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Even if it's true that a population of individuals illegitimately reviewed publications it doesn't mean all science in the world is wrong.
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it is obvious that people are losing interest in your faked up science religion
Now transmit this message to us without using a technological device created through using the scientific method.
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Re: Flaws in the theory of evolution [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#23842719 - 11/17/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Crazy_Horse said: Get with it gramps, peer review and science are out. Wild speculation is in. you are what's known as a dinosaur.

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OrgoneConclusion said:
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it is obvious that people are losing interest in your faked up science religion
Now transmit this message to us without using a technological device created through using the scientific method.
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Re: Flaws in the theory of evolution [Re: sudly]
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some of you have degrees or are studying for one, and sure, you want to think you have it all or mostly figured out... you dont, your piece of paper and misguided explorations are worthless, and if you think you learned something because you do stuff and have a job and make a thing then good for you, because the reality is you are a tool of your own oppression, mixing truth and lies to further the confusion that agitates man into emotional reaction, justifying their devious, corrupt protocol, institutionalizing anger in the form of an unasked question, an answer avoided.
if you are a productive part of this society, you are part of the problems you have with it. if you think society in general is alright, then you are an ignore-ant, blissfully bouncing along doing your part in curating the museum of suffering.
science journals are the speartip of religious science, not so gently shaping the narrative, not so secretly tamping down incongruent thought, specializing to avoid the big picture, because overall it looks pretty ragged.
as for the "typing on a computer" monkey squawk, applied science is a different subject. the problem comes when engineers try to apply data from fraudulent or incompetent scientists, they cannot reproduce the results. this happens frequently. so then what about science that cannot be lab reproduced, like solar system formation forces? well, you just take their word for it, you have belief in the messenger, therefore, a religion. especially when that person is held up as an unassailable authority.
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in any population of a specific species you should expect to observe a wide range of expression of features such as hair color, texture, thickness, extent or sparseness, tooth size and alignment, muscle development, skin texture and color, eye size, color or capability, as well as brain functions.
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Search Results: "percent difference between human and chimp dna" The recent sequencing of the gorilla, chimpanzee and bonobo genomes confirms that supposition and provides a clearer view of how we are connected: chimps and bonobos in particular take pride of place as our nearest living relatives, sharing approximately 99 percent of our DNA, with gorillas trailing at 98 percent
this is not too surprising, as many humans do look a lot like chimps except for the big toe, word articulation capability, and overall hair distribution.
for intelligence I look for the ability to latch on to concepts, and to let go of them easily - to consider relevant things as conditions change. Just like the prehensile tail and opposing thumb, a prehensile mind lets you swing through concepts as needed.
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Re: Flaws in the theory of evolution [Re: redgreenvines]
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Sorry i had to get a troll punch in
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Re: Flaws in the theory of evolution [Re: numnum59] 1
#23843207 - 11/17/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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funny when the OP is gone, who actually had some openness New believers appear like mushrooms after a rain ...
Who have a double standard or are confused on a deeper level, about what constitutes an explaination. Supposedly religion explains and provides answers to all important questions, but all it really does is say: " God did it all, so stop asking". Then the religious folks swallow this illogical story, seemingly because it allows them to feel secure. It partly helps them feel securer, because all their friends say the same thing. It is like: as if dogs had hands and they were petting each other all the time. So soothing.
So they convince themselves everything has been explained perfectly, and that therefore any contrary evidence must be wrong. It is really a fanatical or arthritic mindset, but passes as normal, in everyday society. Until another religious war breaks out, and all the outsiders can see how silly they are.
So it is because they assume incorrectly not only that everything has been explained, but that their particular brand of religion has THE ONLY RIGHT explanation that they feel they can accurately judge even those things they don’t understand.
This immense arrogance and self righteousness, (to which they are of course totally blind), is what frequently allows them to murder, and torture, (as in the inquisition & closer to home the Salem witch trials - for example).
Not until the time comes to be cured of a genetic disease, or get off of a death row sentence because of DNA evidence, is there much chance for most of them to understand the power of any mind that choses reason over belief.
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Re: Flaws in the theory of evolution [Re: laughingdog]
#23843251 - 11/17/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This may be a better way of self expression than religion.
The Southern Thunderdome of America in Delaware where the annual CZW Tournament of Death takes place in an act of respectable violence. It kicks off from 19:00 on.
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nothing exists said: some of you have degrees or are studying for one, and sure, you want to think you have it all or mostly figured out... you dont, your piece of paper and misguided explorations are worthless, and if you think you learned something because you do stuff and have a job and make a thing then good for you, because the reality is you are a tool of your own oppression, mixing truth and lies to further the confusion that agitates man into emotional reaction, justifying their devious, corrupt protocol, institutionalizing anger in the form of an unasked question, an answer avoided.
if you are a productive part of this society, you are part of the problems you have with it. if you think society in general is alright, then you are an ignore-ant, blissfully bouncing along doing your part in curating the museum of suffering.
science journals are the speartip of religious science, not so gently shaping the narrative, not so secretly tamping down incongruent thought, specializing to avoid the big picture, because overall it looks pretty ragged.
as for the "typing on a computer" monkey squawk, applied science is a different subject. the problem comes when engineers try to apply data from fraudulent or incompetent scientists, they cannot reproduce the results. this happens frequently. so then what about science that cannot be lab reproduced, like solar system formation forces? well, you just take their word for it, you have belief in the messenger, therefore, a religion. especially when that person is held up as an unassailable authority.
