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This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair * 2
    #23844136 - 11/18/16 04:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Let me start off by saying that I don't particularly like the electoral college. It's a flawed system. But after what I point out, a lot of you won't like the idea of a popular vote either. So here's what happened: Hillary is leading in the popular vote by a little over a million. After a review of the electoral map, it was noticed that Hillary won Las Angeles county by a wider margin than she did the popular vote. Here are pictures from the NYT and CNN confirming that:


So, las angeles county is the ONLY county that put Hillary on top in terms of popular vote. Besides LA, when added up, Trump wins the popular vote total of every other county. I for one would not like a county that is overun by illegal immigrants and voter fraud to be the county deciding our entire election. So in this case, the electoral college saved us from a disaster.

That's right. Trump won the popular vote of 3142 counties out of 3143.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Webster10] * 11
    #23844179 - 11/18/16 05:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

wow man who fucking cares. this is exhausting


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #23844186 - 11/18/16 05:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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wow man who fucking cares. this is exhausting




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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23844189 - 11/18/16 05:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting, that's a hell of a difference, I agree one city shouldn't decide for an entire state


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: stzacrack]
    #23844202 - 11/18/16 05:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

get outta my cuntry


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: stzacrack] * 2
    #23844221 - 11/18/16 06:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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stzacrack said:
Interesting, that's a hell of a difference, I agree one city shouldn't decide for an entire state




But one guy living out in the pasture with his cows should?

Everyone's vote should be equal, regardless of where you live.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: badchad]
    #23844246 - 11/18/16 06:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

yeah but if the guy with his cows is out voted by another guy in that county then the other person wins

if one candidate only panders to people who live in the city then of course the electoral college is going to help

I think gerry mandering is the bigger issue here..


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: badchad]
    #23844257 - 11/18/16 06:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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badchad said:
Quote:

stzacrack said:
Interesting, that's a hell of a difference, I agree one city shouldn't decide for an entire state




But one guy living out in the pasture with his cows should?

Everyone's vote should be equal, regardless of where you live.



It's just the fact that ONE county, out of over 3,000, shouldn't decide the election either. Especially when a bunch of illegals vote in that county.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: badchad]
    #23844259 - 11/18/16 06:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I mean honestly aren't they all equal in that nobody's vote matters anyway?


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: stzacrack] * 1
    #23844271 - 11/18/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

the electoral saved us from the Hildabeast, that's all that needs to be said about that

Now let's look at senatorial races, a MAJORITY of states voted for republicans to run the senate

Now let's look at the House of Representatives, a MAJORITY of states voted for republicans

Now let's look at governorships, a MAJORITY of states have voted to have republicans

Now let's look at state legislatures, a MAJORITY of states voted for republicans to control them.

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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23844282 - 11/18/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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the electoral saved us from the Hildabeast, that's all that needs to be said about that




what about that the electoral college made a bunch of bigots cry


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23844298 - 11/18/16 06:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

do you guys EVER fucking get sick of talking about the same shit?

talk about the energizer bunnies...

call me when you trumpers finally get tired of rubbing his victory in the "libtards" faces


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23844312 - 11/18/16 06:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I understand the pros of the electoral college but the result of it is that some votes weigh more than others which just isn't how I like things. One man one vote, I want a democracy not a fuckin republic


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #23844318 - 11/18/16 06:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
do you guys EVER fucking get sick of talking about the same shit?

talk about the energizer bunnies...





and yet here you are saying the exact same thing for the hundredth time

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call me when you trumpers finally get tired of rubbing his victory in the "libtards" faces





oh, we will never get tired of it



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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23844327 - 11/18/16 06:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

i didnt think so :lol:

ok you guys won we get it


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23844330 - 11/18/16 07:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The Mycologist said:
I understand the pros of the electoral college but the result of it is that some votes weigh more than others which just isn't how I like things. One man one vote, I want a democracy not a fuckin republic





so move to where there is a democracy, I hear mexico has a democratic government


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23844341 - 11/18/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think most of the population agrees that a popular vote is the way to go, if that's the case then the people should have their way.

I want to say for the record that these opinions have nothing to do with the recent election.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: The Mycologist] * 1
    #23844517 - 11/18/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

"Trump won the popular vote of 3142 counties out of 3143. "

Theres no way thats true! No way....


