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Invisibleohcrapitsnico
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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: qman]
    #23847839 - 11/19/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

And now it's clear they've been a failure for all racial groups. What's your point?


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23847856 - 11/19/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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yogabunny said:
Well, yeah - an example is the mandatory minimum crack sentence vs. mandatory minimum cocaine sentence.

It used to be 100:1. Now it's 18:1, but who knows if that will stand with Trump's Attorney General appointee.




That sentencing law applies to everyone, including whites. With that being said, who asked for the tough drug laws?  http://www.wnyc.org/story/312823-black-leaders-once-championed-strict-drug-laws-they-now-seek-dismantle/




Yeah, that was before the races changed colors, the black civil rights leaders of then are now the white devils of today:rolleyes:

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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: koods]
    #23847861 - 11/19/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:
https://www.facebook.com/MicMedia/videos/1290230277666426/

Trump supporter with a baseball bat threatening black drivers.







how can you tell the driver is black? I wonder what the rest of the story is since
the video in question just happened to be filmed by Democratic Party Vice-Chair
of Volusia County in Florida



let's see. was it a jetta or a charger?



the shape says it wasnt a jetta



so why was the guy in the charger following him and prompting this incident of
road rage? could it be some black folks didnt believe he had the right to free
speech when he displayed the confederate flag on his truck so they said something
to him, maybe they flashed a gun or made other threats

it sure is easy to skew a story when you're the vice chair of the democratic party


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23847869 - 11/19/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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ohcrapitsnico said:
And now it's clear they've been a failure for all racial groups. What's your point?




That the laws are a failure and there's no grand conspiracy to target specific demographics. 

I don't recall Obama demanding an overhaul of our drug and sentencing laws.


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23847868 - 11/19/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I find this hilarious. You clearly see video evidence of a guy who is quite possibly in all likelihood mentally ill or drugged out and distraught, wavering through traffic attempting to smash cars with baseball bats, and you're STILL trying to justify this.

Why can you not simply admit that these are the actions of an insane person? Why are you trying to even rationalize the actions of a clearly deranged lunatic?


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: qman]
    #23847884 - 11/19/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

ohcrapitsnico said:
And now it's clear they've been a failure for all racial groups. What's your point?




That the laws are a failure and there's no grand conspiracy to target specific demographics. 

I don't recall Obama demanding an overhaul of our drug and sentencing laws.



Perhaps they weren't started as a grand conspiracy but they've been used in the grand conspiracy. Have you forgotten the reagan administration facilitated the influx of crack cocaine into the black neighborhoods of LA to pay for their dirty war?


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: qman] * 2
    #23847893 - 11/19/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
"conflate 'police' with 'white'"

No, I specifically stated "white culture" and "law enforcement".  We both know "law enforcement" can include of white, Hispanic, Asian, black, female, male, homosexual, with a variety of ages.

"evidence of systemic racism"

A few examples of racist individuals in law enforcement is NOT evidence of systemic racism.  Are there racist polices written into law?  No.




How can you even try to deny that there is no racial disparity in arrest rates, sentencing rates, etc. when the statistics are clearly out there?

You know damn good and well there's discrimination against fat people, against ugly people, against poor people, against all types of people for all sorts of reasons. So why is it so hard for you to admit that race just MIGHT BE one of the factors that people get routinely discriminated for?


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23847895 - 11/19/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Qman doesn't like black people.


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23847907 - 11/19/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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ohcrapitsnico said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

ohcrapitsnico said:
And now it's clear they've been a failure for all racial groups. What's your point?




That the laws are a failure and there's no grand conspiracy to target specific demographics. 

I don't recall Obama demanding an overhaul of our drug and sentencing laws.



Perhaps they weren't started as a grand conspiracy but they've been used in the grand conspiracy. Have you forgotten the reagan administration facilitated the influx of crack cocaine into the black neighborhoods of LA to pay for their dirty war?




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It also concluded that "the claims that Blandón and Meneses were responsible for introducing crack cocaine into South Central Los Angeles and spreading the crack epidemic throughout the country were unsupported." Although it did find that both men were major drug dealers, "guilty of enriching themselves at the expense of countless drug users", and that they had contributed money to the Contra cause, "we did not find that their activities were responsible for the crack cocaine epidemic in South Central Los Angeles, much less the rise of crack throughout the nation, or that they were a significant source of support for the Contras.




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The first volume of the report found no evidence that "any past or present employee of CIA, or anyone acting on behalf of CIA, had any direct or indirect dealing" with Ross, Blandón, or Meneses or that any of the other figures mentioned in "Dark Alliance" were ever employed by or associated with or contacted by the agency.[46]

It found nothing to support the claim that "the drug trafficking activities of Blandón and Meneses were motivated by any commitment to support the Contra cause or Contra activities undertaken by CIA." It noted that Blandón and Meneses claimed to have donated money to Contra sympathizers in Los Angeles, but found no information to confirm that it was true or that the agency had heard of it.[46]

It found no information to support the claim that the agency interfered with law enforcement actions against Ross, Blandón or Meneses.[46]




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking

***facts, you should try them sometime


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23847937 - 11/19/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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ohcrapitsnico said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

ohcrapitsnico said:
And now it's clear they've been a failure for all racial groups. What's your point?




