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Re: Islamophobia [Re: quinn]
    #24413947 - 06/18/17 01:15 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Just went to the corner store. There was a tall black guy there with one of those Muslim knit caps on - and he was open carrying a Beretta 92F in his belt. I wondered if I or other customers were going to be robbed or worse. If nothing else, that is intimidating and highly illegal. He was busy trying to convert the store clerk to Islam. Peace and weapons - um, OK.

I still bought my beer and left, but it was a not comfortable moment as he was right next to me while preaching against drugs and gambling (but not guns).


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #24414035 - 06/18/17 02:43 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

that sucks :frown: glad i dont live in america


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: quinn]
    #24414433 - 06/18/17 08:35 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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quinn said:
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The lurker said:
Again, semantics




is that your response? 'semantics'? do you even know what that means? i tried to make it clear as possible a thread about the irrational fear of something is not about the thing itself and your response is 'semantics'.. ok then.. if you are incapable of grasping the subtleties of english or the even words you are using there's little hope you will understand why your own arguments have been so fucking stupid... i think we r done here :bye:



i'm not the first person who said that's what you've been using, you're arguing like a child, using semantics, because you want you and people who agree with you to seem right, so you try to tell me this isn't a thread about islam it's about islamaphobia.
This all started because i was saying to another user this thread isn't about christianity, it's about islam.
So, yeah my response to that would be you're using semantics to argue.
You didn't actually counter any of my real arguments.


Because the main point of the concept islamaphobia, is absolutely not islam.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: The lurker]
    #24414500 - 06/18/17 08:55 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

What's the difference from arachno to arachnophobia...

See, now I just for fun play Orgone the Card of Doubt and guess he only just wants to show us our OWN Islamophobia in all of us ourselves.
Kind of trolling, but it worked.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: The lurker]
    #24415626 - 06/18/17 04:58 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

one last time

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this all started because i was saying to another user this thread isn't about christianity, it's about islam.




their quotes from the bible illustrated your "argument's" double standards and inherent islamaphobia...

...which this thread is about :thumbup:


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: oontribe]
    #24415812 - 06/18/17 06:19 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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oontribe said:
Spreading the hate against religion (and islam isnt that violent, i highly recommend you read the quran and a good commentary about it or huston smith book the world's religions) going to fix anything.

We need peace and love if we want to live happily not hatred.

And there is a reason why islam is the most growing religion in the world.

Btw i am an ex-muslim.




"there is a reason why islam is the most growing religion in the world"

I think I know why, do you?


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: qman]
    #24415820 - 06/18/17 06:23 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Reduction in childhood mortality in Muslim communities and a sort of a cultural predisposition towards large families?


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #24415829 - 06/18/17 06:25 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Just went to the corner store. There was a tall black guy there with one of those Muslim knit caps on - and he was open carrying a Beretta 92F in his belt. I wondered if I or other customers were going to be robbed or worse. If nothing else, that is intimidating and highly illegal. He was busy trying to convert the store clerk to Islam. Peace and weapons - um, OK.

I still bought my beer and left, but it was a not comfortable moment as he was right next to me while preaching against drugs and gambling (but not guns).



Weird.  Usually that would be a white guy with an assault rifle warning people about George Soros's secret plan to enslave the gentiles and bring about the end times.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: quinn]
    #24415831 - 06/18/17 06:26 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Would you be willing to go into No Go Zone in France alone and unarmed



I did not hear your answer. Was that a "yes" or a "no"?




if no go zones actually existed it might be a no. you need to check your sources mate

Gatestone institute
Quote:

"a right-wing think tank... criticized for publishing inaccurate articles.. accused of anti-Muslim bias..."

"The claim that there are areas in European cities governed by Sharia is false"





Daniel Pipes who originated the idea later retracted it after visiting the alleged zones:
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"For a visiting American, these areas are very mild, even dull. We who know the Bronx and Detroit expect urban hell in Europe, too, but there things look fine … hardly beautiful, but buildings are intact, greenery abounds, and order prevails. … Having this first-hand experience, I regret having called these areas no-go zones,"




so what are these 'sensitive' neighbourhoods?
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Far from being considered "off limits" to  authorities, they've been designated as priority areas for urban renewal and other forms of state aid.





and what's one of the reasons they exist?
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Many French Muslims live in tough, isolated neighborhoods and have faced discrimination in housing and employment.



from debunking the muslim-nogo zone myth

for someone who prides themselves on being logical and evidence based and not swayed by other people's hype and bs it is surprising you'd and post such hyped up misleading propaganda from unreliable sources




https://www.rt.com/news/392009-eight-hoods-added-sweden-no-go-zone/

The police, postal service and ambulance services all acknowledge them in Sweden.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: quinn]
    #24415849 - 06/18/17 06:31 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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now let me ask you a straight forward question mr Conclusion.

i have known you a long time, am familiar with your style and back story and threads and usually agree with them so am inclined to give you benefit of the doubt but this thread has gone on too long.. altho criticism of islam is consistent with your general criticism of religion singling out muslims as being especially dangerous and worthy of fear seems quite biased and ignores often obvious factors like poverty and war..

that many muslims today in western countries face discrimination in workplaces, on the streets, in the media.. that their right to exist is openly discussed in public discourse like no one else.. that there are hate crimes, violence, hate groups..  that the president is actively trying to implement a 'muslim ban'

do you really think there arent many ordinary muslim folk no better or worse or more dangerous than anyone else who face discrimination?