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23844581 - 11/18/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's not.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23844608 - 11/18/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

First, there are not 3,143 counties.

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How many counties are there in the United States?

There are 3,141 counties and county equivalents in the 50 States and the District of Columbia. They are categorized as follows:

3,007 entities named "County"
16 Boroughs in Alaska
11 Census Areas in Alaska (for areas not organized into Boroughs by the State)
64 Parishes in Louisiana
42 Independent Cities (1 in Maryland, 1 in Missouri, 1 in Nevada, and the remainder in Virginia)
1 District - the Federal District or District of Columbia.




2nd, just in NY there are 62 counties of which Trump won 46. So he's down by 14 right there.

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Democrat Hillary Clinton cruised to a win by popular vote with statewide Democratic enrollment on her side, while Republican Donald Trump won the geographic battle of the state by picking up 46 county-level victories, primarily upstate.




http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/269284/trump-wins-ny-county-battle-but-clinton-wins-the-votes/


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #23844620 - 11/18/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

There are 58 counties in CA.

Trump won 24 so he's down another 34.

http://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/article115280078.html

So in the two states I bothered with he's down a total of 48 already.

I'm not sure why people say stupid shit like "Trump won the popular vote of 3142 counties out of 3143. "

It does no-one any good.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #23844626 - 11/18/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
do you guys EVER fucking get sick of talking about the same shit?




No, but it seems you do.

Here's a thought, if you don't like threads like this... don't read them. Don't participate in them.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23844638 - 11/18/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Let me start off by saying that I don't particularly like the electoral college. It's a flawed system. But after what I point out, a lot of you won't like the idea of a popular vote either. So here's what happened: Hillary is leading in the popular vote by a little over a million. After a review of the electoral map, it was noticed that Hillary won Las Angeles county by a wider margin than she did the popular vote. Here are pictures from the NYT and CNN confirming that:


So, las angeles county is the ONLY county that put Hillary on top in terms of popular vote. Besides LA, when added up, Trump wins the popular vote total of every other county. I for one would not like a county that is overun by illegal immigrants and voter fraud to be the county deciding our entire election. So in this case, the electoral college saved us from a disaster.

That's right. Trump won the popular vote of 3142 counties out of 3143.




Youre so full of shit. What are you even talking out. My county is over a million people and Clinton got 80% of the vote. Your math sucks as well. The margin in LA is 1.2 million and Clinton's lead is 1.5 million. Or do you just want to throw out the Hillary vote? Why don't we just have an elections where you don't count liberals. That sounds like what you are arguing.

When all is said and done, you could throw out every democratic vote in Los Angeles and Clinton will still have won the popular vote. She is expected to top a 2 million vote lead when counting is finished.

Your argument comes down to "there are too many liberals in the country, so we shouldn't count liberal votes or the liberal candidate would win"

You really are disgusting.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Konyap]
    #23844643 - 11/18/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Konyap said:
yeah but if the guy with his cows is out voted by another guy in that county then the other person wins

if one candidate only panders to people who live in the city then of course the electoral college is going to help

I think gerry mandering is the bigger issue here..




You can't gerrymander an election if everyone's vote counts equally. Gerrymandering requires a system.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23844670 - 11/18/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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the electoral saved us from the Hildabeast, that's all that needs to be said about that

Now let's look at senatorial races, a MAJORITY of states voted for republicans to run the senate

Now let's look at the House of Representatives, a MAJORITY of states voted for republicans





  • Democratic senate candidates received more votes than republican candidates.

  • Democratic house candidates received more votes than republican candidates.

  • The democratic presidential candidate got more votes than the republican..

  • Democratic states have more people than republican states.


This is affirmative action for republicans.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: koods]
    #23844845 - 11/18/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I just got a new job that covers days as well as night. I've previously just been working nights.

Now that I re visit these threads I realise, man none of you guys have jobs huh? Are you all students?


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: imachavel]
    #23844882 - 11/18/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Im at work now :wink:...

and I'm a student


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Webster10] * 6
    #23844970 - 11/18/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Webster, did you, by chance eat lead paint when you were a kid (3 years ago)?


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23845160 - 11/18/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
First, there are not 3,143 counties.

Quote:

How many counties are there in the United States?

