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First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included)
    #23841086 - 11/17/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hello fellow Schroomers,

Noob in need for some advice/reassurance here.

So it's been almost one week after birthing my cakes (11.11.2016) and there's this kind of fuzzy white stuff growing (mycelium?) and no pins yet.
Fruiting chamber is in my wardrobe with only a small opening in a 150 square feet room (14m2), could this be the cause? bad fresh air exchange?
Should I open the windows to bring in new air? It's 50°F outside (10°C)

The jars were left fully colonized for about a month (was abroad)
Dunked for 24hours and rolled
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This is how my setup looks right now



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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23841121 - 11/17/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

that is indeed mycelium and it gets fuzzy from lack of FAE.

Try moving the fruiting chamber to into the room.

But if for legal reasons that u need to leave it in the closet, then leave as needed :shrug:

If u have to leave in closet, at least move into the middle of the closet.


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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23841530 - 11/17/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe run a small fan in the room next to the grow closet.


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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: freespeech]
    #23841993 - 11/17/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm no expert as I've only been doing this for about 4 months now.  However, they look fine to me there's always a bit more mycelium growth once going into your fruiting chamber.  If everything is within range you should start to see some pins in 4-5 days.

I run 4 PMPs hooked up to a 1200 gal pond pump so I dont need to worry about FAE at all and those look exactly like my cakes a few days before they pin.


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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23844044 - 11/18/16 02:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you LogicaL Chaos, freespeech & Dacauz for the feedback :thumbup:

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LogicaL Chaos said:
that is indeed mycelium and it gets fuzzy from lack of FAE.

Try moving the fruiting chamber to into the room.

But if for legal reasons that u need to leave it in the closet, then leave as needed :shrug:

If u have to leave in closet, at least move into the middle of the closet.




Yes, I need to leave it in the closet :grin:
Anyways cleared some space inside the closet, put it further away from the walls and will open the window couple times a day to let some fresh air in and leave it open.

Quote:

Maybe run a small fan in the room next to the grow closet.




I taught there should be no fan running near the fruiting chamber?
I have a computer running 24/7 in that room 10ft (3m) away from the closet if that changes anything.

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I'm no expert as I've only been doing this for about 4 months now.  However, they look fine to me there's always a bit more mycelium growth once going into your fruiting chamber.  If everything is within range you should start to see some pins in 4-5 days.

I run 4 PMPs hooked up to a 1200 gal pond pump so I dont need to worry about FAE at all and those look exactly like my cakes a few days before they pin.




Had to look up what PMP means :confused: sounds interesting, but I would preffer to get the basics right (as everyone suggests) and then move on to other methods, thank you for the input though, learned something new!


I'll try and post a daily pic so you guys can fallow the progression.
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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23844311 - 11/18/16 06:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

PMP stands for Pump. As in air pump. Not sure why it was shorten PMP but whatevas...

Its an old way of providing FAE and it doesnt work that well.


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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23845192 - 11/18/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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PMP stands for Pump. As in air pump. Not sure why it was shorten PMP but whatevas...

Its an old way of providing FAE and it doesnt work that well.




It's stands for the Poor man's Pod :thumbup:

Going to stick with the SGFC basics though.


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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23847428 - 11/19/16 02:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Is this a "healthy" amount of condensation?

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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp] * 2
    #23847452 - 11/19/16 03:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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pppp said:
Quote:

LogicaL Chaos said:
PMP stands for Pump. As in air pump. Not sure why it was shorten PMP but whatevas...

Its an old way of providing FAE and it doesnt work that well.




It's stands for the Poor man's Pod :thumbup:

Going to stick with the SGFC basics though.



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Bravo .... Fuckin Bravo... You are correct on the no fan with a sgfc, your set up is legit just needs to come away from the wall a bit... Your cakes look good, you want to keep them glistening like dew on the morning grass... Dont worry about fanning there are 500 holes in that fruiting chamber it will be fine... Good idea on opening the window for a while... I like this this person.

Oh yeah, you can toss that hygrometer shit out... If your perlite is hydrated and you mist when needed your RH is golden...


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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23847504 - 11/19/16 04:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

One smart noob here.
I agree with above poster, stick with it man.  PMPs and hygrometers are a waste of time and money.  If you follow the tek, mushrooms you will have :thumbup:
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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23847513 - 11/19/16 04:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Bravo .... Fuckin Bravo... You are correct on the no fan with a sgfc, your set up is legit just needs to come away from the wall a bit... Your cakes look good, you want to keep them glistening like dew on the morning grass... Dont worry about fanning there are 500 holes in that fruiting chamber it will be fine... Good idea on opening the window for a while... I like this this person.

Oh yeah, you can toss that hygrometer shit out... If your perlite is hydrated and you mist when needed your RH is golden...




Thank you for your input LocN9ne, glad you like me :blush:

I'm probably just being fucking impatient for those things to pop out.
(While listening to Ekhart Tolle audiobook...)

Hygrometer is out of this bitch :grin:

Moved it as far as possible from the closet walls, about 8" (20cm) and leaving the door open at all times now.



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One smart noob here.
I agree with above poster, stick with it man.  PMPs and hygrometers are a waste of time and money.  If you follow the tek, mushrooms you will have :thumbup:
Welcome




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Will do! Keep it up!


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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23850610 - 11/20/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23850637 - 11/20/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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PMP stands for Pump. As in air pump. Not sure why it was shorten PMP but whatevas...

