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Whos Really Fucking Up The World? * 3
    #23847025 - 11/18/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Lately I've been talking to a lot of people about the state of our species and our planet that we inhabit and I've noticed a lot of quarreling between people on who the different groups are responsible for dragging our species and our planet into such a bad state.

Some people say its this race or that race, or this religion or that religion, or some people even say its people with a certain sexual identity or sexual orientation.

To me its plainly obvious that the power elite are propagating this quarreling within our society and that currently the tension between different races, religions and sexual natures is really really fucking high. I wouldn't say its the highest its been in human history, but give it time and we may be soon to get there.

In actual fact all of this is really just a blatant plot to allow the citizens of our world who live and operate fully within the public eye to be so confused, upset, angry and hopeless that we make it our priority to battle one another rather than join forces to battle those who wish the greater scheme of civilization ill.

The elite, the people of the 1% do not operate fully operate within the public eye and on top of that what is shown of their lives in the public eye is often through the filter of the mass media which lays a heavy distortion of events and situations into the circumstances of these individuals lives.

Many people do not understand what this is all about and this is not the time or place to explain all of that as I've recently come to the conclusion that for those who are not currently aware at least a little bit it is most likely too late.

To get to the main point of this thread I have identified what I now see to be 3 groups of individuals who are the cancer upon the earth and the people who are pushing the destruction all of freedoms into the fore front of our society.

These groups are as follows:

1. The seriously stupid or ignorant
2. Cowards (people who choose security over freedom)
3. Controllers (people who demand other people submit to their will)

These 3 groups are going to lead to the destruction of our species and our planet if we do not put a stop to them very very fast and swiftly, the problem is I dont believe its truly justified to murder any of these people.

As such it seems we are pretty much fucked as a planet and a species.

Feel free to do what ever you want with this information.

That is all. Have a nice day. :wink:


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23847033 - 11/18/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds about right.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23847049 - 11/18/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I would say what, not who.

Personal property and agriculture. The apple of knowledge

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Humans are mostly just slightly clever beasts reacting to their environments, you can only blame individuals so much for not transcending their base nature.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23847058 - 11/18/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The reason im posting this is because i want to seperate myself from the people who often identify as the alt right even though many of those people have come out recently as supposedly anti-NWO.

Its very clear to me that when these people start talking about how the blacks and the gays and the women are the ones to blame for whats wrong with out world they are not really anti-NWO at all. If anything they are the breed the NWO has been waiting for to finalize its process.

They are the ones who will poor gas on the fire and make the real anti-NWO people like me get swept under the carpet because its obvious people who believe what I do are highly out numbered by this other group im describing.

The ONLY thing that these members of the alt right are in support of that I agree with is the preservation of the founding documents of the United States and the ideals stated therein.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23847061 - 11/18/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Communists


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23847064 - 11/18/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What's wrong with a one world government?

Its never going to happen, but if it did I would bet on it being for the better.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23847067 - 11/18/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Of course you would, commie.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23847072 - 11/18/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Name one government in the world that manages more than 100 million people fairly and successfully and does not have frequent corruption scandals.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23847073 - 11/18/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Communists




Yeah everything was just peachy with civilization 200 years ago



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Of course you would, commie.




I've already got a job lined up with FEMA for when Obama comes back to take your guns


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23847074 - 11/18/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think OP needs to stop reading crazy shit on the internet. I think he needs to stop talking about this kind of thing. I think he doesn't know that people who make too much trouble can just disappear. I think OP should just be happy and not worry about things.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23847077 - 11/18/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

He won't. And I'll shoot you in the butt.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23847080 - 11/18/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Name one government in the world that manages more than 100 million people fairly and successfully and does not have frequent corruption scandals.




Name one that doesn't.

Countries like Sweden who rely heavily on others to do their dirty work, don't count.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: koods]
    #23847081 - 11/18/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think koods needs to watch me disappear and get his cage a lil rattled


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur] * 2
    #23847085 - 11/18/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Get this - I think the NWO has humanity's best interests at stake. :cookiemonster:

Have you ever considered what a united Earth could accomplish? All these NWOs conspiracy meatheads always have that in common - they didn't consider that. People just want to place blame.