There are 3,141 counties and county equivalents in the 50 States and the District of Columbia. They are categorized as follows:

3,007 entities named "County"
16 Boroughs in Alaska
11 Census Areas in Alaska (for areas not organized into Boroughs by the State)
64 Parishes in Louisiana
42 Independent Cities (1 in Maryland, 1 in Missouri, 1 in Nevada, and the remainder in Virginia)
1 District - the Federal District or District of Columbia.




2nd, just in NY there are 62 counties of which Trump won 46. So he's down by 14 right there.

Quote:

Democrat Hillary Clinton cruised to a win by popular vote with statewide Democratic enrollment on her side, while Republican Donald Trump won the geographic battle of the state by picking up 46 county-level victories, primarily upstate.




http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/269284/trump-wins-ny-county-battle-but-clinton-wins-the-votes/



Exclude LA, trump would have won the popular vote of every other county combined. If LA was removed from the count, Trump would have won the popular vote.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Webster10]
    #23845285 - 11/18/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Webster10 said:

Exclude LA, trump would have won the popular vote of every other county combined. If LA was removed from the count, Trump would have won the popular vote.




No. Clinton won the top 13 most populist counties. source.    Trump would not have won California by any vote, electoral, popular or otherwise


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: badchad] * 1
    #23845317 - 11/18/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You're delusional.

Donald trump got more votes in LA county than he did in any of these states:

Wyoming
West Virginia
Vermont
Utah
South Dakota
Rhode Island
Notth Dakota
New Mexico
Nebraska
Montana
Idaho
Hawaii
Washington DC (he got 4% lol)
Delaware
Alaska
New Hampshire
Nevada
Maine


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Webster10] * 1
    #23845341 - 11/18/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Exclude LA, trump would have won the popular vote of every other county combined. If LA was removed from the count, Trump would have won the popular vote.




You are insane.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Webster10]
    #23845429 - 11/18/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Exclude LA, trump would have won the popular vote of every other county combined. If LA was removed from the count, Trump would have won the popular vote.




As nice as it would be if the entire state of California vanished tomorrow, it doesn't work that way.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23845440 - 11/18/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

They should just let Washington, Oregon and Northern California become a new country; Cascadia.



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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: TNK]
    #23845449 - 11/18/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Nah. Too many nice beaches to forever leave them to twits.

The residents of those three states are welcome to take Mexico. Alternatively, give them Washington.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: koods]
    #23845460 - 11/18/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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the electoral saved us from the Hildabeast, that's all that needs to be said about that

Now let's look at senatorial races, a MAJORITY of states voted for republicans to run the senate

Now let's look at the House of Representatives, a MAJORITY of states voted for republicans





  • Democratic senate candidates received more votes than republican candidates.

  • Democratic house candidates received more votes than republican candidates.

  • The democratic presidential candidate got more votes than the republican..

  • Democratic states have more people than republican states.


This is affirmative action for republicans.




Well, luckily,  California doesn't get to elect the governor of Wyoming or the senators from South Dakota or any other state for that matter:shrug:

In states with republican governors, the REPUBLICAN candidate got more votes than the democrat

In states with REPUBLICAN senators, the republican candidate got more votes than the democrat candidates did.

In states with REPUBLICAN representatives, the REPUBLICAN got more votes than the democrat

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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #23845461 - 11/18/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Cascadia is a funny name for something that'll, in due time, eventually fall into the ocean.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23846397 - 11/18/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

so will europe and parts of africa


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    #23846575 - 11/18/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

lol.  politics.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: koods]
    #23847572 - 11/19/16 06:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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yeah but if the guy with his cows is out voted by another guy in that county then the other person wins

if one candidate only panders to people who live in the city then of course the electoral college is going to help

I think gerry mandering is the bigger issue here..




You can't gerrymander an election if everyone's vote counts equally. Gerrymandering requires a system.





you are so full of shit, do you even know what gerrymandering is because the
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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23848024 - 11/19/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

the electoral college can rely on gerry mandering easily
seperating counties in a state will always subject the electoral college to some sort of gerry mandering


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Prisoner#1]
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yeah but if the guy with his cows is out voted by another guy in that county then the other person wins

if one candidate only panders to people who live in the city then of course the electoral college is going to help

I think gerry mandering is the bigger issue here..




