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Re: Islamophobia [Re: Malkuthian]
    #23852649 - 11/20/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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You still don't even know my opinions in this matter. (Of which one is: we should let in a helluva lot fewer immigrants than we currently do, the current situation is something we cannot handle. This does not change how incredibly uniformed the bullshit about the Swedish rape-problem is...)
And you still don't know shit about what you are talking about.




It's not immigrants that is the problem. It's Muslim immigrants. Sweden has benefitted immensely from immigration, especially that of other Scandinavians to Sweden in the 1970s/80s, like my ex-wife's family from Finland.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater and stop all immigration when the problem is clearly with Muslims and not immigrants as a whole.

Unfortunately the Swedish rape problem at the hands of Muslims is a real thing and you would know this if you had spoken about it to Swedish Police and medical workers (as I have), who have given me their honest opinion and not the communist propaganda that you are repeating here.

As for why I am here, I think Sweden is a great country but it is at extreme risk of being fucked up permanently by either Muslims or Sverigedemokraterna, both of whom are terrible, terrible people.

The main problem with Swedes is that you are exceptionally naive, probably on account of not having had a colonial empire of your own. Thus you know very, very little about the psychologies of the different cultures in the world.

I mean to help you before you fuck your country up for good, because I'd like to visit again in the future. I never did get to Sarek, you see.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: viktor]
    #23856813 - 11/22/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, there is a difference between immigrants depending upon their origin. I never claimed anything else...

Car accidents are a problem to. You don't have to engage in a crusade against cars because of it. Your views and fears are not proportional to the problem at hand. You don't have any knowledge of the situation and your not backing up your claims in any way other then some anecdotal bullshit. Your using Sweden as a deterrent example completely based on your lack of insight. Just read a little bit about the stuff you think you understand, it's not to much to ask.

And please, just let me inform someone who is misled regarding the previously discussed statistics, without being disturbed by "One day you're going to have to face up to the fact that letting hordes of Muslims into Sweden" I'm not interested in your ignorant bickering. In fact I'm sick of it.
And btw, I have absolutely zero power to change to Muslim immigration to Sweden. I do not see how our current inflow of Muslim immigrants affects the opinions and the information I put forward on this forum... The immigration situation in Sweden is still not an argument against what I'm saying, no matter how many times you act like it.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: viktor]
    #23856842 - 11/22/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

you can call me whatever you want but fuck islam and anyone who worships that crock of shit. As a jesus christ follower its absolutely sickining and maddening to watch as almost everyone just steps aside as these goat fuckers rape and pillage everything. I watched a women get stoned to death over the fact her husband cheated and didnt want her anymore. How is any part of what they live and believe civilized, look at their shit hole cities. I personally dont hate the average Muslim but how many of them are willing to stand aside as their radical brother,cousin,mother,daughter,son,uncle, ect ect. Blow up, rape, sell into sex slavery, torture, and murder... And until they stop i say no more refugees.. And if we take in refugees women and young children only.. Much like the mexicans coming here wanting to change america.. Why dont you take your stinking ass and fix the pile of shit you came from?


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: TFI] * 1
    #23857428 - 11/22/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

where did you see that?
in a backward village while posted in the mid/far east?
or maybe in america?

violence against women is still huge in america, no race or creed has a monopoly on it.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23857478 - 11/22/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I thought Saudi Arabia's legal system was based on Sharia law, stoning women who don't conform, lashing, or even beheading gays was just business as usual.  Is that false?  I don't share TFI's view,  but am just looking for a basic reality check here.  Yanno, rape and domestic violence, while they certainly are problems in the USA, are actually illegal here.  I'm not saying that out of patriotism.  Just reality check.


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I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23857659 - 11/22/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sharia law is too primitive, and it provides too much power to the religious clerics who may rule on issues capriciously.

Law gets funky in the hands of experts like lawyers and judges, much worse if integrated with backward clergy.

At least girls in Egypt can go to school, but I dont think TFI meant Egypt, which is a cosmopolitan atomic power. Then again Pakistan has the bomb too, waaaahhh!!!


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23862368 - 11/24/16 01:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

muhammmed married a 9 year old, aisha was a child and he was 50


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: Malkuthian]
    #23862381 - 11/24/16 01:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Malkuthian said:
Yes, there is a difference between immigrants depending upon their origin. I never claimed anything else...

Car accidents are a problem to. You don't have to engage in a crusade against cars because of it. Your views and fears are not proportional to the problem at hand. You don't have any knowledge of the situation and your not backing up your claims in any way other then some anecdotal bullshit. Your using Sweden as a deterrent example completely based on your lack of insight. Just read a little bit about the stuff you think you understand, it's not to much to ask.

And please, just let me inform someone who is misled regarding the previously discussed statistics, without being disturbed by "One day you're going to have to face up to the fact that letting hordes of Muslims into Sweden" I'm not interested in your ignorant bickering. In fact I'm sick of it.
And btw, I have absolutely zero power to change to Muslim immigration to Sweden. I do not see how our current inflow of Muslim immigrants affects the opinions and the information I put forward on this forum... The immigration situation in Sweden is still not an argument against what I'm saying, no matter how many times you act like it.