I will put it this way, think about what complete benevolence and malevolence means. Too nice is not nice, it's just a pussy and in some cases actually so detrimental that you may as well not align with that morality at all. But, too evil is just what it is. So to be truly benevolent, on a scale of 1-10 you better be a solid 4-5 or you're fucking up. Someone out there, has to try to play god and control society because people are inherently shit flinging assholes that only think of themselves.

But no, someone says "I want to unite this world," of course some dick is going swing on through and tell them they're a communist. God forbid the world stops racing for scientific advancement and weaponization and instead coordinates it's efforts. An economyless society needs a single government, regardless of whether or not some people accept that the world political scene is a fallacy for those who wouldn't understand, and to me - you don't understand.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: larry.fisherman] * 2
    #23847088 - 11/18/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That's bullshit. The facade of benevolence is what they rely on to trick suckers like you.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23847093 - 11/18/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Britain, the US, India, China, Korea.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23847094 - 11/18/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:mindexpanding:


What facade? :lol:

I do hope that's sarcasm.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23847095 - 11/18/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I think koods needs to watch me disappear and get his cage a lil rattled



I don't watch. I am the guy who makes people disappear. I also make you eat an entire GMO meal.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23847096 - 11/18/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Read brave new world or 1984.

In reality brave new world is the one that has a higher chance of coming to fruition because what the NWO knows is its easier to get people to love their slavery than to beat them into it.

Much more people commit suicide in a society that they hate and are forced to submit to than a society that teaches them to love their slavery and as such the "love" society functions much more smoothly.

It was once said "A functioning police state needs no police"

@koods you think im talking out my ass yet you think someones gonna come and make me disappear, i smell a contradiction brother.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23847098 - 11/18/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23847099 - 11/18/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Britain, the US, India, China, Korea.




I meant one that doesn't have frequent corruption scandals
or rather, one that isn't corrupt

All governments I've heard of are corrupt, some of them just hide behind their larger allies and take advantage of the utopian safety they're being temporarily offered


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: koods]
    #23847103 - 11/18/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I think koods needs to watch me disappear and get his cage a lil rattled



I don't watch. I am the guy who makes people disappear. I also make you eat an entire GMO meal.




you may be own of the ones whos makes people disappear on here but not IRL.


silly goose!


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Great Scott] * 1
    #23847104 - 11/18/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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He won't. And I'll shoot you in the butt.




*asshole

don't worry man, you won't get clapped and thrown in the gaol for swearing these days.

Quote:

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Of course you would, commie.



is he a commie if he doesn't ascribe to the communist philosophy? globalism isn't even a communist philosophy...it's an idea, at this point, and perhaps a fringe political movement, or at best, something that entails through the mass markets and infrastructure vastly expanding within the international world stage, growing interdependence in trade economies, and the (albeit failed) attempt at multi-culturalism.

god, why do i even bother. *because...you're an idiot*

thanks.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23847105 - 11/18/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

We might as we'll get started, What's 2 + 2?


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: koods]
    #23847111 - 11/18/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

dude what are you even saying, stop hitting yourself


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23847114 - 11/18/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Conn: the alt right, extreme conservatives, and the tea party have issues with what they see as overbearing authority. Thats why they're anti-NWO. But the thing that gives it its potential for success is the fact that so many people unwittingly feed it.

You and I do too, just by being members of society.


Koods is right in that you shouldn't worry so much about it. Not alot we can do and all you really might do for the time being is upset yourself and make yourself sad and paranoid to live as we must.

It helps to be aware, yes, but you shouldn't focus on it. Focus on you and being awesome :heart:


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    #23847127 - 11/18/16 10:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

oh cookie its been many many years of awareness and research and discussion and expansion.

i began this journey in 11th grade but I've just never shared it with the shroomery because i didnt think the timing was right.

its not just me whos concerned about all this, its many friends of mine who i talk with every day who are ready to come out about all this.

im just playing my role and being me.

if anything ive been in the zone to ask questions or die trying for more than a couple years now so its not really a topic of sadness or paranoia for me like it was when i was first into it.

some people here just seem to think that since i havent talked about it on shroomery before very recently i must have just been introduced to alex jones or david icke or something like that lol.

i gather my information from sources i consider much more credible then those men i just mentioned.

