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Kenetic
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Kenetic] 1
#23848513 - 11/19/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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All right free speech, allow me to speak freely That's actually not what I'm talking about. Who said anything about a glove box? Don't jump into an argument and make a fool out of yourself when you don't even know what we are talking about. I think I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing.
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kenetic said: I use my Sab about three days out of the week. I tend to leave my Petris in the Sab when I'm not doing work in my Sab. So I cover up the holes. Still don't get why this is a bad idea? Obviously if the Sab was empty I wouldn't bother.
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Edited by Kenetic (11/19/16 01:21 PM)
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filthyknees
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: freespeech]
#23848599 - 11/19/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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When taking prints leaving the caps in the sab for 48 hours for spores to drop, then another 24 hours for the prints to dry. Unless you turn the air off in the house for those days and open doors to the work room very slowly entering and exiting, how would placing something over the armholes hurt the process, realistically, no ones going to keep their a/c off for days to take prints.
If you put something over the armholes its sealed and you can actually use your a/c, and not leave your air off for days in winter. I would rather use my a/c AND take prints, I use the 66qt lid, op uses cling wrap, works fine.
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Kenetic
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: filthyknees]
#23848808 - 11/19/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Exactly.
Also, I think all of us were each talking about different things, hence the confusion.
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mrmazdarx9
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Kenetic]
#23848822 - 11/19/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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As long as it aint hurting anything do what ever helps you sleep at night seal it up, dont who cares.
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Kenetic]
#23848852 - 11/19/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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kenetic said: All right free speech, allow me to speak freely That's actually not what I'm talking about. Who said anything about a glove box? Don't jump into an argument and make a fool out of yourself when you don't even know what we are talking about. I think I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing.
You're right, I didn't read what this thread was actually about. I seal off my SAB with a tyvek sheet and tape when I'm keeping it closed.
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Inocuole
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: freespeech]
#23849437 - 11/19/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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freespeech said:
You're right, I didn't read what this thread was actually about. I seal off my SAB with a tyvek sheet and tape when I'm keeping it closed.
BUT WHY??
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mrmazdarx9
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Inocuole]
#23849461 - 11/19/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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You're right, I didn't read what this thread was actually about. I seal off my SAB with a tyvek sheet and tape when I'm keeping it closed.
BUT WHY??
Thats what I dont get, not saying its wrong just dont see the benefit
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23849478 - 11/19/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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One big rectangular hole for both hands
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freespeech
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: bodhisatta]
#23849875 - 11/19/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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My SAB has two round coffee can sized armholes. Pretty much the only time I close it off with tyvek is after pouring petris. I don't know if it helps with contamination but it makes me feel better and my contamination rate is low. I realize this is also a little different than the use case OP presented (incubation vs. letting poured but unsealed petris sit after pouring) but I already dug myself into a hole by commenting inappropriately in this thread, so there you go, that's 
So after actually reading the thread it looks like I do basically the same thing as the dude who called me out, for the same reason of "it makes me feel better."
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tombosley8
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: bodhisatta]
#23850044 - 11/19/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: One big rectangular hole for both hands
I just made a LARGE SAB and I was thinking or just cutting out the whole rectangle of plastic where I had planned on making two six inch holes...
How large of a rectangle are you taking about?
If I were to do it it would be about a 2'x7" hole. Seemed like that would be too big thus making the air not so still in the box...
What do you think?
And yeah for storing plates or what not I guess covering the holes in the sab would lower dust and sporeload but I don't think it would make much of a difference when your wiping evey plate anyway.
Does sound like a great way to keep prints cleaner. Could be just what I was looking for to make some prints that have more mushroom spores than mold spores...
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Edited by tombosley8 (11/19/16 10:22 PM)
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Spore Ninja
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: bodhisatta]
#23854220 - 11/21/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
 I store mine on guitar cases
Those don't look too good bro... but if it would help you out...I could give you like $5 for 'em...
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Spore Ninja
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: bodhisatta]
#23854233 - 11/21/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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kenetic said: There's nothing wrong with covering your arm holes, and if there is I'd love to hear a reason that makes sense. I can think of more reasons to cover the holes than not to. Unless, I mean you are completely going out of your way to do it.
More air movement than if you had not. I think it's more detrimental than effective it you're trying to use it as a SAB
To help clarify the discussion... which is more of a threat:
Contams already present inside a SAB or Contams that get pushed into a clean SAB from the outside?
Trying to keep thing clean/sanitized when you're a bit OCD is...challenging at times.
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Munchauzen


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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Spore Ninja]
#23854258 - 11/21/16 01:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spore Ninja said:
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bodhisatta said:
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kenetic said: There's nothing wrong with covering your arm holes, and if there is I'd love to hear a reason that makes sense. I can think of more reasons to cover the holes than not to. Unless, I mean you are completely going out of your way to do it.
