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What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion)
    #23841055 - 11/17/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

A question I have been pondering,

To any experienced phsyconauts out there....

I am interested in doing a heroic dose of Pan. Cyanescens ( 3.5g dried )



What is it like to do a 'heroic does'?

What actually classifies a heroic does?

What would happen if you did 20-40 grams dried???


And if any of you have had a spectacular, vivid heroic trip then please describe your experience!


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: SporeDaddy]
    #23841062 - 11/17/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Work your way up slowly.


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: sunshine]
    #23841066 - 11/17/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

My "heroic" dose for pan cyanescens was 52 grams wet so around 5 g dry. That was my third dose of mushrooms.
I sat in a dark room, and it was very very vivid and intense.


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23841101 - 11/17/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't tried any heroic doses of pan cyans but I'll tell you don't over do any psilocybin containing mushrooms the last heroic dose I took will be the last..
I was 15 at the time and i took 3 g and another 3 g after 1 hour of ingestion of the others soon I was laying on my couch feeling tired and as if my head was made of lead
every time I laid my head down to try to sleep I would have about a 20 second seizure I had about 15 before I got off the couch and tried to function ...
About 10 min later I found myself lying in bed staring at the ceiling and out of nowhere the walls and ceiling spiraled into blackness
I held out my hands to see if i was still in my body
Sure enough no I was not so I started wondering where I was when a dark and gloomy voice kept saying how I needed to kill myself and my family
I knew why I was there and what had taken me there so i waited it out and once I remember being back in my body I went into my sisters room and got her iPod and went downstairs to do what "normal people do"
I watched tv and listened to music for hours and the clock stood still not not a single minute passed while I watched episode after episode of family guy .. just my two cents on heroic doses if you want to go big slowly make your way up don't just go bold it can be risky as all hell but without that negative I wouldn't be as blessed with understanding the positive you need the bad to see the good ~  mate dawg


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: natedawg]
    #23841111 - 11/17/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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natedawg said:
I haven't tried any heroic doses of pan cyans but I'll tell you don't over do any psilocybin containing mushrooms the last heroic dose I took will be the last..
I was 15 at the time and i took 3 g and another 3 g after 1 hour of ingestion of the others soon I was laying on my couch feeling tired and as if my head was made of lead
every time I laid my head down to try to sleep I would have about a 20 second seizure I had about 15 before I got off the couch and tried to function ...
About 10 min later I found myself lying in bed staring at the ceiling and out of nowhere the walls and ceiling spiraled into blackness
I held out my hands to see if i was still in my body
Sure enough no I was not so I started wondering where I was when a dark and gloomy voice kept saying how I needed to kill myself and my family
I knew why I was there and what had taken me there so i waited it out and once I remember being back in my body I went into my sisters room and got her iPod and went downstairs to do what "normal people do"
I watched tv and listened to music for hours and the clock stood still not not a single minute passed while I watched episode after episode of family guy .. just my two cents on heroic doses if you want to go big slowly make your way up don't just go bold it can be risky as all hell but without that negative I wouldn't be as blessed with understanding the positive you need the bad to see the good ~  mate dawg



Don't blame the mushrooms. All they did was trigger an underlying psychotic episode of a condition you already had. ESPECIALLY if you had seizures.
This exactly happened to a friend of mine and he turned out to be schizophrenic
not saying you are, but it's possible you have either that or something else.


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23841161 - 11/17/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't blame them at all in fact i love mushrooms they have alot to teach and i have taken much much more mushies than that since its just that one batch from my buddie was seriously fucking wierd I had atleast 7 friends take the same batch and experience similar experience ime: seizures and a delerious state of mind I have never had any other mushrooms trigger seizures and i have taken them atleast 400 times since then it was definitely part the mushrooms triggering something in my brain but those specific mush were the only ones to ever cause such reactions !!!


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: natedawg]
    #23841166 - 11/17/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

natedawg said:
I don't blame them at all in fact i love mushrooms they have alot to teach and i have taken much much more mushies than that since its just that one batch from my buddie was seriously fucking wierd I had atleast 7 friends take the same batch and experience similar experience ime: seizures and a delerious state of mind I have never had any other mushrooms trigger seizures and i have taken them atleast 400 times since then it was definitely part the mushrooms triggering something in my brain but those specific mush were the only ones to ever cause such reactions !!!



That's interesting. Possibly a poisonous species? I have absolutely no idea.


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23841175 - 11/17/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Dmt_psilocybin said:
Quote:

natedawg said:
I haven't tried any heroic doses of pan cyans but I'll tell you don't over do any psilocybin containing mushrooms the last heroic dose I took will be the last..
I was 15 at the time and i took 3 g and another 3 g after 1 hour of ingestion of the others soon I was laying on my couch feeling tired and as if my head was made of lead
every time I laid my head down to try to sleep I would have about a 20 second seizure I had about 15 before I got off the couch and tried to function ...
About 10 min later I found myself lying in bed staring at the ceiling and out of nowhere the walls and ceiling spiraled into blackness
I held out my hands to see if i was still in my body
Sure enough no I was not so I started wondering where I was when a dark and gloomy voice kept saying how I needed to kill myself and my family
I knew why I was there and what had taken me there so i waited it out and once I remember being back in my body I went into my sisters room and got her iPod and went downstairs to do what "normal people do"
I watched tv and listened to music for hours and the clock stood still not not a single minute passed while I watched episode after episode of family guy .. just my two cents on heroic doses if you want to go big slowly make your way up don't just go bold it can be risky as all hell but without that negative I wouldn't be as blessed with understanding the positive you need the bad to see the good ~  mate dawg



