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4-Aco-DMT
    #23846647 - 11/18/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

So just heard about 4-Aco-DMT. Basically a legal research chemical that is supposed to mimic the effect of magic mushrooms. Has anyone had experience with this at all/ could you give me an idea of the effects? Can't believe this is the first i've heard of it.


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: magicmushroomman]
    #23846659 - 11/18/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Never knew it was unscheduled...how interesting I find that

obviously check out its erowid page if you haven't yet


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23846691 - 11/18/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
Never knew it was unscheduled...how interesting I find that

obviously check out its erowid page if you haven't yet



It's kind of in the grey area. Technically it could fall into the federal analogue act but it doesn't specifically seem to.


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23846847 - 11/18/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

its unscheduled but is the lower homologue of psilocbin, so it might be considered an analogue.

with that said, it is a prodrug for psilocin, and, at least to me, it is nearly identical to psilocybin.  i find its best utility as a 'booster' i.e. take a pea like 2ce or mescaline, then on the peak do 20mg of 4-aco-dmt, and it fucking destroys you. i love this head and body fuck because 4-aco-dmt has little adrenaline action--but lots of dopamine and serotonin agonism.  the hardest part is the first 30 minutes because it hits you hard and fast.


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23846959 - 11/18/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've taken several doses of 4aco DMT, I have a trip report in my sig. It's definitely in my top 5.

I didn't know about combining it with a pea I will have to try that with much smaller doses of course


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: magicmushroomman]
    #23847047 - 11/18/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've probably eaten 3-4g of this stuff, it's a fucking phenomenal chem. It is not exactly shrooms(for me) but for intents and purposes it's the same. In fact it's an identical twin, but even though identical twins shared a womb, might look alike and such, they are their own individual.

Prodrug activity, based on reports and the general knowledge that pharmacology varies from person to person, is likely very hit and miss. 4aco dmt is likely active on it's own and I believe that is the case. If you think of it in conversion terms based on the pharmacology, different individuals are going to get differing ratios of the active chemicals.

Now, the first thing I would say is that aside from ald52 this is the single most benign feeling RC I've tried. That is a big deal to me. The come up can be anxious but I find that remedied by a walk, or some weed/booze. Once I get past the come up I'm met with giddy euphoria among all the multi-layered visuals. Things bend and split and shift. Everything about the visuals screams mushrooms for me. Closed eye, open eye - this stuff is strong. If you can't hold onto your nuts then take it easy to begin with. I generally take 80-100mg of the stuff but tbh I wouldn't ever give anyone more than 35-40. It is a strong chemical. Get a scale.


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23847205 - 11/18/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

"4-aco-dmt is like psilocins retarded cousin who smokes salvia under the stairs."

It's a bit darker than psilocin/psilocybin IMO and has a bit more intense visuals, darker in color.


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: impaired420]
    #23847224 - 11/18/16 11:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That has not been my experience. I actually find it to be slightly 'lighter' in mindset. Colours just as bright, same intensity in visuals. :shrug:


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: impaired420]
    #23847226 - 11/18/16 11:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

i often prefer 4-aco to mushrooms


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: SleepyE]
    #23847291 - 11/19/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I feel it is very similar to shrooms, besides the fact that ones a powder and ones a mushroom I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference.  Like others have said get a scale, volume is a poor indicator of mass as I unfortunately found out before I had a scale.


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: TunggyRunggy]
    #23847351 - 11/19/16 01:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My favorite . My lovely 4acodmt. Beautiful melting cartoons. Waves of colors. Dripping pastel vibes. Melting faces. Feeling colors. Demons and skulls...relax breathe.. flow w the waves. Faces w fangs. Skin dripping off exposed skeleton. Breathe. It's all historical. Youre in control. Laugh at it. Transform into bliss. All is good. It's passed. Enjoy the euphoria dripping from your pupils. Evil turned to bliss...

My lovely 4acodmt


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #23847354 - 11/19/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hi Mantis, I see you. (jp)


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: magicmushroomman]
    #23847456 - 11/19/16 03:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I love it one of my favorites :costanza:


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: Eggtimer] * 1
    #23847729 - 11/19/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

4-acO-DMT is my homies


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23847918 - 11/19/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
its unscheduled but is the lower homologue of psilocbin, so it might be considered an analogue.

with that said, it is a prodrug for psilocin, and, at least to me, it is nearly identical to psilocybin.  i find its best utility as a 'booster' i.e. take a pea like 2ce or mescaline, then on the peak do 20mg of 4-aco-dmt, and it fucking destroys you. i love this head and body fuck because 4-aco-dmt has little adrenaline action--but lots of dopamine and serotonin agonism.  the hardest part is the first 30 minutes because it hits you hard and fast.




