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OfflineYaMoonSun
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Music Killer
    #23841390 - 11/17/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Is there a scientific reason why I haven't made a single song and have lost all interest in doing so after consuming magic mushrooms? I used to spend quite a few hours working on digital workstations to try to compose music, and now I don't feel the music anymore. In fact, it kind of pisses me off. Noise in general. How do I go from inspired musical artist, to annoyed at all sound?


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Re: Music Killer [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23841399 - 11/17/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Psychedelics have the opposite effect on me with music (and most people I think) so that sounds odd..
I'm also into composition.

Correlation doesn't imply causation, perhaps there's other factors at work here..


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Re: Music Killer [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23841405 - 11/17/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Did you listen to music on that specific trip? Maybe try microdosing.

Actually, after smoking cannabis i had misophonia, which is the hatred of certain noises.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23841438 - 11/17/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've never listened to music while tripping. I would listen to the wind, and compose music in my head in real-time. Prior to my psychedelic use I use to have auditory dreams that would sound so good they would get my heart pumping and wake me up because I wanted to dance/produce them so much. Now I don't give a flying fuck. I wish I did. I mean, I thought that was going to by my career. Only reason I did drugs is cause I was desperate to seek out permission from a God-like entity before I disfigured my genitals. Though, there is no entity, and I wasted my time, and now I'm masculine as fuck, and I feel like a dumb shit who want's to pursue alcoholism.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23841461 - 11/17/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I've never listened to music while tripping. I would listen to the wind, and compose music in my head in real-time. Prior to my psychedelic use I use to have auditory dreams that would sound so good they would get my heart pumping and wake me up because I wanted to dance/produce them so much. Now I don't give a flying fuck. I wish I did. I mean, I thought that was going to by my career. Only reason I did drugs is cause I was desperate to seek out permission from a God-like entity before I disfigured my genitals. Though, there is no entity, and I wasted my time, and now I'm masculine as fuck, and I feel like a dumb shit who want's to pursue alcoholism.



Sounds kind of like depression.

If i were you i would trip again on a very high dose and try to find out why.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23841465 - 11/17/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't wanna face my problems, fuck that shit. Too many of them.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23841476 - 11/17/16 11:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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YaMoonSun said:
I don't wanna face my problems, fuck that shit. Too many of them.



lol i can definitely understand that.
Sometimes things like this will happen to me and ill trip again on a high dose and kind of purge.
Thats just me though.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23841480 - 11/17/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I was told mescaline may solve my problems, but I'm pretty sure my adviser is a drug addict who couldn't relate if they wanted to.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23841489 - 11/17/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Never had any experience with mescaline.
I would either try DMT ayhuasca or a high dose of shrooms (upwards of 5 grams)


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Re: Music Killer [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23841497 - 11/17/16 12:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I actually promised to take 7g, but I'm a bit scared honestly. You ever try penis envy?


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Re: Music Killer [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23841500 - 11/17/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Take some LSD and some hash and get back on track.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23841503 - 11/17/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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YaMoonSun said:
I've never listened to music while tripping.




Never mind. I think we've identified the problem.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23841511 - 11/17/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I actually promised to take 7g, but I'm a bit scared honestly. You ever try penis envy?



Never tried penis envy, but i have taken almost the equivalent of pan cyans which are more potent than cubensis. (52-55 wet grams) 7 g's would be quite the adventure. I did mine in a completely dark room.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23841543 - 11/17/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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AuroraBorealis88 said:
Take some LSD and some hash and get back on track.



I smoke hash every day, and my morning glories are almost ready to harvest.

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I actually promised to take 7g, but I'm a bit scared honestly. You ever try penis envy?



Never tried penis envy, but i have taken almost the equivalent of pan cyans which are more potent than cubensis. (52-55 wet grams) 7 g's would be quite the adventure. I did mine in a completely dark room.



Been looking for those around my public parks. No luck as of yet.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23841557 - 11/17/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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YaMoonSun said:
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AuroraBorealis88 said:
Take some LSD and some hash and get back on track.



I smoke hash every day, and my morning glories are almost ready to harvest.

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YaMoonSun said:
I actually promised to take 7g, but I'm a bit scared honestly. You ever try penis envy?



Never tried penis envy, but i have taken almost the equivalent of pan cyans which are more potent than cubensis. (52-55 wet grams) 7 g's would be quite the adventure. I did mine in a completely dark room.



Been looking for those around my public parks. No luck as of yet.



I was talking about panaelous cyanescens i think your referring to psilocybe cyanescens so if those grow in your area pan cyans probably don't. Psilocybe cyanescens are also more potent than cubensis i think.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23841562 - 11/17/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Nailed it. You're accurate.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23841605 - 11/17/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Only reason I did drugs is cause I was desperate to seek out permission from a God-like entity before I disfigured my genitals.




Um, what the fuck? Please tell me that you didn't do this.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23841615 - 11/17/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Nailed it. You're accurate.



I would love to be able to hunt for some psilocybe wood lovers in florida.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23841621 - 11/17/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've never had LSA so I can't really say if they'll do what LSD can do for you. I don't know how good music sounds on it.

