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afflictis
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Spawning grain
#23840264 - 11/16/16 10:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I made a thread a few weeks ago asking about spawning before jars are 100% colonized. These jars have been kinda stuck for about 2 weeks maybe 2 and a half. It was a g2g transfer from a fully colonized wbs jar. I was thinking about separating the uncolored parts and using the colonized to spawn into some tubs. Anyone have thoughts these are the most colonized jars I have atm
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tump
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Im going to make this simple. They are stuck for a reason. That being said i have done so in the past. Make trays not tubs and they will surprise you with a flush or two. Tubs are more risky just treat every jar as special
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afflictis
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Re: Spawning grain [Re: tump]
#23840305 - 11/16/16 10:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm thinking the moisture content wasn't enough but they don't show signs of contams
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Re: Spawning grain [Re: afflictis] 1
#23840308 - 11/16/16 10:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should shake those things.
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afflictis
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Re: Spawning grain [Re: cronicr]
#23840310 - 11/16/16 10:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: You should shake those things.
I made 7 shook one and it never recovered it was about 30%
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Moabfighter
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If it never recovered, you have problems.
If you're scared to shake because you think it'll not work, you have problems.
Learn agar.
I absolutely wasted a year at this hobby by not making pasty plates from the start. Clean spawn is the key to success. Cubensis in poor conditions usually has 100% biological efficiency, if not 200-250 under good conditions.
You're only hindering yourself by making the choice to not learn agar and instead dona very risk of the dice using multispore.
My .02 cents.
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afflictis
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Moabfighter said: If it never recovered, you have problems.
If you're scared to shake because you think it'll not work, you have problems.
Learn agar.
I absolutely wasted a year at this hobby by not making pasty plates from the start. Clean spawn is the key to success. Cubensis in poor conditions usually has 100% biological efficiency, if not 200-250 under good conditions.
You're only hindering yourself by making the choice to not learn agar and instead dona very risk of the dice using multispore.
My .02 cents.
I started agar a week ago made 4 plates all are contamed going to start new ones in a few days in the meantime I was going to try to get something out of the jars I have now
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Moabfighter
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afflictis said:
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Moabfighter said: If it never recovered, you have problems.
If you're scared to shake because you think it'll not work, you have problems.
Learn agar.
I absolutely wasted a year at this hobby by not making pasty plates from the start. Clean spawn is the key to success. Cubensis in poor conditions usually has 100% biological efficiency, if not 200-250 under good conditions.
You're only hindering yourself by making the choice to not learn agar and instead dona very risk of the dice using multispore.
My .02 cents.
I started agar a week ago made 4 plates all are contamed going to start new ones in a few days in the meantime I was going to try to get something out of the jars I have now
Fuck em. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
Don't waste your time with half ass results anymore. Wait another couple weeks, a month, even two. You'll be alright. That side cash you're making, or those trips you're having, you'll be alright without for a month.
If you disagree, you're very much not ready to seriously take this hobby on.
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afflictis
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Moabfighter said:
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afflictis said:
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Moabfighter said: If it never recovered, you have problems.
If you're scared to shake because you think it'll not work, you have problems.
Learn agar.
I absolutely wasted a year at this hobby by not making pasty plates from the start. Clean spawn is the key to success. Cubensis in poor conditions usually has 100% biological efficiency, if not 200-250 under good conditions.
You're only hindering yourself by making the choice to not learn agar and instead dona very risk of the dice using multispore.
My .02 cents.
I started agar a week ago made 4 plates all are contamed going to start new ones in a few days in the meantime I was going to try to get something out of the jars I have now
Fuck em. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
Don't waste your time with half ass results anymore. Wait another couple weeks, a month, even two. You'll be alright. That side cash you're making, or those trips you're having, you'll be alright without for a month.
If you disagree, you're very much not ready to seriously take this hobby on.
ok so out of the 4 plates I made this seems to have the only spit that might be viable. 3 o'clock from the center there seems to be a wedge. Is that worth trying to transfer or should I start over
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TheMadHatter420
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Hey with those jars, you could always throw a casing layer on top and fruit straight from the jars. Would get you something without risking very much.
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afflictis
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TheMadHatter420 said: Hey with those jars, you could always throw a casing layer on top and fruit straight from the jars. Would get you something without risking very much.
add a layer inside and let them grow out the top?
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Shake the jars dude ..if they recover great if not oh well.
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TheMadHatter420
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Yes, if you are afraid they are contaminated with bacteria, and that is stalling them, then you can throw a casing layer inside the jar Then put a clear plastic bag tent over it, loosely, maybe with a few small holes. They still need FAE you know. Then simply mist and fruit out of the jars. Those jars have been stalled for a while. The only things I can see doing it is bacteria, OR lack of GE. Looking at your lids I am wondering what you got going on for GE. Are those lids just loose for GE? Did I miss something in lid for the GE?
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afflictis
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Tight lids hole in top with microtape
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Re: Spawning grain [Re: cronicr]
#23840698 - 11/17/16 04:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: You should shake those things.
Shake the fuck out of them. They can take the beating trust me.
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they are obviously bacterial to the point that any hope of spawning to a monotub should be abandonded (it could work, but most likely won't)...when i get jars like this i take a spoon and dig out a little space in the jar that will allow all the uncolonized grain to be dumped out, then bang the jar against a tire to break up all the colonized grain and use it for cased trays
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crackbaby said: they are obviously bacterial to the point that any hope of spawning to a monotub should be abandonded (it could work, but most likely won't)...when i get jars like this i take a spoon and dig out a little space in the jar that will allow all the uncolonized grain to be dumped out, then bang the jar against a tire to break up all the colonized grain and use it for cased trays
I see no metabolites or anything other then jars that weren't shaken properly at g2g....shake them.
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