Its an old way of providing FAE and it doesnt work that well.




It's stands for the Poor man's Pod :thumbup:

Going to stick with the SGFC basics though.




Well done!

I learned something new today. thanks new timer :thumbup:


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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23853283 - 11/21/16 04:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Could this possibly be what I might hopefully think it is ??????????
Pins?!

Only on one of the cakes yet.
Be patient young one...

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Will keep a close eye on this...


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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23853335 - 11/21/16 05:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yup!
Congrats young Jedi, that's a couple nice looking clusters you have :thumbup:
Keep doing whatever you are doing and soon you will be enjoying the fruits of your labor friend.
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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23853415 - 11/21/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

LogicaL Chaos said:
PMP stands for Pump. As in air pump. Not sure why it was shorten PMP but whatevas...

Its an old way of providing FAE and it doesnt work that well.



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A.RichardTrickle said:
One smart noob here.
I agree with above poster, stick with it man.  PMPs and hygrometers are a waste of time and money.  If you follow the tek, mushrooms you will have :thumbup:
Welcome




I dont know what all the hate is on PMPs.  If you build them properly and dont use a craptastic aquarium pump from petco they work great.

This is just half my pick from the other day.


And heres just 2 mushrooms from this morning's 2 cakes I picked. B+ on the bottom GT on the top.  As you can see they arent suffering from lack of FAE.


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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: Dacauz]
    #23853468 - 11/21/16 07:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

LogicaL Chaos said:
PMP stands for Pump. As in air pump. Not sure why it was shorten PMP but whatevas...

Its an old way of providing FAE and it doesnt work that well.



Quote:

A.RichardTrickle said:
One smart noob here.
I agree with above poster, stick with it man.  PMPs and hygrometers are a waste of time and money.  If you follow the tek, mushrooms you will have :thumbup:
Welcome




I dont know what all the hate is on PMPs.  If you build them properly and dont use a craptastic aquarium pump from petco they work great.

This is just half my pick from the other day.


And heres just 2 mushrooms from this morning's 2 cakes I picked. B+ on the bottom GT on the top.  As you can see they arent suffering from lack of FAE.




Nice fruits!  Not really anything out of the ordinary :shrug:
I do the same or better every cake grow I do without automation.

PMPs are a pain in the ass and unnecessary in a SGFC built to spec.
The idea with the SGFC is simplicity, ease of use and affordability, imo.  The cost of the pump air stone and hose I can build another SGFC, or better yet, a sab and up the game.
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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: Dacauz]
    #23854248 - 11/21/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yup!
Congrats young Jedi, that's a couple nice looking clusters you have :thumbup:
Keep doing whatever you are doing and soon you will be enjoying the fruits of your labor friend.
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Will do!
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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23856124 - 11/22/16 01:23 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Spotted some pins on the other cakes too, they are hard to see though because of the similar color with the vermiculite and mycelium mix.

These are the most advanced pins :cheers:

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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23856139 - 11/22/16 01:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hooray man!
The pinset looks great :grin:
Keep em watered well
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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23856140 - 11/22/16 01:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: Ultron]
    #23856570 - 11/22/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Hooray man!
The pinset looks great :grin:
Keep em watered well
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Thank you! Will do my very best :thumbup:

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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23856587 - 11/22/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

While a PMP can get some results it's about as dumb as driving a semi truck to the grocery store when you had a passenger car in your driveway


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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23856719 - 11/22/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23859260 - 11/23/16 01:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Birthday + 12 Days

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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23859660 - 11/23/16 06:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, that is bad.  I'd guess a mold of some variety.  See what one of the pros has to say, I think from my cake grows you can still get some fruit from that cake.  However I'd personally toss it after it flushes.
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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23862472 - 11/24/16 02:39 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Yes, that is bad.  I'd guess a mold of some variety.  See what one of the pros has to say, I think from my cake grows you can still get some fruit from that cake.  However I'd personally toss it after it flushes.
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Got this on 2 of my cakes. Should I still just leave them and see what happens or throw them away? Can't see any pins on them as well.


Will get a 6500k lamp to try it out, at the moment I have a random light bulb I had lying around no idea what luminosity it has etc.
This is the most advanced cake, some have only a couple pins yet or none to be seen.
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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23865487 - 11/25/16 08:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Birthday + 14 days


Got a couple 6500k bulbs and those are super bright!
Way more than my previous one, so let's hope for some positive improvement.
Also changed the setup, lowered the lights to heat up a bit the fruiting chamber.
Temperature were between 17°C (62°F) at night and only up to 20°C (68°F) during the day.
Put the hygrometer back in for thermal analysis only  :headbang:

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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23865848 - 11/25/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

dUDE... Its been 3 days sense i seen pins!(Last post)

Wheres the harvest?!


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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: Killerclowns87]
    #23866006 - 11/25/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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dUDE... Its been 3 days sense i seen pins!(Last post)

Wheres the harvest?!




I really don't know, they are growing SUPER slowly.
I took daily pics if you want to see the growth, but yeah I'm also wondering why


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Re: First Time Grower Cakes getting fuzzy in the fruiting chamber (+pics included) [Re: pppp]
    #23878001 - 11/29/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Do I have the privilege to have the slowest growing mushrooms ever?
They keep growing but at a ridiculous rate :confused:

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