You can't gerrymander an election if everyone's vote counts equally. Gerrymandering requires a system.





you are so full of shit, do you even know what gerrymandering is because the
electoral college isnt fucking gerrymandering




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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23848072 - 11/19/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

No, that's how the idiot minority of ass backwards republicans win elections.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: koods] * 1
    #23848084 - 11/19/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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No, that's how the idiot minority of ass backwards republicans win elections.



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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Webster10]
    #23848104 - 11/19/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Interesting, that's a hell of a difference, I agree one city shouldn't decide for an entire state




But one guy living out in the pasture with his cows should?

Everyone's vote should be equal, regardless of where you live.



It's just the fact that ONE county, out of over 3,000, shouldn't decide the election either. Especially when a bunch of illegals vote in that county.




Dude illegals can't vote...are you serious? LA has a large LEGAL and NATURALIZED Latin population. Wow. So ignorant.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: koods]
    #23848105 - 11/19/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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No, that's how the idiot minority of ass backwards republicans win elections.





but republicans won, right. winning is what counts



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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: lysergiccognition]
    #23848116 - 11/19/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Dude illegals can't vote...are you serious? LA has a large LEGAL and NATURALIZED Latin population. Wow. So ignorant.





obama told them to vote, many states refuse to enact a voter ID law so how do we know if illegals arent voting



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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Prisoner#1]
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No, that's how the idiot minority of ass backwards republicans win elections.





but republicans won, right. winning is what counts






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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23848176 - 11/19/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

have you noticed that neither hillary or obama have denounced the violence of the
left, folks like koods and crystal g seem to pretend it doesnt happen, it's no
wonder this the election went the way it did. because if we're going to have clowns
running the show then it's best to get the best clown that the world had to offer
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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23848199 - 11/19/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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have you noticed that neither hillary or obama have denounced the violence of the
left, folks like koods and crystal g seem to pretend it doesnt happen, it's no
wonder this the election went the way it did. because if we're going to have clowns
running the show then it's best to get the best clown that the world had to offer
and since he wasnt available we settled for trump instead




People being beaten in the street and not a peep from libs,

Some guy yells at a girl in Starbucks and libs lose their minds

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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23848376 - 11/19/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

actually, you people refuse to denounce the violence on the right^ when someone does something, you say they are "actors".

so you're equally of ill-repute.

stfu you people are full of shit.

PS: (no one needs to denounce anything, if they don't want to. maybe some will keep their feelings to themselves. maybe they already did denounce it, but you didn't see it...you see everyone's posts?

again STFU, you people are full of shit. in fact, you're shit starters.)

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Dude illegals can't vote...are you serious? LA has a large LEGAL and NATURALIZED Latin population. Wow. So ignorant.





obama told them to vote, many states refuse to enact a voter ID law so how do we know if illegals arent voting





again, another post where Prisoner reveals his stupidity.

he told them to vote? no, he said, they won't get harassed.

see the difference? no of course you can't, because logic isn't your forte.

stop lying. try just addressing reality.

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you are so full of shit



you should be the last person to call someone out on bullshit, i mean, look at the bullshit you yourself vomit out on the daily....


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23848405 - 11/19/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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People being beaten in the street and not a peep from libs




i denounced it. :shrug: plenty of people denounced any violence.
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Some guy yells at a girl in Starbucks and libs lose their minds




no one lost their minds...they put up the link in a thread...to talk about. like people have been doing the past week almost, now; they've been spamming the pub with all sorts of shit, and this is just that...only it's about some Trump guy...and it was funny...what was also funny was people like yourself saying "it wasn't real".

sure. deny deny deny.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23848434 - 11/19/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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have you noticed that neither hillary or obama have denounced the violence of the
left, folks like koods and crystal g seem to pretend it doesnt happen, it's no
wonder this the election went the way it did. because if we're going to have clowns
running the show then it's best to get the best clown that the world had to offer
and since he wasnt available we settled for trump instead




People being beaten in the street and not a peep from libs,

Some guy yells at a girl in Starbucks and libs lose their minds

***they really do live in an alternate reality





some guy in a road rage incident where he was provoked by some black people and no
one was hurt, no property damage at all, yet that's a big fucking deal even though
liberals are burning businesses and hurting people because their butthurt little
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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23848441 - 11/19/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Dude illegals can't vote...are you serious? LA has a large LEGAL and NATURALIZED Latin population. Wow. So ignorant.





