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Kenetic
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Mad Season]
#23855092 - 11/21/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've only ever used soap and water. works great!
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tombosley8
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Kenetic]
#23855150 - 11/21/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: Lol have started going to soap and water.. that shit's been around for years actually. Bleach/iso/Clorox/Lysol/sanitizers are completely useless. I haven't used any of them for a good year+ now.

Was just about to try out my new sab and wondering if you guys thought the single rectangular hole would be good enough>
sounds a lot more convenient:
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bodhisatta said: One big rectangular hole for both hands
I just made a LARGE SAB and I was thinking or just cutting out the whole rectangle of plastic where I had planned on making two six inch holes...
How large of a rectangle are you taking about?
If I were to do it it would be about a 2'x7" hole. Seemed like that would be too big thus making the air not so still in the box...
What do you think?
And yeah for storing plates or what not I guess covering the holes in the sab would lower dust and sporeload but I don't think it would make much of a difference when your wiping evey plate anyway.
Does sound like a great way to keep prints cleaner. Could be just what I was looking for to make some prints that have more mushroom spores than mold spores...
Edited by tombosley8 (11/21/16 07:07 PM)
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Kenetic
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: tombosley8]
#23855158 - 11/21/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like mine
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tombosley8
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Kenetic]
#23855716 - 11/21/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like mine.
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Spore Ninja
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Munchauzen]
#23857575 - 11/22/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: I fail to see the relevance. The only ones that matter are the ones that make it on to your plates and nobody will ever know where they originated from. If a plate contaminates it's not gonna hold up a sign that says "I came from outside your sab!"
The only advice I have for you is to follow the basic SAB tek and use smooth motions when working. And maybe cut back on the ISO before you blow your place up 
I think the origin of the contams is very relevant to the discussion.
(I posted a thread years ago about a fire in my glovebox as a warning to others. I've since learned to embrace bleach and clorox wipes now when needed- and no flames inside the SAB. It seems a lot of folks are now changing to soapy water in the SAB, so I'm looking into that as well. But it seems like it would make everything extremely slippery...)
you don't understand how a still air box works, at all.
please, read this
Basic Principals of the SGFC
I don't know how many times I have to say it, but its a still air box not a sanitary air box. bleach and clorox are a waste.
I'm hiding your thread and won't be revisiting this because it seems my posts go in one of your ears and out the other. 
With all due respect- what am I supposed to gain from a 7 page thread on shotgun fruiting chambers?? I thought we were talking about SAB's??
You use alcohol soaked paper towels (AFAIK)in your SAB videos...so why would it be different if I'm using alcohol? I'm afraid your answers aren't very clear. But thanks for trying.
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Mad Season]
#23857627 - 11/22/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: Lol have started going to soap and water.. that shit's been around for years actually. Bleach/iso/Clorox/Lysol/sanitizers are completely useless. I haven't used any of them for a good year+ now.
I tend to be resistant to change, but if I see a better / simpler technique, I'm open to it.
In your prep video here https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21889950/fpart/1/vc/1 I have a few questions: What did you spray into the air before your flipped the box over? Did you wipe down the small tubs with alcohol or any other cleaners/sanitizers - or were they straight out of the PC??
(not sure about taping my sleeves though - and half the people I see are working without gloves.)
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Kenetic]
#23857633 - 11/22/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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kenetic said: I've only ever used soap and water. works great!
Are you wiping or cleaning your plates/jars/minirounds etc with anything?
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Kenetic]
#23857644 - 11/22/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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kenetic said: I like mine

Simple and efficient. 
I could stand to improve my lighting though- are those your lights on the top?
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: tombosley8]
#23857657 - 11/22/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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tombosley8 said: I like mine.

