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Psilosopherr
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There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita
#23846719 - 11/18/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Been more interested in amanitas lately and came across this. Its only a lone entry but it might be worth investigation. I don't know much about the active compounds in amanitas
The link
Any other oddball ingestion methods come to mind? I kinda wanna try smoking psilocybes one day just to see if it really works. Please do not start the psilocybin/heat/flame debate, I really don't care to hear it AGAIN.
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23846755 - 11/18/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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gotta try this myself at some point
because it was smoked with marijuana, it confounds the experiement quite a bit, the volume required orally is very high, probably around a gram for minimal effects.
idk man, smoking mushies doesent work because the psilocybin isnt freebase. i have smoked freebase 4-ho-dmt and it fuckin WORKS
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Psilosopherr
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: czech]
#23846784 - 11/18/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah I had that thought too, especially since he just thought it accentuated his bud high. Might've had zero effects from the amanita itself.
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23846831 - 11/18/16 09:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: Been more interested in amanitas lately and came across this. Its only a lone entry but it might be worth investigation. I don't know much about the active compounds in amanitas
The link
Any other oddball ingestion methods come to mind? I kinda wanna try smoking psilocybes one day just to see if it really works. Please do not start the psilocybin/heat/flame debate, I really don't care to hear it AGAIN.
Do you not care to hear it again because it's a legitimate argument? Lol.
It is suggested, with controversy I may add, that you cook, (decarb) the reddish skin of the cap at around 200F to turn Ibotenic acid into Muscimole, until it is cracker/chip dry. You can then smoke the skin of the mushroom which is the only way I've seen smoking as the ROA. I've never heard of people smoking the meat of the mushroom itself. Amanitas vary hugely in potency from mushroom to mushroom even when picked from the same patch. This alkaloid muscimole will not decay at nearly as low of a temp as psilocybin. Just because they're both mushrooms doesn't mean they have anything more than that in common in respects to degradation when torching them.
Smoking P.strains has worked for some in the past but even they said it wasn't worth it anywhere I've read an account. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD lol.
Might try smoking some amanita concentrate both with and without a little weed for my first couple times since I know where to get it now. Been meaning to try good ol' Fly Agaric for a couple years but my dried container of the ones I hunted got wet when I moved. Also that has to be the shortest Erowid report I've ever seen.
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: czech]
#23846839 - 11/18/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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czech said: idk man, smoking mushies doesent work because the psilocybin isnt freebase. i have smoked freebase 4-ho-dmt and it fuckin WORKS
Fuck that sounds like a ride hahaha
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Psilosopherr
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23846877 - 11/18/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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stow the attitude, lets just talk about the topic at hand.
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23846909 - 11/18/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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AstralAndrew said:
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rbalzer said: Been more interested in amanitas lately and came across this. Its only a lone entry but it might be worth investigation. I don't know much about the active compounds in amanitas
The link
Any other oddball ingestion methods come to mind? I kinda wanna try smoking psilocybes one day just to see if it really works. Please do not start the psilocybin/heat/flame debate, I really don't care to hear it AGAIN.
Do you not care to hear it again because it's a legitimate argument? Lol.
It is suggested, with controversy I may add, that you cook, (decarb) the reddish skin of the cap at around 200F to turn Ibotenic acid into Muscimole, until it is cracker/chip dry. You can then smoke the skin of the mushroom which is the only way I've seen smoking as the ROA. I've never heard of people smoking the meat of the mushroom itself. Amanitas vary hugely in potency from mushroom to mushroom even when picked from the same patch. This alkaloid muscimole will not decay at nearly as low of a temp as psilocybin. Just because they're both mushrooms doesn't mean they have anything more than that in common in respects to degradation when torching them.
Smoking P.strains has worked for some in the past but even they said it wasn't worth it anywhere I've read an account. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD lol.
Might try smoking some amanita concentrate both with and without a little weed for my first couple times since I know where to get it now. Been meaning to try good ol' Fly Agaric for a couple years but my dried container of the ones I hunted got wet when I moved. Also that has to be the shortest Erowid report I've ever seen.
I think you selectively read what I wrote. Not as much attitude as you know, science.
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23846920 - 11/18/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah no everything after the first line was quality. And I go so far as to wonder where you heard/read the second paragraph, because I'm brand new to this notion.
Admittedly I'm extra irritable today, got a cold
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23846956 - 11/18/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: yeah no everything after the first line was quality. And I go so far as to wonder where you heard/read the second paragraph, because I'm brand new to this notion.
Admittedly I'm extra irritable today, got a cold 
Smoking P.Strains or decarbing? And all good bruh, that's fair
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23847018 - 11/18/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Edited by ChemicalSpark (03/23/20 09:04 PM)
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: ChemicalSpark]
#23847196 - 11/18/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It actually isn't that uncommon as an ROA with dried amanita skin. Skip to the end of this video.
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23847466 - 11/19/16 03:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Concerning Amanitas, you get high from smoking not only the dried skin but also the entire fruitbody. I use only the caps though.
You need very little. Just put little powder into your joint / bowl to get a taste. It is psychoactive when smoked! But the effects aren't nearly as powerful as compared to eating the mushrooms. I don't think you can overdose via smoking, you need only 1/20th of the material.
Smoking Amanitas activates salivation as a well known byproduct. So it killes any dry cottonmouth from marihuana or ingested nighthades.
When you make an extract, like the first one in my signature, you need to smoke only a fingertip of powder for strong effects.
//edit: Here are a few more experiences with smoked amanitas. Don't know if any of them is helpful, though.
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Edited by Pandemoon (11/19/16 03:22 AM)
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Psilosopherr
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: Pandemoon]
#23847623 - 11/19/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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as hoping you'd chime in pandemoon, thanks
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23847716 - 11/19/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dont bother OP
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#23847738 - 11/19/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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por que no?
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23856463 - 11/22/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ok well I've smoked cubes and they tasted nasty and only got a little stoning effects. .5g in a dry bong. had to clean my bong out ugh just eat them. RAOs wonder anyone boof the extract.
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Re: There's an erowid entry about smoking amanita [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23856918 - 11/22/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: por que no?
Si, por que no?
I smoke a. muscaria as my most common route of ingestion these days. It is much safer done that way. There is no nausea and a lower risk of bad trip and overdose. I highly recommend it.
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