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Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats 1
#23836229 - 11/15/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/15/mayor-says-chicago-will-always-be-sanctuary-city-in-face-deportation-threats.html
"Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel promised Monday to defy President-elect Donald Trump's deportation orders and vowed that the city will always be a so-called sanctuary city."
"you are safe in Chicago, you are secure in Chicago and you are supported in Chicago,' Emanuel said."
Yeah, Chicago is real safe today. Just wait until Trump cuts them off from Federal funding. 
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-14/lapd-chief-refuses-president-elect-trumps-immigration-plan-were-not-going-help-depor http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/mayors-sanctuary-cities-fight-trumps-plans-43553754
Looks like the Trump administration is going to have to show who's really in charge, this might get nasty.
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: qman] 4
#23836233 - 11/15/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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funny that: the people who claim to be anti-establishment, hate liberal arts, and think your regular joe should work for the man, who has no social conscience, no moral compunctions, whom just has sentience inasfar as he/she wants to manipulate the world around them; and these people are for disregarding a proponent who goes against the grain of the establishment, flatly....
the "muh state rights!" proponents charge in with "Trump, take 'im down! he ain't listening!"
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: akira_akuma]
#23836261 - 11/15/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: funny that: the people who claim to be anti-establishment, hate liberal arts, and think your regular joe should work for the man, who has no social conscience, no moral compunctions, whom just has sentience inasfar as he/she wants to manipulate the world around them; and these people are for disregarding a proponent who goes against the grain of the establishment, flatly....
the "muh state rights!" proponents charge in with "Trump, take 'im down! he ain't listening!"
They don't have to follow Federal law if they don't want to, they just have to deal with the social and economic consequences that come with that policy.
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: qman] 1
#23836294 - 11/15/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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yet they should get their funding cut?
ok.
you know what i worry for...not Trump. i have utter faith that Trump and his constituency can be great. i have no qualms in the least with his cabinet being whom they are, even if it's a roadmap to a bunch of people whom i think are not the best people to connote as "un-establishment", or even in some cases sane & competent (Carson, Palin) (but i think they can do a good job under Trump) -- under this presidency, i think it'll all come along fine -- save one thing...i worry not for Donald's presiding, nor his administration; but i worry for what precedent his proponents in the electorate is going to set for him. as that's what they are doing...you included...you're all setting the precedent for his either success or failure.
setting high water marks for things isn't going to be good for Trump, because Trump will not solely be catering to his fans...he can't, as president, just cater to his fans. some of his fans wish he would do some things that he frankly just won't do.
people's fears in that regard should be assuaged, but in regards to what the precedent is in two years, three years time, the notion that he is gonna fully live up to his base's expectations is kind of ludicrous, and those that get 'let down' (again, not people here, thankfully) will probably continue to promote propaganda to instil their wishes into the public consciousness. then that leads to more in-fighting, i see, unless that is, these people can't stand up to scrutinizing Donald, because they wouldn't win anyways...that'd be the best case scenario, honestly, but that doesn't mean another shit-storm won't start anyway after he's done.
i just want the precedent to be set in favor of reform and in favor of posterity. that includes posterity for the left -- yeah even the idiot SJWs. 
other than that though, right now, there is nothing but sky falling and then posts like the OP -- spamming public forums with news about how people aren't kowtowing to Donald...in a free country.
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: akira_akuma]
#23836335 - 11/15/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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"in a free country"
That doesn't entitle them to ignore the laws. Also, Trump isn't catering to his "fans", it's one of his first policy objectives as US President.
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: qman]
#23836359 - 11/15/16 05:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also, Trump isn't catering to his "fans", it's one of his first policy objectives as US President.
"it's"? what's "it's"? deporting people? um...you didn't read my post, did you? read again. mull through it like your life depended on it (i don't know why you'd have to that, but try it, try something. anything. just so you don't misapprehend what people are saying).
it's fine that he's deporting people...i never said he was catering to his fans for such things. you misread. i said i worry about the precedent people are setting for him, in terms of catering- not just to those whom want to see illegals booted - but no, also in all the other expectations that his proponents were riding on his presidency for.