Slick set up! Any lighting from the top?
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spacechildo
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Spore Ninja]
#23857758 - 11/22/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spore Ninja said:
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Munchauzen said:
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Munchauzen said: I fail to see the relevance. The only ones that matter are the ones that make it on to your plates and nobody will ever know where they originated from. If a plate contaminates it's not gonna hold up a sign that says "I came from outside your sab!"
The only advice I have for you is to follow the basic SAB tek and use smooth motions when working. And maybe cut back on the ISO before you blow your place up 
I think the origin of the contams is very relevant to the discussion.
(I posted a thread years ago about a fire in my glovebox as a warning to others. I've since learned to embrace bleach and clorox wipes now when needed- and no flames inside the SAB. It seems a lot of folks are now changing to soapy water in the SAB, so I'm looking into that as well. But it seems like it would make everything extremely slippery...)
you don't understand how a still air box works, at all.
please, read this
Basic Principals of the SGFC
I don't know how many times I have to say it, but its a still air box not a sanitary air box. bleach and clorox are a waste.
I'm hiding your thread and won't be revisiting this because it seems my posts go in one of your ears and out the other. 
With all due respect- what am I supposed to gain from a 7 page thread on shotgun fruiting chambers?? I thought we were talking about SAB's??
You use alcohol soaked paper towels (AFAIK)in your SAB videos...so why would it be different if I'm using alcohol? I'm afraid your answers aren't very clear. But thanks for trying.
first sentence there says "this is a part of my series The basics click "the basics" see 4th link named SAB. ???? success!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: spacechildo]
#23857874 - 11/22/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn spore ninja nice quadruple post lol. I wipe down everything I put in my sab with iso, but that has nothing to do with how I prepare my sab.
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: spacechildo]
#23858065 - 11/22/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
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Spore Ninja said:
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Munchauzen said:
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I think the origin of the contams is very relevant to the discussion.
(I posted a thread years ago about a fire in my glovebox as a warning to others. I've since learned to embrace bleach and clorox wipes now when needed- and no flames inside the SAB. It seems a lot of folks are now changing to soapy water in the SAB, so I'm looking into that as well. But it seems like it would make everything extremely slippery...)
you don't understand how a still air box works, at all.
please, read this
Basic Principals of the SGFC
I don't know how many times I have to say it, but its a still air box not a sanitary air box. bleach and clorox are a waste.
I'm hiding your thread and won't be revisiting this because it seems my posts go in one of your ears and out the other. 
With all due respect- what am I supposed to gain from a 7 page thread on shotgun fruiting chambers?? I thought we were talking about SAB's??
You use alcohol soaked paper towels (AFAIK)in your SAB videos...so why would it be different if I'm using alcohol? I'm afraid your answers aren't very clear. But thanks for trying.
first sentence there says "this is a part of my series The basics click "the basics" see 4th link named SAB. ???? success!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
OK I see what you're saying. The link saying "Basic Principals of the SGFC" is what threw me. It's also damn confusing when everyone links to uncredited videos in their sig lines. I thought I was watching Mad Season's videos when I was reading his thread- that's why I directed those questions at him. So is it Spitball's videos in Mad's thread?
Because it did answer a few questions. He used covers over his arm holes ( that's where I got the idea from see my 2nd post in the thread)
You sterilize the inside of the box, and everything that goes in (AFAIK), then spray soapy water on the walls to trap contams that come in from the outside. But it seems some people are using alcohol inside the SAB and some aren't. My only other real question: is everyone wiping down bowl/plates/etc before they put them in teh box? assu
Anything I'm missing or wrong about?
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Spore Ninja]
#23858086 - 11/22/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spore Ninja said: You sterilize the inside of the box, and everything that goes in (AFAIK), then spray soapy water on the walls to trap contams that come in from the outside. But it seems some people are using alcohol inside the SAB and some aren't. My only other real question: is everyone wiping down bowl/plates/etc before they put them in teh box? assu
Anything I'm missing or wrong about?
you dont sterilize the box you spray soapy water to trap contams to the walls. read the link I posted and you just quoted:
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SpitballJedi said: This is part of my series "The Basics"
The most important thing about a SAB is still air. If the air is still, then it can't blow contaminants in to your work.
A SAB does not need to be sterile, just clean and still.
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: spacechildo]
#23858092 - 11/22/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh and yes, master jars gets wiped with ISO in the SAB. those have been sitting out in the open for weeks and got contam spores on them. between the jar lip/rim and lid is most important to clean.
anything coming right from the PC is sterile enough, you wont get them any more sanitized by wiping with ISO.
laying down iso soaked towels is to get the floor of the sab wet too. I use a moistened towel tho.
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: spacechildo]
#23860718 - 11/23/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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you dont sterilize the box you spray soapy water to trap contams to the walls. read the link I posted and you just quoted
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Then, I clean the walls of the SAB with 70% IPA...
That sounds like sanitizing to me. Are we just differing over sanitize VS. sterilize?
That's what was confusing about munchausen's posts- he'd say one thing, and then link to something that said the opposite...
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Munchauzen]
#23860747 - 11/23/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said:
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Spore Ninja said:
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Munchauzen said: I fail to see the relevance. The only ones that matter are the ones that make it on to your plates and nobody will ever know where they originated from. If a plate contaminates it's not gonna hold up a sign that says "I came from outside your sab!"
The only advice I have for you is to follow the basic SAB tek and use smooth motions when working. And maybe cut back on the ISO before you blow your place up 
I think the origin of the contams is very relevant to the discussion.
(I posted a thread years ago about a fire in my glovebox as a warning to others. I've since learned to embrace bleach and clorox wipes now when needed- and no flames inside the SAB. It seems a lot of folks are now changing to soapy water in the SAB, so I'm looking into that as well. But it seems like it would make everything extremely slippery...)
you don't understand how a still air box works, at all.
please, read this
Basic Principals of the SGFC
I don't know how many times I have to say it, but its a still air box not a sanitary air box. bleach and clorox are a waste.
I'm hiding your thread and won't be revisiting this because it seems my posts go in one of your ears and out the other. 
It's a sanitary, still air box. The box is sanitary, not the air. That's according to the thread you posted. Not sure what your issue was. Too bad you left in a huff.
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: spacechildo]
#23860790 - 11/23/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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the box does not need to be sanitary you dont need to use ISO/IPA like we all in this thread have been telling you, use soapy water.
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SpitballJedi said: This is part of my series "The Basics"
The most important thing about a SAB is still air. If the air is still, then it can't blow contaminants in to your work.
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