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Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story
    #23844718 - 11/18/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, never mind.

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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23844774 - 11/18/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Did you lurkers really want me to elucidate on all of the nonsense? Do you not already know why it is silly?


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23844841 - 11/18/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Learn me something


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: TFI]
    #23844862 - 11/18/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No!

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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23844873 - 11/18/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: TFI]
    #23844906 - 11/18/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Please tell me you don't swallow that swill. :nonono:


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23845023 - 11/18/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Everything to an extent. I believe the world did flood, two of every animal not so much.

Reason i believe it flooded is the way the earth is shaped (to an extent). I grew up bassfishing and watching floods and droughts have assured me that points and breaks little slopes and hill rises move constantly.

Fishing the rivers especially, five years can go by watching the same point/bluff and in under a week that same bluff was gone, all the different colors of sediment that have setteled threwout the years gone. So i look at other formations mountains, vast valleys, huge trenches ect ect. Its not to hard to see a flood creating these things

But even that comes with question, tectonic plates moving. Volcanoes, these things still form mountains and valleys as well


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: TFI]
    #23845212 - 11/18/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Your pointing out flaws in an allegorical story?  How naive and misguided.


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23845226 - 11/18/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Isn't it based on another story which predates it?  Gilgamesh maybe?


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: Lucis]
    #23845233 - 11/18/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

They are similar.  Some do think that.  But they are both allegorical myth stories.  You dont pick a bone with a thing like that the way you would say a historical piece filled with inaccuracies.

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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: laughingdog]
    #23845595 - 11/18/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

What is humorous (I don't have the facts in front of me), but the crew that built the imitation ark was in the hundreds (if not thousands) and even using modern tools, took longer than the non-carpenter Noah and his handful of kin with an ax and a hand saw.

The man-hour numbers and skill levels don't even remotely match up.

It is like building a Cheops pyramid with cranes & bulldozers and such.


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23845697 - 11/18/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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non-carpenter Noah and his handful of kin with an ax and a hand saw.





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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: TFI]
    #23845968 - 11/18/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Everything to an extent. I believe the world did flood, two of every animal not so much.

Reason i believe it flooded is the way the earth is shaped (to an extent). I grew up bassfishing and watching floods and droughts have assured me that points and breaks little slopes and hill rises move constantly.

Fishing the rivers especially, five years can go by watching the same point/bluff and in under a week that same bluff was gone, all the different colors of sediment that have setteled threwout the years gone. So i look at other formations mountains, vast valleys, huge trenches ect ect. Its not to hard to see a flood creating these things

But even that comes with question, tectonic plates moving. Volcanoes, these things still form mountains and valleys as well




The Grand Canyon was formed by River erosion but not mountains.


Continental plates collide together to form mountains.


Mountains are then eroded over millions of years by the water cycle.


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23846208 - 11/18/16 06:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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What is humorous (I don't have the facts in front of me), but the crew that built the imitation ark was in the hundreds (if not thousands) and even using modern tools, took longer than the non-carpenter Noah and his handful of kin with an ax and a hand saw.

The man-hour numbers and skill levels don't even remotely match up.

It is like building a Cheops pyramid with cranes & bulldozers and such.




Didn't Noah live like 500 years or was that Moses?


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23846275 - 11/18/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Didn't Noah live like 500 years or was that Moses?




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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: laughingdog]
    #23846341 - 11/18/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

aliens gave Noah some plans and a chainsaw and a Makita LXT239 18-Volt LXT Lithium-Ion Brushless Cordless Drill and a bit of gas and stuff, ya know uh...


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: redgreenvines]
    #23852093 - 11/20/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

All boats have floors, otherwise they would sink.


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: wolfiewolfie] * 1
    #23852185 - 11/20/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



If taken literally, it sure seems like drowning the world and repopulating it with people who didn't suck didn't pan out so well.....  :shrug:


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: CosmicJoke] * 1
    #23852654 - 11/20/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

lmao.  who takes allegorical and mythological stories literally now a days?


