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Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk?
    #23841077 - 11/17/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

1. Simple, do they have to consolidate or just be 100% colonized?

2. Is it preferable to consolidate or at least wait a couple days past colonization?

3. If I am ever forced to wait a few days to spawn, about how long can I wait without slowing the mycelium down when spawned.

Approx. window of opportunity?


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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23841080 - 11/17/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I think with the results you're getting off cakes, you should just keep doing that.


But yes let consolidate.


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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23841087 - 11/17/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

4 cakes gave me a little over 3/4 of an ounce dry. Not happy. I am going to still do them to refine my cake tek, but I want to do some mini mono's


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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23841103 - 11/17/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Typically, u consoldate *after* spawning and casing.

Consolidating is for cakes, not pre spawning.

Im curious what a pro grower says thou...


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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23841130 - 11/17/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:facepalm:

dont consolidate grain spawn, use it when its at its most aggressive.

for the future, rather trust the search engine, tc box ticked than advice given by randoms on the boards.
this has been asked a bunch of times, if you wanna know the full reasoning behind consolidation ask TCs in the search engine.

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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23841138 - 11/17/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

He's talking about spawning cakes to bulk.....


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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23841148 - 11/17/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I dont see where he does that but same goes for cakes, so it doesnt matter.
spawn when the myc is at its most aggressive.

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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23841181 - 11/17/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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He's talking about spawning cakes to bulk.....





whenever i've broken up pf cakes before letting them sit for 3-4 days after the jars are totally white,  there's always been a good portion of uncolonized brf in the center of the cake.  Consolidation for cakes is preferable.


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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: crackbaby]
    #23841190 - 11/17/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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He's talking about spawning cakes to bulk.....





whenever i've broken up pf cakes before letting them sit for 3-4 days after the jars are totally white,  there's always been a good portion of uncolonized brf in the center of the cake.  Consolidation for cakes is preferable.




Which is what I said in my first reply to this thread.


I have cakes that have been consolidating for two months now....


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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23841220 - 11/17/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I have 16 cakes that are beautiful. I will probably use them for 2 mini monos. I also have 12 quart jars that I G2G on Tuesday. Great looking recovery today, so those will probably go into monos soon two. This is all new area to me.


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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23841277 - 11/17/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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He's talking about spawning cakes to bulk.....




the OP was not clear about what jars were used :nonono:

But yes, consolidate PF jars before spawning cause colonizing the center of the PF cake takes awhile.

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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23841320 - 11/17/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

No you don't consolidate spawn weather it's cakes or grains you spawn as soon as it's ready consolidation is for fruiting substrates...if a cakes white on the outside it is inside.


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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: cronicr]
    #23841337 - 11/17/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid: the inside might look not so white, the bitch is definitely in there. When you break grains up its the same concept.


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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23841344 - 11/17/16 11:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

spawn = never consolidate
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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23841414 - 11/17/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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He's talking about spawning cakes to bulk.....




the OP was not clear about what jars were used :nonono:

But yes, consolidate PF jars before spawning cause colonizing the center of the PF cake takes awhile.




no it doesnt, myc grows in 3d, same speed every way so if you use 4 inoc points as the tek tells you to the center is colonized when the outside is white.
consolidation doesnt mean "waiting for inside to turn white", consolidation means the myc is consuming nutrition from the grains/brf without fruiting being initiated.

I just wanna re-iterate, use the search engine if you're in doubt over these basic things.

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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: spacechildo] * 1
    #23841419 - 11/17/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

or cut a cake in half and prove people wrong

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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23841553 - 11/17/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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or cut a cake in half and prove people wrong




i would like to see a photo of this.

I was under the assumption that when the outside of a cake is fully white, the inside is not quite all white but close, and consoldating completes the colonization while strenghtening the connections of the mycelium.

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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23841575 - 11/17/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The inside is white but as soon as you cut or break it open the mycelium contracts making it appear less colonized.

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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23841582 - 11/17/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

ah, so u cant know causes cutting open the cake makes it "less" colonized so to speak?

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Re: Do jars need to "consoilidate" before spawning to bulk? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23841603 - 11/17/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

We consolidate to let the myc digest a bit as cakes are very nutritious


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