Psychedelics have also been known to change people's tastes in music so remember that.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23841629 - 11/17/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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YaMoonSun said:Only reason I did drugs is cause I was desperate to seek out permission from a God-like entity before I disfigured my genitals. Though, there is no entity, and I wasted my time, and now I'm masculine as fuck, and I feel like a dumb shit who want's to pursue alcoholism.




I think you either require more tripping or less. Or just a different psychedelic. Not everyone responds well to mushrooms whereas for some mushrooms are one of the only psychedelics they respond to and can understand.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23841645 - 11/17/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

my motivation to make music came back when I discontinued weed use.  I'll go back to weed at some point  because I'm much more content in life with it, but for now I'm going to make the best of my current motivation.  Maybe write an album or something and then get back to the stoned lifestyle later once I do a few of the things I was always just thinking about while stoned.  So maybe quit the hash for awhile and see what happens?

I Agree with the others who suggested a high dose trip. It may not even be enjoyable, but you'll make much more progress with it then doing routine low dose trips.  In fact, I think tripping or doing any drug routinely can keep you stuck...

Good luck...hope you find your inspiration


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Re: Music Killer [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23841647 - 11/17/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Only reason I did drugs is cause I was desperate to seek out permission from a God-like entity before I disfigured my genitals.




Um, what the fuck? Please tell me that you didn't do this.




to me this sounds like a troll thread


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Re: Music Killer [Re: unfortunategent]
    #23841665 - 11/17/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'll go back to weed at some point  because I'm much more content in life with it, but for now I'm going to make the best of my current motivation.  Maybe write an album or something and then get back to the stoned lifestyle later once I do a few of the things I was always just thinking about while stoned




Just don't pull a Terence McKenna and make the same "mistake" he did.

In other words don't make a shitty album that you don't realize is shitty until you finally take a puff of that good stuff again.
Or I guess more accurately; don't be surprised if that album doesn't sound so great when you start smoking weed again.
Sometimes even sobriety can be over-intoxicating.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23841691 - 11/17/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

well making a shitty album is better than making no album at all.  Just like doing something is better than doing nothing  as long as youre not hurting anyone else in the process.  And besides, the best way to progress in life is to learn from your mistakes.  If I make a shitty album, at least I'll have gotten it out and can move on..maybe to make a better one or even to realizing that music isn't my thing.  Then I'll put my efforts to something else.  Only way to find out is to do it though.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #23841715 - 11/17/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Is there a scientific reason why I haven't made a single song and have lost all interest in doing so after consuming magic mushrooms? I used to spend quite a few hours working on digital workstations to try to compose music, and now I don't feel the music anymore. In fact, it kind of pisses me off. Noise in general. How do I go from inspired musical artist, to annoyed at all sound?




Need better music now likely.  Trip more.  The mushrooms raise your game, eventually.  :dealwithit:


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Re: Music Killer [Re: unfortunategent]
    #23841754 - 11/17/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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well making a shitty album is better than making no album at all.




Debatable

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And besides, the best way to progress in life is to learn from your mistakes.  If I make a shitty album, at least I'll have gotten it out and can move on..maybe to make a better one or even to realizing that music isn't my thing.




Yeah that's why I put "mistake" in quotes because in some or most cases it was probably meant to be.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23843367 - 11/17/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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well making a shitty album is better than making no album at all.




Debatable




I mean at least regarding your own self, which is what we're talking about.  Self improvement.  But I understand what you're saying.  If it were physical thing, like actual trash, taking up physical space, which is limited, I'd agree with you...better not to add to the garbage heap.  But since Idealand is infinite, who cares if you need to expel some mental rubbish to get to the good stuff?


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Re: Music Killer [Re: unfortunategent]
    #23843734 - 11/17/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Some times even a shit album has a hit single


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Re: Music Killer [Re: Dark_Star]
    #23843817 - 11/17/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Only reason I did drugs is cause I was desperate to seek out permission from a God-like entity before I disfigured my genitals.




Um, what the fuck? Please tell me that you didn't do this.




Um, This! You ok buddy?  You know the alcoholism has to go right?  I mean, being healthy and living a poor life with nothing is better then being an active addict or alcoholic.  Maybe you drop the booze and your love for music will come back in like a few months then you can pursue it with clarity and vigor?  Only wishing you health !  Seek some help if you need a hand.  Dont give up ever.  Death comes anyways, so enjoy your damn time ok? Dont cut it short with the booze or with suicide. It'll end anyways and the pain in life will seem like a dream that never really happened, like the memory of last weeks breakfast ya know? I want you to fail and fail again and get stronger, and better from it with your music, that is the only way of the genuine musician.  Like I said it'll all be over soon, go for it, without the booze and self-destruction and hatred.  It'll feel lighter that way.  Been there man,  you got this.


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Re: Music Killer [Re: unfortunategent]
    #23843868 - 11/18/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I mean at least regarding your own self, which is what we're talking about.  Self improvement.  But I understand what you're saying.  If it were physical thing, like actual trash, taking up physical space, which is limited, I'd agree with you...better not to add to the garbage heap.  But since Idealand is infinite, who cares if you need to expel some mental rubbish to get to the good stuff?





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