More air movement than if you had not. I think it's more detrimental than effective it you're trying to use it as a SAB
To help clarify the discussion... which is more of a threat:
Contams already present inside a SAB or Contams that get pushed into a clean SAB from the outside?
Trying to keep thing clean/sanitized when you're a bit OCD is...challenging at times. 
It's a "still air box" not a sanitary air box. Trying to keep it clean is frivolous and is a result of not understanding of how it works. The wet walls trap contaminates.
A SAB does not work by means of being sanitary. It works by trapping contaminates out of the air.
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Spore Ninja
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: mrmazdarx9] 1
#23854261 - 11/21/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said:
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Inocuole said:
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freespeech said:
You're right, I didn't read what this thread was actually about. I seal off my SAB with a tyvek sheet and tape when I'm keeping it closed.
BUT WHY??
Thats what I dont get, not saying its wrong just dont see the benefit
Because I have 3 dogs, and I like to keep the back door open for fresh air. So in my mind, anything done to ensure a small area stays clean is a benefit.
I sort of picture it as 'zone' or rings around my work area.
My work area/SAB/Flow hood is let's say, 99% clean. The area around my work area is say, 80% clean The room next to my work area is maybe 60% clean.
So anything that reduces the chance of contams helps me sleep better at night. I probably go through 16 ounces of 70% iso when I do clean work....between cleaning counter tops, petrie sleeves, tools, my arms etc...
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Munchauzen]
#23854274 - 11/21/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said:
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Spore Ninja said:
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kenetic said: There's nothing wrong with covering your arm holes, and if there is I'd love to hear a reason that makes sense. I can think of more reasons to cover the holes than not to. Unless, I mean you are completely going out of your way to do it.
More air movement than if you had not. I think it's more detrimental than effective it you're trying to use it as a SAB
To help clarify the discussion... which is more of a threat:
Contams already present inside a SAB or Contams that get pushed into a clean SAB from the outside?
Trying to keep thing clean/sanitized when you're a bit OCD is...challenging at times. 
It's a "still air box" not a sanitary air box. Trying to keep it clean is frivolous and is a result of not understanding of how it works. The wet walls trap contaminates.
Understood...but sometimes we get too hung up on the terms here...it's more about risk reduction for me... Care to take a shot at the question I posed? .
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Spore Ninja] 1
#23854305 - 11/21/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I fail to see the relevance. The only ones that matter are the ones that make it on to your plates and nobody will ever know where they originated from. If a plate contaminates it's not gonna hold up a sign that says "I came from outside your sab!"
The only advice I have for you is to follow the basic SAB tek and use smooth motions when working. And maybe cut back on the ISO before you blow your place up
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Spore Ninja
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Munchauzen]
#23854438 - 11/21/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said: I fail to see the relevance. The only ones that matter are the ones that make it on to your plates and nobody will ever know where they originated from. If a plate contaminates it's not gonna hold up a sign that says "I came from outside your sab!"
The only advice I have for you is to follow the basic SAB tek and use smooth motions when working. And maybe cut back on the ISO before you blow your place up 
I think the origin of the contams is very relevant to the discussion.
(I posted a thread years ago about a fire in my glovebox as a warning to others. I've since learned to embrace bleach and clorox wipes now when needed- and no flames inside the SAB. It seems a lot of folks are now changing to soapy water in the SAB, so I'm looking into that as well. But it seems like it would make everything extremely slippery...)
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mrmazdarx9
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Spore Ninja]
#23854450 - 11/21/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spore Ninja said:
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bodhisatta said:
 I store mine on guitar cases
Those don't look too good bro... but if it would help you out...I could give you like $5 for 'em...
expect a from bod immediately
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Munchauzen


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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Spore Ninja]
#23855040 - 11/21/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spore Ninja said:
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Munchauzen said: I fail to see the relevance. The only ones that matter are the ones that make it on to your plates and nobody will ever know where they originated from. If a plate contaminates it's not gonna hold up a sign that says "I came from outside your sab!"
The only advice I have for you is to follow the basic SAB tek and use smooth motions when working. And maybe cut back on the ISO before you blow your place up 
I think the origin of the contams is very relevant to the discussion.
(I posted a thread years ago about a fire in my glovebox as a warning to others. I've since learned to embrace bleach and clorox wipes now when needed- and no flames inside the SAB. It seems a lot of folks are now changing to soapy water in the SAB, so I'm looking into that as well. But it seems like it would make everything extremely slippery...)
you don't understand how a still air box works, at all.
please, read this
Basic Principals of the SGFC
I don't know how many times I have to say it, but its a still air box not a sanitary air box. bleach and clorox are a waste.
I'm hiding your thread and won't be revisiting this because it seems my posts go in one of your ears and out the other.
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Re: Just used Press'N Seal to seal the arm holes in my SAB [Re: Munchauzen]
#23855048 - 11/21/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol have started going to soap and water.. that shit's been around for years actually. Bleach/iso/Clorox/Lysol/sanitizers are completely useless. I haven't used any of them for a good year+ now.
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