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ichugwindex
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I hear nobody has had
#23841880 - 11/17/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hear nobody has had "true" LSD-25 in over a decade, any truth to this? Someone told me that eerybody has either been doing research chems or LSA or other variants of LSD
Edited by ichugwindex (11/17/16 02:13 PM)
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No
How does someone know that there is no LSD when people test it? How does someone know what someone else is cooking?
Lot's of horseshit from horses mouths.
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Re: I hear nobody has had [Re: Morel Guy]
#23841943 - 11/17/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I thought it might be BS they were probably talking out their asses. They went on to talk about how the orginal formula had ben lost lol
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a simple marquis test is enough to disprove this idiot's claims
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Re: I hear nobody has had [Re: Morel Guy]
#23841951 - 11/17/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't believe every little bit of bullshit that anyone tells you.
Question everything.
Does that sound plausible to you? Have you done any research, and found evidence to suggest that were the case?
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It's a bullshit myth, nothing more.
Also logically speaking it doesn't make sense, if anything these days we have more tools, more technology and more skilled chemists able to whip up great quality L than we ever have before.
Sure we don't have Sandoz anymore but we definitely have real LSD-25.
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BANANA.MAN
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ichugwindex said: Yeah I thought it might be BS they were probably talking out their asses. They went on to talk about how the orginal formula had ben lost lol
You dont need a formula. You need a chemical formula/structure and knowledge of organic chemistry.
If you are a skilled enough organic chemist and you have the equiptment and chemicalsyou will be able to synthesize LSD following no guide. You just know where to put what.
In order to do it the most efficient, cheap way possile you would want to follow a procedure shared by someone who has done research on the best method.
But all people need to do is find out where to put what onnthe molecule and try a bunch of different methods which you would then compare for efficiency, and since we a are talking about clandestine drug labs, stealth.
Then they can post that online or share it with other chemists. Then boom LSD can be synthesized the best way we know of by chemists everywhere.
Also LSD and LSA have one similar quality wich is the electric body high. but they are so different. LSA sucks.
If there was no LSD and people were being sold LSA then more people woild say they are no different in effects.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (11/17/16 03:34 PM)
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You heard wrong. Very wrong.
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Re: I hear nobody has had [Re: Dark_Star]
#23842264 - 11/17/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think acid is usually made like meth. I have encountered bath tube acid from the hills of West Virginia. It was likely lysergic acid and was bad shit! Seems some hillbillies think rye ergot,fungus is the same as LSD. The problem with keeping crime segregated from real truth, people do bad things and nobody knows.
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Re: I hear nobody has had [Re: Morel Guy]
#23842298 - 11/17/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I assume you mean shake and bake meth made from easy to obtain materials.
Its not possible to synthesize LSD like shake and bake meth. LSD requires an intert atmosphere to be synthesized.
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Re: I hear nobody has had [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23842320 - 11/17/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just say'n I have heard and ran into some bath tube shit people dealt as LSD. People do that with rc's as well. But ya real verifried acid always exists.
The reason I don't do illegal drugs anymore, one is people sell shady shit.
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Re: I hear nobody has had [Re: Morel Guy]
#23842951 - 11/17/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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i think that now with darknet, there is more good LSD around then anytime since the hippie era.
When I tried the darknet LSD I was blown away by how strong it was, compared to the street acid I used to get which was probably no more than 60 micrograms per hit.
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Re: I hear nobody has had [Re: Morel Guy]
#23843047 - 11/17/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd question it. I'm pretty sure even owsley stuff wasn't actually LSD-25. Meaning LSD of the 25th synthesis that Albert Hoffman tried. Meaning unless its made to the tee as Albert Hoffman did on his 25th try at making something, then it is lysergic acid diethylamide. And not LSD of the 25 synthesis. It would be LSD of the peptide coupling synthesis, or LSD of one of Owsley's synthesis. So yes it is true there is LSD out there that is absolutely LSD and absolutely not LSD of hoffmans 25th synth. Although, that does not mean there are European labs producing LSD of hoffmans 25th synth, because there absolutely is.
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that's completely false; bullshit myth from years back. All LSD is LSD-25. Albert Hofmann was experimenting with making chemicals from ergot, and d-lysergic acid diethylamide was the 25 chemical in the series. That's where the 25 comes from. Has nothing to do with the way it's synthesized.
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Re: I hear nobody has had [Re: Dark_Star]
#23843285 - 11/17/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So its diethylamide 25? Is where the 25 comes from.
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Re: I hear nobody has had [Re: Dark_Star] 1
#23843864 - 11/18/16 12:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said:
that's completely false; bullshit myth from years back. All LSD is LSD-25. Albert Hofmann was experimenting with making chemicals from ergot, and d-lysergic acid diethylamide was the 25 chemical in the series. That's where the 25 comes from. Has nothing to do with the way it's synthesized.
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whitelights said: So its diethylamide 25? Is where the 25 comes from.
Dark star just told you
He said lysergic acid diethylamide was the 25th lysergamide compound that albert hoffman synthesized.
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Re: I hear nobody has had [Re: czech]
#23849220 - 11/19/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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czech said: a simple marquis test is enough to disprove this idiot's claims
It can be tough to differentiate between lysergimides with just an Erlich and Marquis alone. Ehrlich's will be the same and Marquis color will be very similar. This claim of substituted LSD been around since the 70's after the Sand and Scully trial. I doubt it is true, but with all legal lysergimides it wouldn't surprise me if this was true in some cases but I doubt even a majority is a substitute
Edited by UltraLiveResin (11/19/16 04:54 PM)
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Re: I hear nobody has had [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23850267 - 11/20/16 12:27 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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whitelights said: So its diethylamide 25? Is where the 25 comes from.
Dark star just told you
He said lysergic acid diethylamide was the 25th lysergamide compound that albert hoffman synthesized.
The 25 has nothing to do with the chemical structure and everything to do with the *history* of the chemical being synthesiszed.
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Not the case, ton of WOW around.. and strong doses.
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