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CosmicJoke said: Aye, I think it's wise to acknowledge our role in the problem, but it's kind of absurd to me to think that Islamic extremists aren't actually out there and it's just us manipulating and coordinating suicide bombings to go to war. IMHO, there really are Islamic extremist suicide bombers in the USA, and it's ridiculous to pretend otherwise.
Oh, I don't deny that at all. I never meant to suggest otherwise. My point is that a lot of civilians are dying as "collateral damage" in our attempts, usually, to go after one guy. This happens over and over again and nothing ever changes.
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CosmicJoke said: .... there really are Islamic extremist suicide bombers in the USA, and it's ridiculous to pretend otherwise.
true
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currently the greatest danger to us (that is't already being effectively handled)
seems to be from ourselves
So true.
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CosmicJoke said: Aye, I think it's wise to acknowledge our role in the problem, but it's kind of absurd to me to think that Islamic extremists aren't actually out there and it's just us manipulating and coordinating suicide bombings to go to war. IMHO, there really are Islamic extremist suicide bombers in the USA, and it's ridiculous to pretend otherwise.
Oh, I don't deny that at all. I never meant to suggest otherwise. My point is that a lot of civilians are dying as "collateral damage" in our attempts, usually, to go after one guy. This happens over and over again and nothing ever changes.
No, that was a response to RGV as well as you buddy. I'm in full agreement with ya.
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The idea of living in an islamic country seems nightmareish
but what are we about to do to ourselves?
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The rest of the world sees how we treat blacks and hispanics and performed genocide on the native americans exported CIA torture and is quite unimpressed with our ideas of "Democracy"
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oh and I left out Gitmo
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It's a seriously tough question, it seems like for most people I know the answer is to act like nothing is wrong...... It spells serious trouble.......
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It seems that democracy has pulled up Lady Liberty's skirt and fucked her in the ass. God only knows what the aftermath will be...
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Re: Islamophobia [Re: quinn]
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hell religious people might have one more reason to love and have mercy as well
I have yet to witness that. Sure there is the rare person that tries to do good, but by and large religion does not make one more moral. I have covered this many times.
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OrgoneConclusion said: I have covered this many times.
so have hitchens and dawkins and sam harris
what just became obvious was that we can't export democracy to illiterate countries as Bush jr thought we could--we saw this in iraq etc, and then the arab spring imploded in Egypt
what has just happened is the revelation that much of the USA is not much better than illiterate so we go down the tubes here Muslims or no muslims
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no mention in this thread that new president makes dick chenny look like a pussy when it comes to the use of torture
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Re: Islamophobia [Re: viktor]
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OrgoneConclusion said: Rape is up 4,000% in Sweden in the last decade due to predominantly Muslim refugees with similar stats in other European countries with a large influx of refugees. They bring with them a certain viewpoint of non-Muslim women that makes them fair game.
If you had read anything about this you would know that is complete bullshit. The main reason the statistics has gone up is changes in how we define "rape" in Sweden, and how cases are handled. This differs a lot from the rest of the world...
One day you're going to have to face up to the fact that letting hordes of Muslims into Sweden was the absolute worst thing you could possibly have ever done to your own women.
Even re-legalising marital rape wouldn't have been as bad, because Swedish men don't commit rape at anywhere near the rate of immigrant Muslims/North Africans, not even when they can get away with it.
Stop bickering over details and face the full magnitude of your fuck-up like a man, before it's too late.
Why are you here? You still don't even know my opinions in this matter. (Of which one is: we should let in a helluva lot fewer immigrants than we currently do, the current situation is something we cannot handle. This does not change how incredibly uniformed the bullshit about the Swedish rape-problem is...) And you still don't know shit about what you are talking about.
1. Learn facts 2. Form an opinion You have not yet passed point 1, in fact you don't even seem to try... There is information about this on the "internet". Try searching and learning already.
Fact is that there are not really any more problems with rape in Sweden then in the rest of Europe. This is supported by official EU reports which I have previously linked.
That does not imply there are no problems with Muslim rapists, and that such behavior is more common among general Muslims than General Sweds/Europeans. That observation does not justify ignorance and lies about the width of the problem... End of story.
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Is this a myth lie, too?

Many pools in Germany have put up these signs because the Muslim immigrants can't keep their hands to themselves.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/world/europe/a-climate-of-fear-widens-divisions-in-europes-migrant-crisis.html?_r=0
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OrgoneConclusion said: Is this a myth lie, too?

Many pools in Germany have put up these signs because the Muslim immigrants can't keep their hands to themselves.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/world/europe/a-climate-of-fear-widens-divisions-in-europes-migrant-crisis.html?_r=0
Didn't I just agree there is a problem? ....? I simply said the problem is not bigger in Sweden then anywhere else in Europe. Your example is from Germany. The rhetoric of using Sweden as a example based on rape statistics is what I questioned...
The sign was in german btw. Immigrants don't learn german, lol.
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Immigrants don't learn german, lol.
Sure, why would a Muslim want to integrate into its adoptive country?
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obviously to talk with white christian virgins
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Immigrants don't learn german, lol.
Sure, why would a Muslim want to integrate into its adoptive country?
...My point was: The sign wont have any function because the perpetrators does not understand it. Maybe it's directed at American tourists?
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It could just be a reminder not to bug the girls - note, Germany is full of skin head rapists, and women are discriminated against in their divorce laws, i.e. no 50%-50% basic assessment.
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