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Spawning grain
    #23840264 - 11/16/16 10:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

So I made a thread a few weeks ago asking about spawning before jars are 100% colonized. These jars have been kinda stuck for about 2 weeks maybe 2 and a half. It was a g2g transfer from a fully colonized wbs jar. I was thinking about separating the uncolored parts and using the colonized to spawn into some tubs. Anyone have thoughts these are the most colonized jars I have atm


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Re: Spawning grain [Re: afflictis]
    #23840280 - 11/16/16 10:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Im going to make this simple. They are stuck for a reason. That being said i have done so in the past. Make trays not tubs and they will surprise you with a flush or two. Tubs are more risky just treat every jar as special

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Re: Spawning grain [Re: tump]
    #23840305 - 11/16/16 10:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm thinking the moisture content wasn't enough but they don't show signs of contams

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Re: Spawning grain [Re: afflictis] * 1
    #23840308 - 11/16/16 10:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You should shake those things.


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Re: Spawning grain [Re: cronicr]
    #23840310 - 11/16/16 10:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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You should shake those things.


I made 7 shook one and it never recovered it was about 30%

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Re: Spawning grain [Re: afflictis]
    #23840341 - 11/16/16 10:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

If it never recovered, you have problems.

If you're scared to shake because you think it'll not work, you have problems.


Learn agar.

I absolutely wasted a year at this hobby by not making pasty plates from the start. Clean spawn is the key to success. Cubensis in poor conditions usually has 100% biological efficiency, if not 200-250 under good conditions.

You're only hindering yourself by making the choice to not learn agar and instead dona very risk of the dice using multispore.


My .02 cents.


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Re: Spawning grain [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23840352 - 11/16/16 11:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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If it never recovered, you have problems.

If you're scared to shake because you think it'll not work, you have problems.


Learn agar.

I absolutely wasted a year at this hobby by not making pasty plates from the start. Clean spawn is the key to success. Cubensis in poor conditions usually has 100% biological efficiency, if not 200-250 under good conditions.

You're only hindering yourself by making the choice to not learn agar and instead dona very risk of the dice using multispore.


My .02 cents.


I started agar a week ago made 4 plates all are contamed going to start new ones in a few days in the meantime I was going to try to get something out of the jars I have now

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Re: Spawning grain [Re: afflictis]
    #23840365 - 11/16/16 11:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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afflictis said:
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Moabfighter said:
If it never recovered, you have problems.

If you're scared to shake because you think it'll not work, you have problems.


Learn agar.

I absolutely wasted a year at this hobby by not making pasty plates from the start. Clean spawn is the key to success. Cubensis in poor conditions usually has 100% biological efficiency, if not 200-250 under good conditions.

You're only hindering yourself by making the choice to not learn agar and instead dona very risk of the dice using multispore.


My .02 cents.


I started agar a week ago made 4 plates all are contamed going to start new ones in a few days in the meantime I was going to try to get something out of the jars I have now





Fuck em. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

Don't waste your time with half ass results anymore. Wait another couple weeks, a month, even two. You'll be alright. That side cash you're making, or those trips you're having, you'll be alright without for a month.

If you disagree, you're very much not ready to seriously take this hobby on.


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Re: Spawning grain [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23840395 - 11/16/16 11:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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afflictis said:
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Moabfighter said:
If it never recovered, you have problems.

If you're scared to shake because you think it'll not work, you have problems.


Learn agar.

I absolutely wasted a year at this hobby by not making pasty plates from the start. Clean spawn is the key to success. Cubensis in poor conditions usually has 100% biological efficiency, if not 200-250 under good conditions.

You're only hindering yourself by making the choice to not learn agar and instead dona very risk of the dice using multispore.


My .02 cents.


I started agar a week ago made 4 plates all are contamed going to start new ones in a few days in the meantime I was going to try to get something out of the jars I have now





Fuck em. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

Don't waste your time with half ass results anymore. Wait another couple weeks, a month, even two. You'll be alright. That side cash you're making, or those trips you're having, you'll be alright without for a month.

If you disagree, you're very much not ready to seriously take this hobby on.


ok so out of the 4 plates I made this seems to have the only spit that might be viable. 3 o'clock from the center there seems to be a wedge. Is that worth trying to transfer or should I start over

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Re: Spawning grain [Re: afflictis]
    #23840405 - 11/16/16 11:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hey with those jars, you could always throw a casing layer on top and fruit straight from the jars. Would get you something without risking very much.


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Re: Spawning grain [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23840418 - 11/16/16 11:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey with those jars, you could always throw a casing layer on top and fruit straight from the jars. Would get you something without risking very much.


add a layer inside and let them grow out the top?

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Re: Spawning grain [Re: TheMadHatter420] * 1
    #23840422 - 11/16/16 11:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Shake the jars dude ..if they recover great if not oh well.


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Re: Spawning grain [Re: afflictis]
    #23840427 - 11/16/16 11:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, if you are afraid they are contaminated with bacteria, and that is stalling them, then you can throw a casing layer inside the jar Then put a clear plastic bag tent over it, loosely, maybe with a few small holes. They still need FAE you know. Then simply mist and fruit out of the jars. Those jars have been stalled for a while. The only things I can see doing it is bacteria, OR lack of GE. Looking at your lids I am wondering what you got going on for GE. Are those lids just loose for GE? Did I miss something in lid for the GE?


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Re: Spawning grain [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #23840453 - 11/17/16 12:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Tight lids hole in top with microtape

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Re: Spawning grain [Re: cronicr]
    #23840698 - 11/17/16 04:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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You should shake those things.




Shake the fuck out of them. They can take the beating trust me.


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Re: Spawning grain [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23841082 - 11/17/16 09:44 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

they are obviously bacterial to the point that any hope of spawning to a monotub should be abandonded (it could work, but most likely won't)...when i get jars like this i take a spoon and dig out a little space in the jar that will allow all the uncolonized grain to be dumped out, then bang the jar against a tire to break up all the colonized grain and use it for cased trays


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Re: Spawning grain [Re: CrAcKbAbY]
    #23841311 - 11/17/16 11:10 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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they are obviously bacterial to the point that any hope of spawning to a monotub should be abandonded (it could work, but most likely won't)...when i get jars like this i take a spoon and dig out a little space in the jar that will allow all the uncolonized grain to be dumped out, then bang the jar against a tire to break up all the colonized grain and use it for cased trays



I see no metabolites or anything other then jars that weren't shaken properly at g2g....shake them.


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