Do you have a reference for the dopamine agonism? I did not think this was true, I thought it was a pure 5ht agonist.


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: krypto2000]
    #23847997 - 11/19/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

4-Aco-DMT is much different than Mushrooms, but at the same time similar as it's still a DMT compound. ACO-DMT is more so closely related to oral DMT, or smoked DMT in slight sense and is also more-so heavily sedating.

1. Mushrooms are mainly Psilocybin with very low Psilocin contents

2. 4-Aco-DMT is pure hydroxy N,N-Dimethyltryptamine with an Acetoxy group on it(4-Acetoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine)

3. Mushrooms(Psilocybin) have to cleave the phosphoryl ester group in your liver for it to turn into Psilocin(4-Hydroxy-DMT) to produce the "peak"

4. 4-Aco-DMT is active on its own and does not have to convert through your liver before it becomes active in the BBB(blood brain barrier)through direct breakdown in the body through deacetlyation it's like ingesting pure oral DMT(which can't be found in nature - and is also why the experience is different and usually more intense) the only difference is an Acetoxy group in the place of a Hydroxy - and well that changes a lot of things

5. In my personal experiences, Aco-DMT is much more related to oral DMT - visionary, deep, and more transcendental than mushrooms. There is also no come up, come down or waves, it's very fast to the peak, and it only peaks, then it fades.

6. Synthetic 4-HO-DMT is much more manic, and chaotic than 4-ACO-DMT, the Acetoxy group provides for activity in the BBB as well as metabolizing it differently

7. I found the best way to dose is in increments of 5 minutes to reduce anxiety on come up and nausea. This one hits me with a flight or fight anxiety like no other, and crippling nausea in some.

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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23848335 - 11/19/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I love super-high doses of 4-Aco-DMT. So far it's the best Psychedelic I've tried for going into super-deep visionary states. I usually just take a whole 80-120mg and hold on tight for the first 30 minutes in, then I'm in another world. :thumbup:

Similar to mushrooms. But somewhat different.

The legality thing is iffy. I definitely think you could get in trouble with it if caught since it's a prodrug of psilocin. But I don't know for sure honestly.


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23848453 - 11/19/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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6. Synthetic 4-HO-DMT is much more manic, and chaotic than 4-ACO-DMT, the Acetoxy group provides for activity in the BBB as well as metabolizing it differently.




I actually agree with this, having had access to both.

4-aco has the bonus feature of being typically more pure, but the 4-ho-dmt is much more potent, being broken down through natural pathways that have developed; especially if you are a shroom user.

The 4 aco dmt is a bit demented honestly, it's really cool and powerful but it's had some demented tint to it before.


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: czech]
    #23848736 - 11/19/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

4-ACO-DMT is great
When you order it online it comes in a baggie with a sticker that says not for human consumption 
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If you're going to order it I highly, highly suggest picking up 4-HO-MET and 4-ACO-MET as well:awesomenod:
It's the ultimate psychedelic
In fact I think I'm going to go get some right now it's been too long!


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Re: 4-Aco-DMT [Re: magicmushroomman]
    #23848922 - 11/19/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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magicmushroomman said:
So just heard about 4-Aco-DMT. Basically a legal research chemical that is supposed to mimic the effect of magic mushrooms. Has anyone had experience with this at all/ could you give me an idea of the effects? Can't believe this is the first i've heard of it.




A lot of people like it, I only tried it once but it was uninteresting and miserable enough that I didn't go back despite having several doses worth sitting around. I took about 25mg, had no visuals just consistent anxiety for 8 hrs plus nausea :shrug: could be just bad luck

conversely, I LOVE LOVE LOVE 4-aco-MET, which is I think still legal and accessible. 4-aco-dmt may well have it's merrits overlooked by me, but MET is wonderful. Like a halfway point between LSD and shrooms, for me, with the duration of shrooms. Incredible visuals on it, even at lower doses, seeing far away neon landscapes and beings and fractal patterns with closed eyes at the 20mg dose. 40mg and it gets more intense and closer to the introspective/spiritual vibe of strong mushroom trips imo

Formulate your own opinion of course, and by no means write off 4-aco-DMT on my account, but consider 4-aco-MET as well as it's a wonderful (my favorite) substance


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