(that was rhetorical)

my question is not whether it's overblown or used for political ends or whatever, just straight answer pls, simply in a similar way to racism or antisemitism:

do you think islamaphobia exists at all?




"muslims...face discrimination"

And why do you think this might be the case?


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: qman]
    #24415917 - 06/18/17 06:55 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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"there is a reason why islam is the most growing religion in the world"





Because you will be killed if you do not join. What did I win? :cookiemonster:


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: qman]
    #24415919 - 06/18/17 06:57 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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The police, postal service and ambulance services all acknowledge them in Sweden.




Did they not know that Quinn said they were just a myth?


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: chibiabos]
    #24415930 - 06/18/17 07:01 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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chibiabos said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Just went to the corner store. There was a tall black guy there with one of those Muslim knit caps on - and he was open carrying a Beretta 92F in his belt. I wondered if I or other customers were going to be robbed or worse. If nothing else, that is intimidating and highly illegal. He was busy trying to convert the store clerk to Islam. Peace and weapons - um, OK.

I still bought my beer and left, but it was a not comfortable moment as he was right next to me while preaching against drugs and gambling (but not guns).



Weird.  Usually that would be a white guy with an assault rifle warning people about George Soros's secret plan to enslave the gentiles and bring about the end times.




You keep playing the same stupid game of equating random acts of violence with no common thread, to acts of violence from members of a religion whose holy book directs them to such acts.

http://time.com/4823063/bamako-mali-attack-campement-kangaba/?xid=homepage

Suspected Jihadists Attack Tourist Resort in Mali - wow, what a surprise!


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #24416004 - 06/18/17 07:30 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Do mainstream Muslims refute terrorism? Perhaps, let's see how this anti-terror march went in Germany:

http://www.dw.com/en/lower-than-expected-turnout-for-muslim-anti-terror-march-in-cologne/a-39294162

It seems 10,000 registered, but estimates range from a few hundred to a few thousand show up - far fewer than expected.

"Germany's biggest Islamic association, the Turkish-Islamic Union (known by its acronym DITIB), refused to take part."

So the vast majority refused to condemn terrorist acts. And there you have it!


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #24416030 - 06/18/17 07:43 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Article 11 of the treaty of Tripoli
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

if you want more google the letter written to Muhammed Ibn Abdullah Sultan of Morocco in 1789 by George Washington, read it thoroughly as it is written in law jargon, proper English.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #24416042 - 06/18/17 07:47 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:

chibiabos said:
Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
Just went to the corner store. There was a tall black guy there with one of those Muslim knit caps on - and he was open carrying a Beretta 92F in his belt. I wondered if I or other customers were going to be robbed or worse. If nothing else, that is intimidating and highly illegal. He was busy trying to convert the store clerk to Islam. Peace and weapons - um, OK.

I still bought my beer and left, but it was a not comfortable moment as he was right next to me while preaching against drugs and gambling (but not guns).



Weird.  Usually that would be a white guy with an assault rifle warning people about George Soros's secret plan to enslave the gentiles and bring about the end times.




You keep playing the same stupid game of equating random acts of violence with no common thread, to acts of violence from members of a religion whose holy book directs them to such acts.

http://time.com/4823063/bamako-mali-attack-campement-kangaba/?xid=homepage

Suspected Jihadists Attack Tourist Resort in Mali - wow, what a surprise!



I'm comparing crazy assholes with guns to crazy assholes with guns.  It's not my fault that we're arming religiously minded psychopaths on account of 'Murica.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #24416047 - 06/18/17 07:49 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

the government supplies isis to keep us in FEAR.  Fear allows them to take away our rights in order to "protect us."


never give in to fear, to do so is to allow something control over you.  Fuck that.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: chibiabos]
    #24416068 - 06/18/17 07:55 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm comparing crazy assholes with guns to crazy assholes with guns.




I get that but you don't seem to.


A non-religious nut-job kills for:

revenge
power
lust
pyschopathy
political reasons


A non-religious nut-job kills for:

revenge
power
lust
pyschopathy
political reasons
core religious teachings


The person with more reasons to go off is generally going to be more dangerous.

The fact that so many that do go off all share disturbing core teachings is certainly worth examining, is it not?


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: sprinkles]
    #24416124 - 06/18/17 08:22 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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sprinkles said:
the government supplies isis to keep us in FEAR.  Fear allows them to take away our rights in order to "protect us."


never give in to fear, to do so is to allow something control over you.  Fuck that.




:canthelpbutlaugh:
Yet the bible has all your answers.


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Re: Islamophobia [Re: qman]
    #24416170 - 06/18/17 08:38 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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qman said:
"muslims...face discrimination"

And why do you think this might be the case?




ignorance, bigotry, chauvinism, fear of the other

surprised i need to teach you basic concepts


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