A word salad with no substance.
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What if op was god testing our faith in him? 0_0
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DividedQuantum said: 1. Man lost his fur to keep his brain from overheating. The need to keep a cool head is what made us the naked ape. We do not know for sure why we lost our primate strength, but it is theorized that since the human brain has much higher energy requirements, our muscles had to lose out in our development.
2. As the poster above said, humans evolved in a more or less equatorial/tropical environment. The temperature was in an ideal range all year long. Northern tribes in Europe, for example, developed a cultural evolution in habitat technology to remain alive in colder climes after migrating there for whatever reason.
3. Man in his natural state does not cultivate food or engage in farming of any kind. When agriculture appeared in the Fertile Crescent ~10,000 ya, it was a cultural change, not a biological one. We do not know why agriculture formed in the way that it did, because it is a much more difficult way to make a living than foraging. Some think it was population pressure, some think it was an ideological revolution -- we simply don't know. But ultimately the answer to your question is that we engage in it, in part, because we are the only species with the brains and the opposable thumbs to do so. How it began remains a mystery.
"There you go, man, keep as cool as you can."?
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Re: Flaws in the theory of evolution [Re: numnum59]
#23844373 - 11/18/16 07:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haha man this is great reading. After some reading and watching i can see that evolution or adaptation basically the same thing are not what i was picking at but perhaps the theory created by darwin. The idea that whales came from a leopard looking creature was far fetched to me, many many different answers that i couldnt link to eachother.
I wanna know who figured out how to tell the age of rocks. one site said we have been here 56,000,000 years another stated 2.3 billions years and another said life didnt form till 100,000,000 millions years go...
How the fuck do they know? Someone just built a device that can read the age of anything? i get that looking at the side of a mountain and seeing the different layers of settlement can tell age like the rings on a tree maybe? But 2.3 billions years? Really?
If you go back a simple 1000 years we were killing eachother with sticks and stones and now we have a scope that can zero a target going 50+ mph at 300 yards in under 3 seconds lmao. Nuclear weapons that can wipe out the planet. I find it hard to believe that were that old when our history happend so fast.
Sudly: i love that you bring bear grills into it. Very very few people can live like bear grills. Its estimated that if a emp was to hit our main power grid (chicago area) that half of the population of the united states would be dead by next year. I know for a fact growing up hunting and fishing that 95% of people around my city would die withing a month. You would be suprised how much people dont know anout basic survival yet everyone can sit their and say ahh thats not so hard haha. I have literally watched my friends come with me in a hunting trip, kill something. Squirrel, deer, pigs, birds, even fish. And ruin what they killed trying to skin it, literally couldnt eat cause thy butchered it so bad. How many people living in th city can go kill and properly skin a animal?
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Re: Flaws in the theory of evolution [Re: TFI]
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Carbon dating. Knowing the half life of carbon and being able to read it or some shit like that
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Re: Flaws in the theory of evolution [Re: numnum59]
#23844538 - 11/18/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Flaws in the theory of evolution [Re: TFI]
#23844560 - 11/18/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do they have schools in your country?
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Re: Flaws in the theory of evolution [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#23844728 - 11/18/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol i wonder how we survived without google
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Re: Flaws in the theory of evolution [Re: TFI]
#23845670 - 11/18/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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why do people argue about what they don't understand?
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1) because they don't understand it. and 2) because they think they do
they don't argue with Enistein,'s "theory" of relativity because they know they don't understand it but they do argue with Darwins "theory" because they think they do
No one even knows precisely what life is conceptually. But we do know that inside the cell are molecular machines not mysterious squishy protoplasm energized by a mysterious life force but nanoscale machines getting energy from biochemical reactions that are understood by very high IQ, highly educated people
and there are many more such amazing videos.
So we do know enough to understand that the physical body is literally a machine, and we do know enough to alter DNA now and cure a few genetic diseases, and shortly many more will be cured. There is no doubt that the body is a machine, and as such subject to cause and effect both in regards to it's origin and inevitable death. With the advent of cloning and now CRISPR a biological revolution is about to begin that will alter life as much as the computer has done in the last 30 years, or more so. It is under reported because news media prefers: war, murder, politics, and other such stupidity. And the media knows most people like to exercise their preexisting opinions rather than make the effort to learn something new.
Science news sites such as
https://www.sciencedaily.com/breaking/
may help one keep up with the dramatic changes, that will continue to accelerate.
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Re: Flaws in the theory of evolution [Re: laughingdog]
#23845715 - 11/18/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't forget about the invention of genetically modified glow in the dark jellyfish sheep back in 2013.
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Re: Flaws in the theory of evolution [Re: laughingdog] 1
#23846063 - 11/18/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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the physical body is literally a machine
No it isn't.
It is an organism; or as Alan Watts put it, an organismenvironment
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