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Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's "Double Dunk" tek * 4
    #23839077 - 11/16/16 04:57 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

ComebackKid's PF "Double Dunk"
Get Vermiculite to Stick!


Introduction

For the absolute beginner

I want to start by saying that I'm not re-inventing the wheel here by any means. This is just a guide to help people having trouble getting vermiculite to stick to their cakes.

In the short time that I've been here, I've noticed this issue come up many, many times.
"Having trouble getting vermiculite to stick to my PF cakes"

The dunk and roll is a staple in every PF grow. The dunk & roll is easy, but if you don't give your cakes a proper "roll", you won't get the best results possible.

Difficulty: Easy!!


The pourpose of this tek

To provide a simple solution for "rolling" your PF cakes, without having to bend over backwards to get vermiculite to stick.
I put the word "roll" in quotations because I have never taken that term litterally.

Many people will give advice like "blend your vermiculite in a coffee grinder" or "you need to buy fine grade vermiculite"
Well, this is how I get the verm to stick every time.


What you'll need

-Medium or large-sized mixing bowl
-Vermiculite
-Dunked PF cakes


The Double Dunk

Step 1
(Preparation & Separation)

Fill your mixing bowl with verm. Easy!
Gently shake the bowl of verm back and fourth.
You should notice the bigger pieces of verm making their way to the surface. This is good.

Optional:
Now that most of the bigger pieces of verm are at the surface, you may choose to crumble them into finer pieces or remove them from the bowl altogether.


Step 2
(Gravedigger)

Dig a little hole in the verm out of the center of the bowl. This should be a big enough grave for one PF cake.

Step 3
(Burial)

Make sure your cake is still dripping wet from the dunk!
Lower it into its grave and "dunk" it in verm. Make sure that your cake is fully covered in vermiculite. Bury that thing!
Dry your hands and gently apply a little pressure on all sides of your cake.

Step 4
(Resurrection)

Carefully uncover your cake.
Place the cake on your foil/jar lid/bottom watering dish in your SGFC.
Remember you're trying to leave as much vermiculite on your cake as humanly possible!

Step 5
(Baptize)

Wait 6-24 hours before misting your cakes. I find the longer I wait before misting the better.
I have left them for up to 24 hours before misting, although I wouldn't reccomend waiting any longer than that.
Give your cakes a gentle misting. If you mist too closely, the spray may force some verm off.
Take your time here to fully saturate the dry verm layer.


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TL;DR
Don't "roll" your cakes
Bury them in a bowl of vermiculite

There you have it folks!
A thoroughly written toutorial on rolling your cakes. Who would have thunk it?
There are now no excuses for poorly rolled cakes! It ain't rocket appliances!

To be updated with pics...


Edited by ComebackKid (11/16/16 05:49 PM)


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23839128 - 11/16/16 05:11 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Good stuff dude :thumbup: and very simple, but apparently nobody came up with the idea or at least nobody felt like sharing it.


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's [Re: Josex]
    #23839138 - 11/16/16 05:14 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Thankyou!
I'm sure this has been explained somehow somewhere before but I've personally explained this so many times I need a link for the signature :lol:


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23839144 - 11/16/16 05:18 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

The last step should make a hell of a difference:
Quote:

ComebackKid said:
Step 5
(Baptize)

Wait 6-24 hours before misting your cakes. I find the longer I wait before misting the better.
I have left them for up to 24 hours before misting, although I wouldn't reccomend waiting any longer than that.
Give your cakes a gentle misting. If you mist too closely, the spray may force some verm off.
Take your time here to fully saturate the dry verm layer.





Nice write up :cheers:


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's [Re: Josex]
    #23839193 - 11/16/16 05:31 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Nice. I have had to explain this to a lot of people as well.


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23839541 - 11/16/16 07:17 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I had that problem for a while too...  On my last cake grow, I poured the verm into a ziploc baggie and dropped the cake in there.  Then, I sealed the bag and shook the cake around inside.  Not hard or anything at all...just like a few jiggles between my hands.  Seemed to work perfectly.


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #23839549 - 11/16/16 07:19 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

funny this is how I "rolled" my cakes


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's "Double Dunk" tek [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23839588 - 11/16/16 07:31 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

That's the way to roll.


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's "Double Dunk" tek [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24109902 - 02/22/17 03:31 AM (4 years, 9 days ago)

Cool tek, PF Verm Buiral tek. How morbid. :lol:


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's "Double Dunk" tek [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24228577 - 04/08/17 08:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

bump. I made pics for you.


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's "Double Dunk" tek [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24946072 - 01/27/18 02:46 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Wonderful!


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's "Double Dunk" tek [Re: Avery3100]
    #24946146 - 01/27/18 03:31 PM (3 years, 1 month ago)

Always thought a light/thin layer was best. Learned me a thing today.


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's "Double Dunk" tek [Re: ComebackKid]
    #26104457 - 07/12/19 06:00 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Hi I am very new but I have a question concerning the dunk and roll process.

My sub is pre-sterilized millet I bought online. Can I/should I use the dunk and roll with this once it is colonized?
Also can I roll it in vermiculite even though the original material is millet?


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's "Double Dunk" tek [Re: MavenTom]
    #26104543 - 07/12/19 07:06 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

No. This is explicitly for brf/verm cakes.

You wasn't to either...
A.( preferable) get a brick of coir, hydrate it and mix 50/50 with your millet in a large tub

B. ( works, not optimal) covert the surfacewith a layer of moist jiffy mix. Still need to put in a tub,or bag


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's "Double Dunk" tek [Re: ComebackKid]
    #26104582 - 07/12/19 07:25 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Oh snap, cool post CBK. I have always buried and resurrected without thinking about it and have wondered why some folksgrows look like the verm wont even stay on.  Nice, easy, n informative.  Good stuff dood!


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's "Double Dunk" tek [Re: Soccrates]
    #26110590 - 07/15/19 10:36 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I mix the coir in with the millet once it is completely colonized with mycelium correct? That was the plan since I bought the bag with the self-healing port injection bag, in hopes I would have less contamination.


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Re: Get Vermiculite to Stick/ CBK's "Double Dunk" tek [Re: MavenTom]
    #26110623 - 07/15/19 10:53 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

So like this?


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