That the laws are a failure and there's no grand conspiracy to target specific demographics. 

I don't recall Obama demanding an overhaul of our drug and sentencing laws.



Perhaps they weren't started as a grand conspiracy but they've been used in the grand conspiracy. Have you forgotten the reagan administration facilitated the influx of crack cocaine into the black neighborhoods of LA to pay for their dirty war?




Drug prohibition is for profits, it doesn't care what it destroys in the process.


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23847949 - 11/19/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
Quote:

qman said:
"conflate 'police' with 'white'"

No, I specifically stated "white culture" and "law enforcement".  We both know "law enforcement" can include of white, Hispanic, Asian, black, female, male, homosexual, with a variety of ages.

"evidence of systemic racism"

A few examples of racist individuals in law enforcement is NOT evidence of systemic racism.  Are there racist polices written into law?  No.




How can you even try to deny that there is no racial disparity in arrest rates, sentencing rates, etc. when the statistics are clearly out there?

You know damn good and well there's discrimination against fat people, against ugly people, against poor people, against all types of people for all sorts of reasons. So why is it so hard for you to admit that race just MIGHT BE one of the factors that people get routinely discriminated for?




The racial disparity doesn't mean there's discrimination, correlation isn't causation.

The disparity is largely because of the open drug practices done on the street level.  I don't buy my weed on a street corner, why is that?


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: ohcrapitsnico] * 1
    #23847952 - 11/19/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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ohcrapitsnico said:
And now it's clear they've been a failure for all racial groups. What's your point?




His point is he thinks like a republican which means you keep trying the same failed policy over and over.

Come on, if we had just given the Cuba embargo a little more time :mad:


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23847958 - 11/19/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Qman doesn't like black people.




Actually you would be wrong, I have many blacks associates in the pool halls I attend on a regular basis. How many black people do you voluntarily associate with on a regular basis?


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: koods]
    #23847963 - 11/19/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

ohcrapitsnico said:
And now it's clear they've been a failure for all racial groups. What's your point?




His point is he thinks like a republican which means you keep trying the same failed policy over and over.

Come on, if we had just given the Cuba embargo a little more time :mad:




The current drug laws suck, why didn't Obama fight for big change?


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: qman]
    #23847985 - 11/19/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
The racial disparity doesn't mean there's discrimination, correlation isn't causation.

The disparity is largely because of the open drug practices done on the street level.  I don't buy my weed on a street corner, why is that?




So are you saying that there would be no disparity in states where open market drug practices don't exist? Because states like California, Arizona, and New Mexico have no open air drug markets.


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23847994 - 11/19/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
Quote:

qman said:
The racial disparity doesn't mean there's discrimination, correlation isn't causation.

The disparity is largely because of the open drug practices done on the street level.  I don't buy my weed on a street corner, why is that?




So are you saying that there would be no disparity in states where open market drug practices don't exist? Because states like California, Arizona, and New Mexico have no open air drug markets.



:facepalm: you know this how? You're aware of the style of every drug transaction in those three states how?


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: qman]
    #23848000 - 11/19/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

ohcrapitsnico said:
And now it's clear they've been a failure for all racial groups. What's your point?




His point is he thinks like a republican which means you keep trying the same failed policy over and over.

Come on, if we had just given the Cuba embargo a little more time :mad:




The current drug laws suck, why didn't Obama fight for big change?




He has been.


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: Webster10]
    #23848003 - 11/19/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Because she has personally scoured those states and come up empty handed.  It's the same around here if you don't got the digits you're stuck dealing with some scrub that will rip you off 9/10 times.


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: koods]
    #23848004 - 11/19/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:
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qman said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

ohcrapitsnico said:
And now it's clear they've been a failure for all racial groups. What's your point?




His point is he thinks like a republican which means you keep trying the same failed policy over and over.

Come on, if we had just given the Cuba embargo a little more time :mad:




The current drug laws suck, why didn't Obama fight for big change?




He has been.



Wrong. There have been more federal raids on legal weed shops around the US under obama than there was under Bush.


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Re: Trump supporter goes on tirade (video MUST SEE) [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23848010 - 11/19/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
Because she has personally scoured those states and come up empty handed.  It's the same around here if you don't got the digits you're stuck dealing with some scrub that will rip you off 9/10 times.



Why do you believe your inability to find drugs and tendency to have shitty dealers is indicative of everyone else's ability to score and find good dealers?


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