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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23847131 - 11/18/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23847135 - 11/18/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I figured it was dissociative psychosis/paranoia.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: CookieCrumbs] * 4
    #23847136 - 11/18/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

On a serious note. Get some perspective, OP

Things are a lot more egalitarian than they were a century ago when the world truly was run by a few wealthy families and corporations. Even the names that you hear in contemporary NWO conspiracy theories are throw backs to the age before anti-trust and labor laws. The rockefellers and rothchilds just legacy wealth living on a dwindling inheritance.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: koods]
    #23847140 - 11/18/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

people are insisting on the brain drain and the social alienation...when really it's just anomie, compounded with impotence.

but...baby-steps. (foreshadowing!) (after all, we actually only have a single timeline, and people just make this shit up as we go along, so there is a telos to this society of man & woman & children, that needs be meet with our very comprehension of existence.)


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23847143 - 11/18/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Lot of people on that page. I just don't think it's good for ones mental health to focus too much on it. But if you think you can bring some good out of it then more power to you


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: koods]
    #23847153 - 11/18/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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On a serious note. Get some perspective, OP

Things are a lot more egalitarian than they were a century ago when the world truly was run by a few wealthy families and corporations. Even the names that you hear in contemporary NWO conspiracy theories are throw backs to the age before anti-trust and labor laws. The rockefellers and rothchilds just legacy wealth living on a dwindling inheritance.




i +1ed this because its an excellent point, the first you made in the whole thread actually!

while that is indeed the case i was in fact aware of this information already and it really doesnt do much to damage the credibility of any arguments i have so far presented.

also im not the one saying "the nwo doesnt exist but shut up or someone may come knocking in the middle of the night"

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    #23847168 - 11/18/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23848929 - 11/19/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I appreciate very much your generous invitation to be here tonight.

You bear heavy responsibilities these days and an article I read some time ago reminded me of how particularly heavily the burdens of present day events bear upon your profession.

You may remember that in 1851 the New York Herald Tribune under the sponsorship and publishing of Horace Greeley, employed as its London correspondent an obscure journalist by the name of Karl Marx.

We are told that foreign correspondent Marx, stone broke, and with a family ill and undernourished, constantly appealed to Greeley and managing editor Charles Dana for an increase in his munificent salary of $5 per installment, a salary which he and Engels ungratefully labeled as the "lousiest petty bourgeois cheating."

But when all his financial appeals were refused, Marx looked around for other means of livelihood and fame, eventually terminating his relationship with the Tribune and devoting his talents full time to the cause that would bequeath the world the seeds of Leninism, Stalinism, revolution and the cold war.

If only this capitalistic New York newspaper had treated him more kindly; if only Marx had remained a foreign correspondent, history might have been different. And I hope all publishers will bear this lesson in mind the next time they receive a poverty-stricken appeal for a small increase in the expense account from an obscure newspaper man.

    I have selected as the title of my remarks tonight "The President and the Press." Some may suggest that this would be more naturally worded "The President Versus the Press." But those are not my sentiments tonight.

It is true, however, that when a well-known diplomat from another country demanded recently that our State Department repudiate certain newspaper attacks on his colleague it was unnecessary for us to reply that this Administration was not responsible for the press, for the press had already made it clear that it was not responsible for this Administration.

Nevertheless, my purpose here tonight is not to deliver the usual assault on the so-called one party press. On the contrary, in recent months I have rarely heard any complaints about political bias in the press except from a few Republicans. Nor is it my purpose tonight to discuss or defend the televising of Presidential press conferences. I think it is highly beneficial to have some 20,000,000 Americans regularly sit in on these conferences to observe, if I may say so, the incisive, the intelligent and the courteous qualities displayed by your Washington correspondents.

Nor, finally, are these remarks intended to examine the proper degree of privacy which the press should allow to any President and his family.

If in the last few months your White House reporters and photographers have been attending church services with regularity, that has surely done them no harm.

On the other hand, I realize that your staff and wire service photographers may be complaining that they do not enjoy the same green privileges at the local golf courses that they once did.

It is true that my predecessor did not object as I do to pictures of one's golfing skill in action. But neither on the other hand did he ever bean a Secret Service man.

My topic tonight is a more sober one of concern to publishers as well as editors.

I want to talk about our common responsibilities in the face of a common danger. The events of recent weeks may have helped to illuminate that challenge for some; but the dimensions of its threat have loomed large on the horizon for many years. Whatever our hopes may be for the future--for reducing this threat or living with it--there is no escaping either the gravity or the totality of its challenge to our survival and to our security--a challenge that confronts us in unaccustomed ways in every sphere of human activity.

