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Quit smoking ammonium salt additives and detox.
    #23842294 - 11/17/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Philip Morris and other tobacco companies have been using ammonia in their manufacturing for more than half a century, and for a variety of purposes: to highlight certain flavors, to expand or “puff up” the volume of tobacco, to prepare reconstituted tobacco sheet




Tailored tobacco companies like Phillip Morris have been using additives to change the flavours of their tobacco for years. Flavours of tobacco can be changed by changing the pH and to do this they need to alkalise the tobacco with ammonia compounds like ammonium salts which on their own are highly toxic and can cause damage to cellular respiration.


After further readings I've found the real use of ammonium salt is to increase the bioavailability of nicotine in the lungs to create a stronger and more addictive effect.

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'Addition of substances which increase the bioavailability of nicotine.'
"Increase the bioavailability of nicotine by adding alkalising ingredients which increase the pH of tobacco (such as ammonium compounds). At higher pH (pH >8.0) more nicotine is in its free uncharged form, which would therefore more easily pass the (lung) membrane i.e. higher absorption leading to higher blood and brain nicotine levels. For details see section 3.8.3.2 on ammonia and other compounds affecting smoke pH."
http://ec.europa.eu/health/scientific_committees/opinions_layman/tobacco/en/l-3/5.htm




Since reading this I haven't had any tobacco in 48 hours because I don't believe washing ammonium salt in an undisclosed acid removes 100% of its toxicity. Additionally they are adding ammonium salt not removing ammonia!
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Although toxic in large doses, ammonia is relatively easy to remove from processed tobacco leaves; the gaseous form is quite volatile, and the salt is easily neutralized by the addition of an acid



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424107/

Ammonium salt and potassium carbonate additives are in your tailors.
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Corporation in 1964 patented a tobacco substitute “in which ammonia salts are used to inhibit benz-a-pyrene formation, and in 1967 British American Tobacco researchers reported similar reductions with potassium carbonate"




Since realising this I've begun a detox to remove ammonia from my system which I intend to continue till the end of the year.
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"L-glutamine helps protect the body against ammonia toxicity by transporting ammonia, in the form of L-glutamine's amide group, from peripheral tissues to visceral organs, where it can be excreted as ammonium by the kidneys or converted to urea by the liver."





If anyone is attempting to quit tobacco cold turkey then maybe the fact that you're smoking ammonium salts should be enough to stop because in doing so you're only hastening a path to certain doom.


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Re: Quit smoking ammonium salt additives and detox. [Re: sudly]
    #23847585 - 11/19/16 06:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ammonia is a normal product of human metabolism. Have you ever noticed that urine takes on an ammonia odor upon standing. Ammonia in the body is converted to urea (which is named because it is such a large component of urine) that's how much ammonia is processed at all times. The amounts you are talking about are totally insignificant.

On an average day, a person processes about 20-25g of naturally occuring ammonia.


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Re: Quit smoking ammonium salt additives and detox. [Re: sudly]
    #23847707 - 11/19/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I thought when you smell of ammonia after a hard workout, that your body is burning protein.:uhoh:


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    #23847721 - 11/19/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes. Ammonia is a byproduct of protein catabolism. Of course, like any substance, excess ammonia is bad, but the body is quite capable of handling fairly large amounts.


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Re: Quit smoking ammonium salt additives and detox. [Re: koods]
    #23848962 - 11/19/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ammonia may be in the body naturally but so is cyanide and gold, that doesn't mean exposing the body to excess levels of ammonium is good, especially when it's an ammonium salt that is undisclosed on the packaging and inefficiently(not 100%) 'detoxified' in an undisclosed acid.


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Re: Quit smoking ammonium salt additives and detox. [Re: sudly]
    #23849304 - 11/19/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Baking powder is an ammonium salt. Ammonium salts are fairly non toxic unless you consume large amounts in excess of 20 grams or so.

You're totally overreacting.


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Re: Quit smoking ammonium salt additives and detox. [Re: koods]
    #23849335 - 11/19/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Ammonium salt:
A product of a reaction between ammonia, NH3, and various acids.

Examples of ammonium salts are ammonium chloride, NH4Cl, ammonium nitrate, NH4NO3, and ammonium carbonate, (NH4)2CO3. These compounds are addition products of ammonia and the acid. For this reason, their formulas are sometimes written as [H(NH3)]X.
https://www.accessscience.com/content/ammonium-salt/028800






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Re: Quit smoking ammonium salt additives and detox. [Re: sudly]
    #23860746 - 11/23/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

fasting for a few days is a great way to detox


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