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MickeyFinn
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Ever try fruiting from grain?
#23839270 - 11/16/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm curious, as someone who follows the -spore->-LC->-spawn->-bulk sub->-fruit path, if anyone has tried just fruiting from the spawn itself I'd love to hear what the yield looked like. I'd of course expect a weaker yield so I've refused to make myself do it! Anyway, if you've given that a try I'm curious to hear your findings.
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: MickeyFinn]
#23839290 - 11/16/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes. (in reply to thread title)
Few fruits. Small fruits. Contam prone. Typically a waste of spawn.
A soak, a large casing layer, and some consolidation time(post casing) can make it a viable idea.
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23839357 - 11/16/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23839471 - 11/16/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: Yes. (in reply to thread title)
Few fruits. Small fruits. Contam prone. Typically a waste of spawn.
A soak, a large casing layer, and some consolidation time(post casing) can make it a viable idea.
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
#23839496 - 11/16/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes and I'll be damned but all I grew was a 100 aborts that were too nasty to bother picking. This pic is actually a b+ clone I forgot about at spawning, which I am currently growing now. The one I'm referring to was similar. I dunked this one first though
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: wtfcrazymofo] 1
#23839502 - 11/16/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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i did this.
1 pint of wbs 'cased' with coco/verm a decade ago(i was a nub). 1 flush and stopped. shrooms were 1.5-2inch tall. they were the most potent ive grown though. might not be related to anything. 

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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: mushboy]
#23839545 - 11/16/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is actually from Inocuole's user gallery
(hope you don't mind inocuole.) I'm not sure what he did to achieve this so you may want to ask him, but this was the easiest pic I could find.
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: mushboy]
#23839636 - 11/16/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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mushboy said: i did this.
1 pint of wbs 'cased' with coco/verm a decade ago(i was a nub). 1 flush and stopped. shrooms were 1.5-2inch tall. they were the most potent ive grown though. might not be related to anything. 


I would guess that since they didn't have to waste much energy recolonizing mixed CVG, that "energy" was converted to actives? Just a theory.
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: Kenetic]
#23840254 - 11/16/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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kenetic said:

This is actually from Inocuole's user gallery
(hope you don't mind inocuole.) I'm not sure what he did to achieve this so you may want to ask him, but this was the easiest pic I could find.
I wouldn't mind drinking that ovaltine.
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: cr1s1s]
#23840281 - 11/16/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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At 1:1 ratio:
Also agree on the small shrooms and contam prone.
Could've been bad spawn, but damn it looked good....
Shrooms never got above 1.5 inches high, VERY not meaty, and contaminated after the first flush of it before some.
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: Moabfighter] 1
#23840508 - 11/17/16 12:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moabfighter said: VERY not meaty
I like the way you put that.  Next time my wife asks if her ass looks huge, I'm gona' say "very not meaty".
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: MickeyFinn]
#23840693 - 11/17/16 04:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ive seen invito grows from grain its a sad sight. Nothing good about fruiting ofd grains directly. Casing is way way better.
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I have had okay success fruiting right off of colonized grain (I do that when I don't trust the spawn). Vtek method is probably the best way to do it tho my results with it were not the best. Top fruited cased grain spawn needs bottom watering to achieve any type of yield.
However top fruiting cased grain is a lot different from lining a tray with grain and casing. If you are going to break up the colony you are far better served to simply spawn it. The loss in energy from the colony needing to repair itself and the lack of supplied water means that results will be very lackluster.
Cased and top fruited bacterial grain spawn.

Despite all that I greatly prefer to spawn to bulk. The results are better by far.
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23841126 - 11/17/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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i stand correctly 
How many flushes did u get?
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spacechildo
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when people say "straight grain" I always figure they mean straight grain, no casing layer. only grains no casing layer is shitty. pasty has a casing layer. even better would be spawning same amount of grains to bulk.
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Pastywhyte
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I tossed it after 1. But probably could have seen lots.
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23841285 - 11/17/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ah, i see.
toss it!
Ive seen pics of invitro, no casing layer, and its nothing to write home about.
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Pastywhyte
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Space is correct about the casing layer. . . I never even considered people were talkingabout fruiting grain without a casing. That would be like jerking off with sand. Not even once.
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23841373 - 11/17/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ouch! I like how you put that pasty! Shit had me laughing!
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spacechildo
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23841425 - 11/17/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Space is correct about the casing layer. . . I never even considered people were talkingabout fruiting grain without a casing. That would be like jerking off with sand. Not even once.
if you ever venture into one of "those other myco websites" you see plenty of people fruiting blocks of pure grain, no verm,no casing no nothing, treating it as an unrolled pf-tek cake. Never underestimate the stupidity of "those other sites".
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: spacechildo]
#23841498 - 11/17/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Probably call it an "experiment"
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spacechildo
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23841515 - 11/17/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol, if only. "popcorn is the best spawn, here is my pmp with 12 spawn cakes. it works, fuck you, you're just jealous"
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LogicaL Chaos
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23841561 - 11/17/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Space is correct about the casing layer. . . I never even considered people were talkingabout fruiting grain without a casing. That would be like jerking off with sand. Not even once.
Damn!
I wont forget that piece of advice. Yooowww!
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Quote:
LogicaL Chaos said: Ive seen invito grows from grain its a sad sight.
here is an old thread where RR showed his ones.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5711989/fpart/all/vc/1
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RogerRabbit said: Here's a few of mine. A good, isolated invitro strain will begin pinning within a week of full colonization, and look like the jars below two to three weeks after that, even on straight rye berries. With multispore inoculation, getting a good invitro performer is going to take a lot of misses before a good hit. Be sure to clone the fruits when you find a good one. You can't get more stealth than invitro and they're great for having freshies whenever you want. RR
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: blackout]
#23843264 - 11/17/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow, RR is such a showoff lol. I really wish he was still around.....
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: Kenetic]
#23844182 - 11/18/16 05:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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if those pics are the results of a long search for good invitro pure grain-cultures I'd say they just show pf-tek > invitro grain spawn any day of the wekk
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Re: Ever try fruiting from grain? [Re: blackout]
#23844357 - 11/18/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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RR is the only one that can pull off an amazing invitro grow! He also grew shrooms out a Bible too!
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