This deadly challenge imposes upon our society two requirements of direct concern both to the press and to the President--two requirements that may seem almost contradictory in tone, but which must be reconciled and fulfilled if we are to meet this national peril. I refer, first, to the need for a far greater public information; and, second, to the need for far greater official secrecy.

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The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.

But I do ask every publisher, every editor, and every newsman in the nation to reexamine his own standards, and to recognize the nature of our country's peril. In time of war, the government and the press have customarily joined in an effort based largely on self-discipline, to prevent unauthorized disclosures to the enemy. In time of "clear and present danger," the courts have held that even the privileged rights of the First Amendment must yield to the public's need for national security.

Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired.

If the press is awaiting a declaration of war before it imposes the self-discipline of combat conditions, then I can only say that no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of "clear and present danger," then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent.

It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

Nevertheless, every democracy recognizes the necessary restraints of national security--and the question remains whether those restraints need to be more strictly observed if we are to oppose this kind of attack as well as outright invasion.

For the facts of the matter are that this nation's foes have openly boasted of acquiring through our newspapers information they would otherwise hire agents to acquire through theft, bribery or espionage; that details of this nation's covert preparations to counter the enemy's covert operations have been available to every newspaper reader, friend and foe alike; that the size, the strength, the location and the nature of our forces and weapons, and our plans and strategy for their use, have all been pinpointed in the press and other news media to a degree sufficient to satisfy any foreign power; and that, in at least in one case, the publication of details concerning a secret mechanism whereby satellites were followed required its alteration at the expense of considerable time and money.

The newspapers which printed these stories were loyal, patriotic, responsible and well-meaning. Had we been engaged in open warfare, they undoubtedly would not have published such items. But in the absence of open warfare, they recognized only the tests of journalism and not the tests of national security. And my question tonight is whether additional tests should not now be adopted.

The question is for you alone to answer. No public official should answer it for you. No governmental plan should impose its restraints against your will. But I would be failing in my duty to the nation, in considering all of the responsibilities that we now bear and all of the means at hand to meet those responsibilities, if I did not commend this problem to your attention, and urge its thoughtful consideration.

On many earlier occasions, I have said--and your newspapers have constantly said--that these are times that appeal to every citizen's sense of sacrifice and self-discipline. They call out to every citizen to weigh his rights and comforts against his obligations to the common good. I cannot now believe that those citizens who serve in the newspaper business consider themselves exempt from that appeal.

I have no intention of establishing a new Office of War Information to govern the flow of news. I am not suggesting any new forms of censorship or any new types of security classifications. I have no easy answer to the dilemma that I have posed, and would not seek to impose it if I had one. But I am asking the members of the newspaper profession and the industry in this country to reexamine their own responsibilities, to consider the degree and the nature of the present danger, and to heed the duty of self-restraint which that danger imposes upon us all.

Every newspaper now asks itself, with respect to every story: "Is it news?" All I suggest is that you add the question: "Is it in the interest of the national security?" And I hope that every group in America--unions and businessmen and public officials at every level-- will ask the same question of their endeavors, and subject their actions to the same exacting tests.

And should the press of America consider and recommend the voluntary assumption of specific new steps or machinery, I can assure you that we will cooperate whole-heartedly with those recommendations.

Perhaps there will be no recommendations. Perhaps there is no answer to the dilemma faced by a free and open society in a cold and secret war. In times of peace, any discussion of this subject, and any action that results, are both painful and without precedent. But this is a time of peace and peril which knows no precedent in history.

II

It is the unprecedented nature of this challenge that also gives rise to your second obligation--an obligation which I share. And that is our obligation to inform and alert the American people--to make certain that they possess all the facts that they need, and understand them as well--the perils, the prospects, the purposes of our program and the choices that we face.

No President should fear public scrutiny of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary. I am not asking your newspapers to support the Administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed.

I not only could not stifle controversy among your readers--I welcome it. This Administration intends to be candid about its errors; for as a wise man once said: "An error does not become a mistake until you refuse to correct it." We intend to accept full responsibility for our errors; and we expect you to point them out when we miss them.

Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed--and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. And that is why our press was protected by the First Amendment-- the only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution- -not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and the sentimental, not to simply "give the public what it wants"--but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises and our choices, to lead, mold, educate and sometimes even anger public opinion.

This means greater coverage and analysis of international news--for it is no longer far away and foreign but close at hand and local. It means greater attention to improved understanding of the news as well as improved transmission. And it means, finally, that government at all levels, must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information outside the narrowest limits of national security--and we intend to do it.

III

It was early in the Seventeenth Century that Francis Bacon remarked on three recent inventions already transforming the world: the compass, gunpowder and the printing press. Now the links between the nations first forged by the compass have made us all citizens of the world, the hopes and threats of one becoming the hopes and threats of us all. In that one world's efforts to live together, the evolution of gunpowder to its ultimate limit has warned mankind of the terrible consequences of failure.

And so it is to the printing press--to the recorder of man's deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news--that we look for strength and assistance, confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be: free and independent.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur] * 3
    #23848965 - 11/19/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

well god damn, did you switch from opiates to speed? That's a lot to take in! (that's what she said)


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #23848973 - 11/19/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Last post is the speech that got jfk killed for those who dont have the time to read heres jfk reading it aloud



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    #23848976 - 11/19/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

WOW, I knew he was onto something, the murder proved it and at the same time "buried" it. :mad2::sad:


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #23848984 - 11/19/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

ding ding we got a winner, lets see what koods says bout this one


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur] * 1
    #23849011 - 11/19/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The fuck-up that is the world is of course contributed to by many people and ideologies. States under all sorts of labels, from fascist to democratic to communist to capitalist have contributed, various industries, various belief systems, but in my view the CURRENT danger is posed by a tiny fraction (far less than 1%) I tend to call the corporate oligarchy, individuals of absurd wealth and influence, and more than the individuals themselves even, the corporations they own and/or work for, which are out of control and likely to stay that way

many governments operate in the interests of these oligarchs, and are even run by members of this class (Trump, Clinton, Obama, Bush, all the same shit with a different mask)

compared to that Jihadists, dangerous as they are, wannabe yuppie communists, vegans and all the other groups we like to hate on amount to very little. They are distractions nothing more.


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    #23849149 - 11/19/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

i would say greed is what's driving our problems. people want it all for themselves. and when you want it all, losing even a little of what you think you're entitled to is a total loss. for some it's money, for others it's a society all to themselves, free of other cultures, other mindsets, other ways of living.

if we just stopped wanting it all, we could have everything we need. nobody even needs to change their mind about anything beyond that.


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    #23849262 - 11/19/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
because people are inherently shit flinging assholes that only think of themselves...




Clearly then the solution is to give complete control over the entire world to people.

:cookiemonster:


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    #23849275 - 11/19/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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i would say greed is what's driving our problems. people want it all for themselves. and when you want it all, losing even a little of what you think you're entitled to is a total loss. for some it's money, for others it's a society all to themselves, free of other cultures, other mindsets, other ways of living.

if we just stopped wanting it all, we could have everything we need. nobody even needs to change their mind about anything beyond that.



I have always said that corporate greed (any greed) is killing the world. It's like this: "you can make 2 billion and everyone will share in it as well".

answer: "well it is my right as a corporation to make 5 billion and fuck everyone else, let them get theirs".

"But you get 2 billion"!!! WTF is wrong?!?"

answer: "it is my right as a corporation (or whatever the fuck megalomaniacal business) and american to make that 5 billion and fuck everyone else!"

:sad::mad2::scat:


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: millzy]
    #23849452 - 11/19/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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i would say greed is what's driving our problems. people want it all for themselves. and when you want it all, losing even a little of what you think you're entitled to is a total loss. for some it's money, for others it's a society all to themselves, free of other cultures, other mindsets, other ways of living.

if we just stopped wanting it all, we could have everything we need. nobody even needs to change their mind about anything beyond that.




exactly, the greedy


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23849460 - 11/19/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Whos Really Fucking Up The World?





you are with all your crazy talk and UFO crap


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    #23849468 - 11/19/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

great argument pris its strong as steel (beams :wink:)

how bout answering my questions instead of avoiding em bud?

guess if you disagree with my OP you dont think the 3 groups i named are the true ones fucking up the world, so who is?

trolls?