obama told them to vote, many states refuse to enact a voter ID law so how do we know if illegals arent voting





again, another post where Prisoner reveals his stupidity.

he told them to vote? no, he said, they won't get harassed.





so wait, he didnt correct the girl on the illegals being citizens and he didnt
tell her that illegals cannot vote in US elections but did say that if they
voted in the US elections that they wouldnt be harassed

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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23848448 - 11/19/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

no, that's not telling them to vote. it's not even prevarication. he's answering her question straight-forward, and precisely. no, no one can harass or do searches on your person, for nothing...for "being an illegal". there's good reason why people don't just assume someone is "bad guy" and then detain and search them, and possibly arrest them...it's called the first & fourth amendment rights.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23848455 - 11/19/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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no, that's not telling them to vote. it's not even prevarication. he's answering her question straight-forward, and precisely. no, no one can harass or do searches on your person, for nothing...for "being an illegal". there's good reason why people don't just assume someone is "bad guy" and then detain and search them, and possibly arrest them...it's called the first & fourth amendment rights.





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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: Prisoner#1]
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some guy in a road rage incident where he was provoked by some black people and no
one was hurt, no property damage at all, yet that's a big fucking deal even though
liberals are burning businesses and hurting people because their butthurt little
asses couldnt handle that they got catfished by a clinton



no one but you and your buttbuddies are even making such a comparison.

see, people who aren't shitting out bullshit, and are just discussing things, in general, these people don't endorse propaganda, and they'll generally hold the view that those whom commit violence are doing wrong, and that those whom are trying to create propaganda are also doing wrong.

some people need not take sides, and allow what is wrong on one side, to be ignored, for the sake that they are "on your side".

some people point out the bullshit in all regards, instead of just making comparisons between two coalitions, claiming one are saints and the other are evil; because both sides are doing stupid shit, it's only fair that they both be treated and viewed with the same demerits as one another; no comparison needed.

the protesters that are blocking roads and whom are committing to violence are being idiots, just like the prevaricating shifty Trump fans who'll propagate that "all liberals are violent neo-nazis" (or whatever have you, "they're evil" "they're human scum" ect)

if anyone said that "all republicans are nazis" (or whatever, again, ect ect), i'd proceed to correct them on that, just as well.

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He gave illegals the go ahead to vote, he should be shot for treason

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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23848500 - 11/19/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yet, I'm not the one out attacking people, the Hildabeast supporters are

Yet, you're more offended by my opinion than the violence in the street

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    #23848541 - 11/19/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Dude doesn't everyone know that ALL protesters are paid actors?


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Whenever I protested there was guys in black suits just handing out stacks of money.


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Re: This is why the electoral college actually makes the election more fair [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23848568 - 11/19/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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no, that's not telling them to vote. it's not even prevarication. he's answering her question straight-forward, and precisely.





maybe not in your delusional, liberal mind but the reality that's giving illegals
the big thumbs up to get out and vote. you can put your liberal spin on it anyway
that you want but it doesnt change the facts


so when precicely did such an excellent orator get his words all mixed up where he
would say "when you vote, you are a citizen" after someone made the claim that
illegals were citizens in her own opinion.


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no, no one can harass or do searches on your person, for nothing...for "being an illegal". there's good reason why people don't just assume someone is "bad guy" and then detain and search them, and possibly arrest them...it's called the first & fourth amendment rights.




this shit has nothing to do with voting, voter ID laws should be in place in oder
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How does an ID prove your citizenship? Aside from a passport, what ID can actually establish that?


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maybe not in your delusional, liberal mind but the reality that's giving illegals
the big thumbs up to get out and vote. you can put your liberal spin on it anyway
that you want but it doesnt change the fact




you aren't addressing facts, you're addressing your perceptions of what he said, versus what he ACTUALLY said. :shrug: you're the lib here, not me.

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"when you vote, you are a citizen" after someone made the claim that
illegals were citizens in her own opinion.




:shrug: he clearly explained himself, he said "when you vote, you are a citizen", and then he explained that what he means is that no one is treated like a non-citizen, ever, in the country, because of something called rights. it's against one's rights to treat someone like a criminal, when there is no proof they are one. :shrug:

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voter ID laws should be in place in order




i've said the same thing in the past. :shrug: so we don't disagree there.

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How does an ID prove your citizenship? Aside from a passport, what ID can actually establish that?



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