Don't blame the mushrooms. All they did was trigger an underlying psychotic episode of a condition you already had. ESPECIALLY if you had seizures.
This exactly happened to a friend of mine and he turned out to be schizophrenic
not saying you are, but it's possible you have either that or something else.


also I have had many cat scans on my brain and it functions perfectly normally no underlying issues that have been found yetbut I wouldn't be suprised if there was something that was missed there has always been schizophrenia in my family so i wouldnt doubt it ! Just be safe taking doses that you have no idea how they affect your brain even if you are of perfect health and of perfect mental state I've never had anything like it happen through all the houndreds and houndreds of times i have taken them thanks for the input
dmt! Always appreciated


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23841182 - 11/17/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Dmt_psilocybin said:
Quote:

natedawg said:
I don't blame them at all in fact i love mushrooms they have alot to teach and i have taken much much more mushies than that since its just that one batch from my buddie was seriously fucking wierd I had atleast 7 friends take the same batch and experience similar experience ime: seizures and a delerious state of mind I have never had any other mushrooms trigger seizures and i have taken them atleast 400 times since then it was definitely part the mushrooms triggering something in my brain but those specific mush were the only ones to ever cause such reactions !!!



That's interesting. Possibly a poisonous species? I have absolutely no idea.



Very well could be a toxin that was hiding in the mush but even so I'm appreciative of the trip it taught me alot about myself ..


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: natedawg]
    #23841442 - 11/17/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have done a trip of 3.5g trip of Cubensis (Golden Teacher), it was a good experience. Other than the fact that i was going in and out of what felt like sleep and one at point, anytime i had my eyes open my peripherals were pulsing inwards and in a green tint almost. Plus the lights were on and i was slumped into the couch with my buddy also tripping. Lol we were watching The Voice, kinda like american idol, but it looked/sounded crazy while tripping.

Any how, I know Copelandias are like 2-3x more potent than Cubes, so i can only imagine what 3.5g will be like.:smokinacandycane:


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: SporeDaddy]
    #23841450 - 11/17/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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SporeDaddy said:
I have done a trip of 3.5g trip of Cubensis (Golden Teacher), it was a good experience. Other than the fact that i was going in and out of what felt like sleep and one at point, anytime i had my eyes open my peripherals were pulsing inwards and in a green tint almost. Plus the lights were on and i was slumped into the couch with my buddy also tripping. Lol we were watching The Voice, kinda like american idol, but it looked/sounded crazy while tripping.

Any how, I know Copelandias are like 2-3x more potent than Cubes, so i can only imagine what 3.5g will be like.:smokinacandycane:



Idk about 2-3x more potent, but they are slightly.
usually a "heroic" dose is for spiritual reasons and over 5 grams of cubensis. But potency varies between mushrooms.


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23841506 - 11/17/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Idk about 2-3x more potent, but they are slightly.
usually a "heroic" dose is for spiritual reasons and over 5 grams of cubensis. But potency varies between mushrooms.




Im actually pretty sure that Panaeolus Cyanescens is on average 2-3 times more potent than Psilocybe Cubensis.

Also i am wanting to do heroic dose not for fun or enjoyment, though it may be, i want to better my spirituality with myself. Im not very religious but i believe in some deep stuff, sorta a mix of science belief and Buddhism, just want to use a heroic dose to see 'deeper' maybe have a new way of thinking:hatsoff:


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: SporeDaddy]
    #23841516 - 11/17/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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SporeDaddy said:
Quote:

Idk about 2-3x more potent, but they are slightly.
usually a "heroic" dose is for spiritual reasons and over 5 grams of cubensis. But potency varies between mushrooms.




Im actually pretty sure that Panaeolus Cyanescens is on average 2-3 times more potent than Psilocybe Cubensis.

Also i am wanting to do heroic dose not for fun or enjoyment, though it may be, i want to better my spirituality with myself. Im not very religious but i believe in some deep stuff, sorta a mix of science belief and Buddhism, just want to use a heroic dose to see 'deeper' maybe have a new way of thinking:hatsoff:



After mine it has definitely improved me in all ways. Can't tell you 100% on the exact amount of potency but if i were you i would take upwards of 5 grams for a heroic dose and that was my third time taking mushrooms. That's just me though, i really wanted to dive into it.


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23841544 - 11/17/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If only we could tell the potency easily... Glad to hear your experience really benefited you in all ways, I will test the Copes starting at 1 g and then work up to an eighth if it is not as potent as i assume lol


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: SporeDaddy]
    #23841552 - 11/17/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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If only we could tell the potency easily... Glad to hear your experience really benefited you in all ways, I will test the Copes starting at 1 g and then work up to an eighth if it is not as potent as i assume lol



Good idea if you have a good supply of them.


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Re: What Would it be Like? (Heroic Dose Discussion) [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
    #23844413 - 11/18/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Recall the most humble you have been, then double it and I would imagine it may be close to 'what it would be like'

Try a few 5g Cubensis doses. You say your 3.5g trip was watching American idol-like tv show? Lmfao why would you ever waste your time on that tripping or not, seriously go outside


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