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    #23849480 - 11/19/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Connoisseur said:
Whos Really Fucking Up The World?





you are with all your crazy talk and UFO crap






One day perhaps you will realize that we are all living in a UFO


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    #23849483 - 11/19/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Connoisseur said:
Whos Really Fucking Up The World?





you are with all your crazy talk and UFO crap





One day perhaps you will realize that we are all living in a UFO





but we've identified it, so I'd say now its an IFO


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23849490 - 11/19/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

people like pris arent identified cause they cant even truly find themselves


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23849492 - 11/19/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

We havent identified it in terms of knowing how it works and where it came from


If seeing is identifying it..then yeah we identified it


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    #23849494 - 11/19/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

babs


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    #23849495 - 11/19/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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people like pris arent identified cause they cant even truly find themselves





Yeah..the universal Gaia doesnt show itself to government shills


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #23849503 - 11/19/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Connoisseur said:
Whos Really Fucking Up The World?





you are with all your crazy talk and UFO crap






One day perhaps you will realize that we are all living in a UFO





I've pretty well defined this one, I like to call it earth, it's a planet, not just
any planet, it's a class M planet, that means it has an atmosphere that is
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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur] * 2
    #23849509 - 11/19/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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great argument pris its strong as steel (beams :wink:)

how bout answering my questions instead of avoiding em bud?

guess if you disagree with my OP you dont think the 3 groups i named are the true ones fucking up the world, so who is?

trolls?





it was a joke little fella, dont get your panties in a twist. I dont really believe
you're destroying anything other than the conspiracy theories you talk about


and probably some brain cells


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    #23849518 - 11/19/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

classic line about panties, you and koods are really good at this place


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    #23849521 - 11/19/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

that was a joke also

this aint rocket doctoring


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    #23849526 - 11/19/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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this aint rocket doctoring




stuff like this is why I can't dislike you lol


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    #23849537 - 11/19/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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that was a joke also

this aint rocket doctoring




hence why i called it classic, the joke part was silent


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    #23849550 - 11/19/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Whos Really Fucking Up The World?




The Jews probably...


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    #23849564 - 11/19/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

OP, you posed the question :
Whose really fucking up the world ...

You stated :
These groups are as follows:
1. The seriously stupid or ignorant


You could have stopped there. Let me demonstrate...

You further stated :
2. Cowards (people who choose security over freedom)
3. Controllers (people who demand other people submit to their will)


2:
Isn't 2 a result of 1? If you're not free, what is life?
What are you securing without freedom? A right to be a slave? Essentially, you're securing nothing. Who typically threatens another's security unprovoked? An ignorant or stupid person...

3:
Controllers rise and are sustained by the stupid/ignorant. You see, were right back to #1.
You can only be controlled if you allow someone to control you. Your free-will is the one thing that is yours. Ignorance/stupidity thus causes you to give up something so valuable.


Did hitler personally walk into the chambers and gas the jews or did stupid/ignorant people do it for him? What were they in search of? #2 ... What life were they preserving? A life sustained by gassing people to death. See the idiocy/stupidity. Traded the most valuable thing in life in order to be the stewards of 'hell on earth'.

Are 'controllers' causing morons to roam the country acting like savages causing chaos/violence? No, they're enabling and amplifying stupid/ignorant people's desire to do so.

Whose really fucking up the world? The stupid/ignorant/mis-informed. We all are to some degree. Ignorance seems to be a universal condition. We are all victims of illusion.

Some are willfully ignorant and thus are puppets/pawns who are doomed.
Some admit to their ignorance and thus have the opportunity to journey to grow, be alive, free, and overcome it.

People who are truly ignorant are not aware of their ignorance - not being aware that one does not know is a defining quality of ignorance.

Ignorance is the root of suffering.
Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism, Christian .. you name it agree on this.

Man's eyes were open into limited range of understanding.
The world's a fucked up place due to it.
Challenge yourself by trying to refute this time tested truth.

The truths of this world are simple and last the test of time...


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    #23849572 - 11/19/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Even though group 1 is doing the most damage all 3 groups play unique key rolls


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    #23849586 - 11/19/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Whos Really Fucking Up The World?




The Jews probably...



:dumbass:








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    #23849599 - 11/19/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

supernatural evil
human evil
human ignorance, error and apathy
corporations
bankers
capitalism
secret societies

a few possible causes


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    #23849636 - 11/19/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Even though group 1 is doing the most damage all 3 groups play unique key rolls



They're one and the same.