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23852723 - 11/20/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Surely you saw Ken Ham and Bill Nye debate?  Maybe not :shrug:  They're out there man....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/karl-giberson-phd/ken-hams-crazy-ark-park_b_10893232.html


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

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I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23852763 - 11/20/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Read something of a flood in the Middle East about the same time.  They probably thought that was the whole planet.
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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: A.RichardTrickle] * 1
    #23852783 - 11/20/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I once stepped in a puddle, but was not creative enough to start a myth about it.

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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23852786 - 11/20/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

lol, we are so in our infancy.


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23855920 - 11/21/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You guys should check out the younger dryas and the melt water pulse 1a and 1b.

There was floods, and there is evidence in the landscape.

Randall Carlson has done a ton of research on this stuff.


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23858977 - 11/22/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I once stepped in a puddle, but was not creative enough to start a myth about it.

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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23869211 - 11/26/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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What is humorous (I don't have the facts in front of me), but the crew that built the imitation ark was in the hundreds (if not thousands) and even using modern tools, took longer than the non-carpenter Noah and his handful of kin with an ax and a hand saw.

The man-hour numbers and skill levels don't even remotely match up.

It is like building a Cheops pyramid with cranes & bulldozers and such.




While noahs ark is horseshit I agree, look in graham hancocks work, and star blabbering pseudoscience as he has multiple geologists backing him now.

Put it this way, for us, humans to wipe out the entire mammoth population in a matter of 100 to 200 years is beyond ridiculous to even consider. Mass extinction. Native tribes don't hunt animals to extinction now a days let alone back then, and with one of the most dangerous badass animals of that time period too


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: Mescalean]
    #23869237 - 11/26/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The Ark is a mythological/allegorical story.  Obviously these types of literature contain elements of truth as well, but when they are raised to become myth/allegory the truth is stretched mightily beyond its original form, so that it can reach many more people and have added power.

i wouldnt even be surprised if this much was true : some dude back in the day tripped his nuts off and had a vision and was well aware of the environment and him and some buddies built a boat for him and his family and some of their animals - in order to wait it out and survive.

But all the animals? no.  And a flooding of the whole world? no. 

The point is the story imparts knowledge, hidden in symbols ie. esoteric. that give us a matrix to juxtapose over our lives with our imagination/minds so that we can have a context for various things in life and have them make some sense - real or conjured, it matters not. Its true enough for some.


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #23869241 - 11/26/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I recommend Joseph Campbell and his book the Hero With a Thousand Faces, and The Heroes Journey.  Campbell was a master at discerning and studying and translating old folklore, myth, religion, etc etc into clear, insightful , modern, universal form.


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23870076 - 11/26/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ill have to check a couple books out from the library for the first time in a while it looks like. Thanks for the recommendation.

Been reading up on gobekli, the transfer from hunter gathers, and erosion in egypt. And it all makes perfect sense while those supporting the older out dated views remain stubborn to their work which contains plenty of holes and gapes in the narrative. That whole book, the bible is about tripping balls dude.

Back in the day I think the middle east actually knew how to get the fuck down. Plenty of acacia.

Which always made me wonder, just that child like wonder. Are they the visual cortex going apeshit when i hit the "loser" pipe. or is there something else to this universe than just our physical existence.

and not to get all tin foil, but rick straussmans (sp?) work was funded by the scottish rite... Interesting as hell considering these dudes love the combo of theology/philosophy


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23870259 - 11/26/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I recommend Joseph Campbell and his book the Hero With a Thousand Faces, and The Heroes Journey.  Campbell was a master at discerning and studying and translating old folklore, myth, religion, etc etc into clear, insightful , modern, universal form.





I was thinking the same thing. Am working thru that book now. The power of myth (another great Campbell book, ironically - but I'm talking about mythology and symbolism itself, not the book) has been lost to literal interpretation, unfortunately.


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Re: Flaws in the Noah's Ark / Great Flood story [Re: Penelope_Tree]
    #23870301 - 11/26/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Only in some.


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