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Offlinecoop
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Yet another question about casing....ha
    #2383882 - 02/27/04 05:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, I've decided to bypass doing cakes and do casings instead. I've been reading that after your jars colonize and you create your casing, you have to put it back into the incubator. I have a tub-n-tub system, but is that bad to have jars trying to colonize in with casings??

Also, I know once you create the casing, you can put suran wrap over top of it. With this done, would it be ok to stack the casings on top of one another, making sure the one on top doesn't fall through the one below??


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: coop]
    #2383910 - 02/27/04 05:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

sounds cool to me but you might want to put cardboard between the trays that you stack even though it might get flimsier from the humidity that is sometimes generated in incubation chambers. the only thing that could go wrong is a contaminated casing that would introduce contam to the incubator. but you will be taking steps to prevent that anyhow and you should have already taken steps to gaurd against contam to a degree as is so i dont think it is that big of a deal but you might want to be on the look out just to be safe although you do not want to be fucking with shit every day either. I say go for it.


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: kilgore_trout]
    #2383938 - 02/27/04 05:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Damn, I dunno what to do now. I don't want to go out and buy another tub-n-tub system just to do these casings!!


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: coop]
    #2383970 - 02/27/04 06:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

if they will all fit i say fucking do it. if they wont then i would take the jars out and put the casings in as the jars can colonize while the trays fruit. if you dont want to make a second incubator but cant fit them all just put the jars somewhere warm. there are people who just stick their shit on shelves and what not once they determine the temperature. you can put them in a box somewhere kinda warm with blankets on them. do whatever, its no big deal. just get that shit going so you can fruit that shit.


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: coop]
    #2383992 - 02/27/04 06:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

you need to watch your rh when putting casings into a tub in tub setup.
The heater will cause way more rh then needed by the casings. Cakes need more rh then casings do so just try to get your temp to 76* and stabilize your rh.


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: Rabbitt]
    #2384033 - 02/27/04 06:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Damn, I'm getting confused now!! Ok, at this moment I have 6 jars sitting in my incubator at 83F. It's just a rubbermaid clear container with a lid on top of it. I did clean the inside out with dysinfectant, etc. Other than that though, my jars are sitting inside the closed container with two blankets overtop of them to keep in heat and light out.

As far as my fruiting chamber goes, I have something totally different from that. I have another rubbermaid container which I am going to layer with perlite, and set my coir/verm casings within once they are ready to fruit.

I think the part I'm getting confused on is the step inbetween. After I have made the casings, and right before I have set them inside the fruiting chamber. What am I missing here??


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: coop]
    #2384053 - 02/27/04 06:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

after you make them and have a casing layer in place you can either (A) cover with saran wrap and let it colonize then patch and place into your fruiting chamber, or (B) directly place it from your counter ( or whereever you made the casing ) to your fruiting chamber.
And if im not wrong i believe perlite will give too much rh for casings but i could be wrong about this. Too much rh will stunt growth and cause stem rot.


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: coop]
    #2384080 - 02/27/04 06:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

make the casing, cover it (i use foil or newspaper) and stick it in the incubator (don't worry about the jars, they're fine with sharing and the myc is well protected). check it daily. when it's poking through just how you like it, uncover and place in the terrarium. don't worry about patching now if this is your first grow - too many things to do for the first time.

do a cake as a backup, in a 2L coke bottle!


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: Rabbitt]
    #2384097 - 02/27/04 06:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think I fully understand what you mean by the "patch and place" thing, but I have assumed all along that once I created my casings I would put them directly into the terrarium.

I do plan on using perlite to layer my chamber and keep humidity up, but what could I do to keep the pH balance up?? I have asked this question just the other day, but it seemed to not be a big deal. I think otherwise now. Thanks!


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: coop]
    #2384133 - 02/27/04 06:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

have to ask someone else about the ph problem man i never worried about it before.
Dont mind the patch and place statement before just do as Shirley said and place it into your terraruim.
Sorry if i counfused you too much man.


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: coop]
    #2384137 - 02/27/04 06:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

when making the casing mixture, some perfectionists like to measure the pH, aiming for a nice neutralish 7-8 (i.e. slightly alkiline, as the growing fungus secretes acid and the casing layer thus buffers it and stays nice and comfy).

but so long as you don't use vinegar or baking soda by mistake in your casing mixture, you shouldn't need it necessarily. just don't use too much peat, as this can be a bit acidic.


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: shirley knott]
    #2384161 - 02/27/04 06:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not even using peat. After reading up on the FAQ's, I was planning on casing using the coir/verm method and then placing the casings into my terrarium; which would be layered with perlite and I would fan 2-3 times a day, as well as mist with water/peroxide mix.


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: coop]
    #2384179 - 02/27/04 06:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:thumbup:

(don't worry about the peroxide in the misting water. you can if you like, but most say it proffers no benefit)


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: shirley knott]
    #2384183 - 02/27/04 06:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ok...so should I not worry about the pH balance now that you realize I'm not using peat??  I don't wanna fuck up in the end :smile:


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Re: Yet another question about casing....ha [Re: coop]
    #2384202 - 02/27/04 06:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

be cool, daddio  :cool:


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