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OfflineLucisM
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Britain Passes Extreme Surveillance Law * 2
    #23841842 - 11/17/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Britain has passed the 'most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy'

The law forces UK internet providers to store browsing histories -- including domains visited -- for one year, in case of police investigations.

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It's 2016 going on 1984.

The UK has just passed a massive expansion in surveillance powers, which critics have called "terrifying" and "dangerous".

The new law, dubbed the "snoopers' charter", was introduced by then-home secretary Theresa May in 2012, and took two attempts to get passed into law following breakdowns in the previous coalition government.

Four years and a general election later -- May is now prime minister -- the bill was finalized and passed on Wednesday by both parliamentary houses.

But civil liberties groups have long criticized the bill, with some arguing that the law will let the UK government "document everything we do online".

It's no wonder, because it basically does.

The law will force internet providers to record every internet customer's top-level web history in real-time for up to a year, which can be accessed by numerous government departments; force companies to decrypt data on demand -- though the government has never been that clear on exactly how it forces foreign firms to do that that; and even disclose any new security features in products before they launch.

Not only that, the law also gives the intelligence agencies the power to hack into computers and devices of citizens (known as equipment interference), although some protected professions -- such as journalists and medical staff -- are layered with marginally better protections.

In other words, it's the "most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy," according to Jim Killock, director of the Open Rights Group.

The bill was opposed by representatives of the United Nations, all major UK and many leading global privacy and rights groups, and a host of Silicon Valley tech companies alike. Even the parliamentary committee tasked with scrutinizing the bill called some of its provisions "vague".

And that doesn't even account for the three-quarters of people who think privacy, which this law almost entirely erodes, is a human right.

There are some safeguards, however, such as a "double lock" system so that the secretary of state and an independent judicial commissioner must agree on a decision to carry out search warrants (though one member of the House of Lords disputed that claim).

A new investigatory powers commissioner will also oversee the use of the powers.

Despite the uproar, the government's opposition failed to scrutinize any significant amendments and abstained from the final vote. Killock said recently that the opposition Labour party spent its time "simply failing to hold the government to account".

But the government has downplayed much of the controversy surrounding the bill. The government has consistently argued that the bill isn't drastically new, but instead reworks the old and outdated Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA). This was brought into law in 2000, to "legitimize" new powers that were conducted or ruled on in secret, like collecting data in bulk and hacking into networks, which was revealed during the Edward Snowden affair.

Much of those activities were only possible thanks to litigation by one advocacy group, Privacy International, which helped push these secret practices into the public domain while forcing the government to scramble to explain why these practices were legal.

The law will be ratified by royal assent in the coming weeks.


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Re: Britain Passes Extreme Surveillance Law [Re: Lucis] * 2
    #23841919 - 11/17/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I.would just leave that country and go live down
in the british virgin islands,just say fuck the whole
Program,leave it to the muslims


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Re: Britain Passes Extreme Surveillance Law [Re: 5150] * 1
    #23841933 - 11/17/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Having known someone who spies they get a lot of shit twisted up in their intel.

Nobody does counter intelligence for you better than the spy him or her self.

They fuck up a lot.

There trying to tackle encryption as well around the world.  Trying to make everybody visible and attack-able.


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Re: Britain Passes Extreme Surveillance Law [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #23842044 - 11/17/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Southpark's Troll Trace is slowly becoming reality :uhoh:


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Re: Britain Passes Extreme Surveillance Law [Re: musiclover420]
    #23842054 - 11/17/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Being a troll is not illegal unless it's menacing or intended to harass.  Lot's of people do that to a point were it's completely normal and ignored.


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Re: Britain Passes Extreme Surveillance Law [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23842062 - 11/17/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Morel Guy said:
Being a troll is not illegal unless it's menacing or intended to harass.  Lot's of people do that to a point were it's completely normal and ignored.



Quote:

Morel Guy said:
Being a troll is not illegal unless it's menacing or intended to harass.  Lot's of people do that to a point were it's completely normal and ignored.




I mean the tracing of people online.... Troll Trace is supposed to just be for trolls but they clearly have joked about anyone being able to use it.

This is not much different except instead of trolls they are targeting criminals and plenty of innocent people will no doubt get looked into as well...


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I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free


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Re: Britain Passes Extreme Surveillance Law [Re: musiclover420]
    #23842071 - 11/17/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone can be a criminal, just takes a law.

People not seeing anything from history is the frightening part.  Being a fugitive purely based on religion or race or political ideology is very possible.  Or for liking a plant, that one has gotten way out of control.


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Re: Britain Passes Extreme Surveillance Law [Re: Lucis]
    #23843422 - 11/17/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Same type of surveillance is coming to the United States at the end of the year. FBI with a warrant from any type of judge will be able to look through a users complete Internet history. Although this is already possible, this will be the first time the courts allow such expansion of powers by the FBI. Then again the NSA already does this and has been doing so without any judicial oversight what so ever.

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Re: Britain Passes Extreme Surveillance Law [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23843425 - 11/17/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Morel Guy said:
Anyone can be a criminal, just takes a law.




Edited by Faustoid (11/17/16 08:53 PM)

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Re: Britain Passes Extreme Surveillance Law [Re: Faustoid]
    #23843517 - 11/17/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

the FBI getting a warrant for one person would be a step forward considering they've set up nets in the past and grabbed the most lively fish...

what I'm worried about is people having real time access to your information
if saudi arabia had something like that they'd send the gestapo out

Edited by Konyap (11/17/16 09:20 PM)

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Re: Britain Passes Extreme Surveillance Law [Re: Konyap]
    #23843532 - 11/17/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

NSA can monitor the web in real time an even has a "preventative internet" should a worm or malicious virus attempt to infect government agency computers...this is all of course secret. When it comes to nation-state warfare though you would want to be hiding in the gov computer systems observing, but not raise any flags by causing damage that you are in the systems.

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Re: Britain Passes Extreme Surveillance Law [Re: tdubz]
    #23843545 - 11/17/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

there's a way to stop DDOS attacks
basically only allow computers connecting to your server a certain amount of bandwith per day

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