Hollow argument...


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: Hobozen]
    #23862438 - 11/24/16 02:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

He's got nothing other than to keep calling me ignorant and saying I know nothing.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: viktor] * 2
    #23863309 - 11/24/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry?
Hollow argument for what?
What do you think I am arguing here?

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We have been over this before viktor and I have given you enough links and arguments already, which you have ignored.
Why should I post them again, and argue again?

Well well.... [...] ....Base line:
The fact is that the rape statistics has increased mostly because of changes in the law system, hence  the definitions and the handling of rape cases has changed the statistics so it's no longer are comparable to statistics from other countries, or even to previous statistics from Sweden.

--> You are using your made up depiction of the situation in Sweden to state an example. That is hollow.

Just google it yourselves... Just read the wiki article on rape in Sweden. Or the EU report I posted last time you were lying about this.

I have nothing?
You are referencing statistics, that is all you've got.
Sometimes that's a lot. But when the statistics are internationally questioned in many ways, one might need something to disprove that critique as well... The problem is that you are refusing to actually read the critique because the current narrative already fits your worldview, you don't want to understand it deeper, because it can't possibly enhance your wanted worldview any better than your current beliefs can.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: TFI]
    #23865053 - 11/25/16 12:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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TFI said:
you can call me whatever you want but fuck islam and anyone who worships that crock of shit.
As a jesus christ follower its absolutely sickining and maddening to watch as almost everyone just
steps aside as these goat fuckers rape and pillage everything.




LOL, Satan would pay you a high wage to spread this type of propaganda.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: Malkuthian]
    #23865570 - 11/25/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Again, you're trying to tell me that your wiki page trumps what I've heard from actual Swedish doctors, Police, medical workers etc.

A wiki page that anyone can edit and which are famous for being full of propaganda does not weigh more heavily than what actual people in Sweden have admitted to me after a few drinks.

As long as you continue to make this error you will continue to be angry at me.

Get off the Internet and talk to some real people. I know most Swedes are not very outgoing at this time of year but do try.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: viktor]
    #23865576 - 11/25/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Put it this way, if Sweden has not seen an increase in sexual assaults in proportion to their increase in Muslim immigration then they would be the only ones in Europe to have escaped it.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: viktor]
    #23866445 - 11/25/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Islam is perhaps more associated with illiteracy and poverty
than Christianity, with resultant even more unfortunate associated baggage.

But as the state of the USA shows, even literacy
when not associated with critical thinking skills,
and neighbors who value reason over emotion, when appropriate;
is no guarantee of sane behavior.
As folks are usually more influenced by group dynamics than they realize.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: laughingdog]
    #23866703 - 11/25/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

very true laughingdog


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: laughingdog]
    #23867605 - 11/25/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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As folks are usually more influenced by group dynamics than they realize.




Very true, I wonder what will happen to Islam once it is no longer trendy to be pro-mass Muslim immigration. I suspect the group dynamics are capable of switching very quickly.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: viktor]
    #23867845 - 11/26/16 03:21 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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viktor said:
Again, you're trying to tell me that your wiki page trumps what I've heard from actual Swedish doctors, Police, medical workers etc.

A wiki page that anyone can edit and which are famous for being full of propaganda does not weigh more heavily than what actual people in Sweden have admitted to me after a few drinks.





Did you here from Swedish doctors, Police, medical workers etc. that the problem with rape due to Muslim immigration is a much much much bigger problem in Sweden then in the rest of Europe? Cause that's what I'm saying, not that we don't have problems... I.e. the is no bigger need of a crusade against Muslims in Sweden than anywhere else. That comparison is faulty.

I'm saying this because you and others are using Sweden specifically as a deterrent example based on your misunderstanding of how to view the Swedish statistics when comparing it to other European countries.

Again and again you argue against me based on me saying something like: there are no problems with Muslim behavior against women. That is nothing but straw man bullshit, over and over. I don't know what your trying to accomplish with this. Why do you have to make up opinions that you can argue against? Creating fictive monsters to battle...

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viktor said:
Get off the Internet and talk to some real people. I know most Swedes are not very outgoing at this time of year but do try.



Your suggestion is that you have talked to more real Swedish people than me or what?
Either way this comment from you is far beyond utterly and endlessly retarded.
You don not have a better understanding on how Swedish people view these topics than I do because you had some conversations with some Swedish people god knows when. This level of arrogance and bad rhetoric from you is not the least bit acceptable. Frankly is a whole new level of pathetic from you.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: Malkuthian]
    #23868144 - 11/26/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Muslims vs Israel, who will win!  Find out next!


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23868775 - 11/26/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Muslims vs Israel, who will win!  Find out next!




Haven't you heard? The plan is that they mutually annihilate each other. Then we get rid of both of them in one stroke :thumbup:


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: viktor]
    #23868807 - 11/26/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Self fulfilling prophecy is a bitch , no?


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