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EternalCowabunga
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Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? 2
#23838971 - 11/16/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I find that I do this more than I realized. For example, when I was telling my family over dinner about a guy I know dying during sleep paralysis, none of them had ever heard of sleep paralysis.. I just assumed this was a phenomena that most people experienced at one point or another...
I also have to remind myself that a lot of people have never tried psychedelics or ever had a truly profound experience on them... a lot of people have never had a lucid dream, or even a vivid dream, some people dream in black and white!
I have had so many experiences.. OBEs, psychosis, depersonalization, ego death, schizophrenia, grace.. different chemical compounds
I can barely imagine the world view of someone who has never lived on the fringes, someone who has never had a mental illness, or a profound spiritual realization..
Would their brain connections look totally different from mine? Is this the reason why I feel like an outsider of my family and most people?
I'm not saying I'm better than these people. I'm just wondering what their philisophical viewpoint is, if it differs wildly from mine, I have no idea.
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Tmethyl
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: EternalCowabunga] 2
#23839050 - 11/16/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If someone doesn't get what I mean, I just try to dig into what they do know, then build upon that using metaphors they can relate to. Once they get mentally 'lubed' up, I ram in my highest knowledge with no remorse.

If that doesn't work I just go back to my own limited perspective and stop pretending that I have some sort of high understanding. I'm like a termite with the blueprint to the universe. Nobody will take me seriously, and how horrible it would be if they did. 
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Tmethyl
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23839059 - 11/16/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Secondly, if you're one the believe in reincarnation, then maybe these people with such limited perspectives are just on their first life or something. They need to get some more deaths under their belt.
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23839166 - 11/16/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#23840203 - 11/16/16 09:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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EternalCowabunga said: I was telling my family over dinner about a guy I know dying during sleep paralysis, none of them had ever heard of sleep paralysis.. I just assumed this was a phenomena that most people experienced at one point or another...
I am the same way when talking to my family, or anyone I have worked with, I love talking about matters of spirituality.
I knew a Mormon I worked with, and I wasn't trying to be rude but he asked me about what I put my faith in, what I belched forth was no less than blasphemy in his eyes, I could hear his balls shrinking from anxiety as I stood there and prattled on about my unorthodox views regarding spirituality.
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23840279 - 11/16/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Blind Ass said:

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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: EternalCowabunga] 1
#23840385 - 11/16/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I realised once that any perfectly enlightened person could have any number of reasons to pretend not to be so, and that I would have very little way (if not none) of telling the difference.
Despite this, however, some people appear to be suffering and so it therefore may be my place in Nature to behave towards them as if they were not enlightened.
It's hard to always keep in mind the possibility that one is being fooled by any given perception, because the stronger the perception is the more it seems to remove this thought.
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: viktor]
#23840392 - 11/16/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everyone judges everyone else and everyone thinks that they are right.
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: klhouse]
#23840504 - 11/17/16 12:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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klhouse said: Everyone judges everyone else and everyone thinks that they are right.
Wrong.
Oh shit you are right afterall.
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23840600 - 11/17/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This universe is wordless.. and words govern this universe (atleast planet) therefore we exist in a non-dualistic contrast with every thing.
Your parents are fucking sexy and this is why they win this capitalistic game or communistic (depending on where you are)
Literally all you need to do is sell your body. I'm. Not. Fucking. Joking.
Then all your problems will go away.
Your welcome.
Nah, just sit with the messiness of your life. If it is forgiveness you need to practice, create your own stage show or meditation for that. Whatever it is, your the creator. Shit will always be messy in some fashion, this means nothing. Just go with the flow, man.
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: pur3bind]
#23840602 - 11/17/16 02:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sry Tmethyl twas to EternalCowabunga
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EternalCowabunga
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: pur3bind]
#23842580 - 11/17/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nothing wrong with making money.. I'm quite sexy and organized - trying to get more organized. Working towards my goals...
It's humbling, I guess. All my exploration, rebellion, delving into the dark.. really did not win me any confidence, strength, stamina.. the wisdom I gained was to simply never go that route again.
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#23846280 - 11/18/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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EternalCowabunga said: Nothing wrong with making money.. I'm quite sexy and organized - trying to get more organized. Working towards my goals...
It's humbling, I guess. All my exploration, rebellion, delving into the dark.. really did not win me any confidence, strength, stamina.. the wisdom I gained was to simply never go that route again.
Unfortunately I've found that it does become necessary to give people a piece of your mind... and then it sets you back and you lose some humanity... but then you come back with more finesse and ability to do it without remorse, because you reach a place of higher understanding and compassion which enables you to say things in a more pleasant way
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: yeah]
#23852299 - 11/20/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Very interesting. Thanks, Yeah.
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#23858888 - 11/22/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I used to give people a lot more credit than they deserved
Now the only assumption I make is that they're not as far along as I am
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pur3bind
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Re: Ever make assumptions about other people's spirituality? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#23864419 - 11/24/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I agree about that rebellion part you say.
It all depends how you define the thing. I say we are all creatives and when we come together as creatives, and just see one another as we are, where we are, then that is great, but if you define rebellion simply as the opposite of conformity, then your mistaken. It is being true to what you are, where you are.
It all comes and goes. Love you to love them. So when looking at others look at the goodness in them, because its just as much there as the nastyness we can prefer seeing.
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