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"in a free country"
That doesn't entitle them to ignore the laws.
there is also no provision for hunting down people to deport them. so how do you reconcile that? oh right...you don't.
i do enjoy Trump's expediency, though.
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: akira_akuma]
#23836431 - 11/15/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: Morel Guy]
#23836805 - 11/15/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone remember when Jan Brewer tried to enforce her right to states rights? The Obama administration sued the state of Arizona. Well, Obama led the way, hopefully trump uses every tool available to shut these sanctuary cities down. The election was a CLEAR mandate to do just that. I really hope he follows through
***fuck Chicago
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23836850 - 11/15/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Anyone remember when Jan Brewer tried to enforce her right to states rights? The Obama administration sued the state of Arizona. Well, Obama led the way, hopefully trump uses every tool available to shut these sanctuary cities down. The election was a CLEAR mandate to do just that. I really hope he follows through
***fuck Chicago
But but but Emanuel said Chicago was going to keep all of the illegal criminals "safe".
That's fucking wonderful Rahm, what about keeping US citizens safe from illegal criminals?
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: qman]
#23836866 - 11/15/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'm sure he intends to vet the criminals. but of course, you haven't considered that.
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#23836883 - 11/15/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i'm sure he intends to vet the criminals. but of course, you haven't considered that. 
As they soak up taxpayer money in the criminal justice system only to be released back into US society and commit more crimes against US citizens, "but of course, you haven't considered that."
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: qman] 1
#23836890 - 11/15/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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do you not understand what 'vetting' means?
no, no time in the criminal justice system. that's just your, as per usual, ASSUMPTION.
why the fuck would he vet criminals into prison just to deport them later, and how would this mean that they get "released into US society"?
you're working strictly from assumption here. all of it.
it'd be nice if you didn't fall hook line and sinker to all this clickbait and then post all the spam here.
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: akira_akuma]
#23836921 - 11/15/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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He said he's NOT going to deport them. Where the hell do you think he's going to do with illegals that commit serious crimes? Send them to Canada. 
What do you think happens when their prison sentence ends? Right back on the US streets, why do I have to hold your hand through this very obvious process? 
Do you have any clue why US citizens want illegals deported, especially the criminals? Are you even paying attention to what the hell is occurring?
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: qman]
#23837020 - 11/15/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trump isn't deporting all the illegals is he? 
no, he isn't.
should the criminals be deported...yes...will authorities be able to track down these criminals, and without forsaking other people's rights?
scantly can be done.
"Because states and cities can't be required to enforce federal law — and there's no U.S. requirement that police ask about a person's immigration status — it's likely that any Trump effort to crack down on sanctuary cities would focus on those that refuse to comply with ICE requests, said Roy Beck, chief executive of NumbersUSA, which wants to see immigration levels reduced."
as you can see: there'll be no way to extricate these people without a fight. the sanctuary cities...do they say they want to harbor criminals? show me where they say they wish to give sanctuary to those illegals whom HAVE ALSO committed crimes in-country.
i can assure you, Trump will keep those illegals whom have kept their noses clean.
so what do you do about that?
answer: nothing but complain.
what about the sanctuary cities, is it that they don't want to deport ANYONE, or is it just the non-criminal elements they wish to "not deport"?
retort?
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: qman] 3
#23837278 - 11/15/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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qman said: "you are safe in Chicago, you are secure in Chicago and you are supported in Chicago,' Emanuel said." .
so let's offer to help relocate all the illegals to chicago and then build a wall around the city so it can be a real sanctuary city
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23839163 - 11/16/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Big cities have been taken over by morons,look at la that mayor Villagrosso failed the bar exam 4 times,the majority of ppl Getting elected r all mexican,fuck la,leave it for morbid
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Re: Mayor says Chicago Will 'Always Be A Sanctuary City' In Face of Deportation Threats [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23839387 - 11/16/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: "you are safe in Chicago, you are secure in Chicago and you are supported in Chicago,' Emanuel said." .
so let's offer to help relocate all the illegals to chicago and then build a wall around the city so it can be a real sanctuary city
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