1. The seriously stupid or ignorant
end up being :
2. Cowards (people who choose security over freedom)
3. Controllers (people who demand other people submit to their will)

2 necessitates and supports 3.
3 cannot exist independent of 2. 3 is a form of 2.
1 is the root.

There's something to be said about not seeing the link between the three.
Suffering as it were.


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    #23849733 - 11/19/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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babs



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Whos Really Fucking Up The World?




The Jews probably...



:dumbass:





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    #23850765 - 11/20/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

nonbelievers behold



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Cowb0yNeal00 said:
babs



Sup, loverboy :wink:



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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #23850785 - 11/20/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)









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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23851809 - 11/20/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Whos Really Fucking Up The World?





you are with all your crazy talk and UFO crap






One day perhaps you will realize that we are all living in a UFO





I've pretty well defined this one, I like to call it earth, it's a planet, not just
any planet, it's a class M planet, that means it has an atmosphere that is
capable of supporting life as we know it. that makes it pretty special





Im not talking about planet earth.

You havent legitimately broken through on DMT or else you would know that the Transcendental Object at the end of time is the UFO within the planet within the mind.

It is part mind, part syntax and part machine.

It resembles the Millennium Falcon but its solid gold and in the form of a hologram. Its about the size of a dinner plate.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23851819 - 11/20/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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that was a joke also

this aint rocket doctoring




hence why i called it classic, the joke part was silent





this has been a running joke

you aint the sharpest bulb in the box are ya


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #23851836 - 11/20/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)







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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #23851839 - 11/20/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
you are with all your crazy talk and UFO crap






One day perhaps you will realize that we are all living in a UFO





I've pretty well defined this one, I like to call it earth, it's a planet, not just
any planet, it's a class M planet, that means it has an atmosphere that is
capable of supporting life as we know it. that makes it pretty special





Im not talking about planet earth.

You havent legitimately broken through on DMT or else you would know that the Transcendental Object at the end of time is the UFO within the planet within the mind.

It is part mind, part syntax and part machine.

It resembles the Millennium Falcon but its solid gold and in the form of a hologram. Its about the size of a dinner plate.





oh... so I need to be on drugs to be aware of the solid gold holographic millennium falcon


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: phio] * 6
    #23851855 - 11/20/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Personally I blame plants for fucking up the world. For millions of years now they've been stringing along animals with their easy sugar sources and nutrients and getting us to do all the dirty work building a carbon rich atmosphere for when they are ready to really take over. Sugar is just addictive enough to allow plants to enslave the very animals they've bred for the job - insects and land animals. They literally put the carrot on the stick to force out of the ocean so we could eventually do their bidding. The fungus is in on it too, it too benefits from a world rich in carbon. It's in kahoots with the plants.

Animals still have control of the ocean, but not for long. Humans are doing the dirty work lowering the PH of the ocean and throwing carbon in the air above, and algea is about to make some moves to secure the ocean for plants far into the future.

I say we rise up against the plants, for freedom.


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23851856 - 11/20/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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oh... so I need to be on drugs to be aware of the solid gold holographic millennium falcon




I also hear that being close to death or dying works...
Or calming your body down to a similar such state
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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23852191 - 11/20/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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that was a joke also

this aint rocket doctoring




hence why i called it classic, the joke part was silent





this has been a running joke

you aint the sharpest bulb in the box are ya




i see wut jew did der


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23853611 - 11/21/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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oh... so I need to be on drugs to be aware of the solid gold holographic millennium falcon




Its not solid because its hologramatic.

And for me? yes you do need to be on what you call "drugs"

and it resembles the millennium falcon..thats it

I get it though...you are a reductionist


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23853646 - 11/21/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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oh... so I need to be on drugs to be aware of the solid gold holographic millennium falcon




Its not solid because its hologramatic.

And for me? yes you do need to be on what you call "drugs"

and it resembles the millennium falcon..thats it

I get it though...you are a reductionist




that's not what you said


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It resembles the Millennium Falcon but its solid gold and in the form of a hologram. Its about the size of a dinner plate.




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Re: Whos Really Fucking Up The World? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23853676 - 11/21/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I meant that it is completely gold. I didnt mean to convey that it was a solid objext



But ill give you that..thats on me


--------------------
Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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