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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23838348 - 11/16/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I handle a rifle better than I do scissors. :undecided:


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23838351 - 11/16/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

the real question is, can you chop an onion without losing an eye?


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23838368 - 11/16/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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the real question is, can you chop an onion without losing an eye?



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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23838395 - 11/16/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
the real question is, can you chop an onion without losing an eye?




Do they make flat bullets?
If not I could probably dice


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23838409 - 11/16/16 10:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
I know gun control is a huge debate in this country, but one thing that has even more people sided is what the appropriate age to introduce a child to guns should be.

Some gun advocates say that children should be taught this responsibility early on, even as toddlers, so they know how to handle them.

I think that's crazy. I wouldn't trust a little kid to drive a car. Why on earth would I trust them with a gun?

I was watching this WWYD clip where a woman is protesting a child in a gun shop, but it seems everybody in the shop defends the child and his parents, even when the gun is a fully automatic weapon like an AK47. What do you guys think?

If you are for it, what age do you think is the appropriate age?





I wouldn't generally give guns to children but they've got to learn that early with good supervision and instruction on how to be safe. I learned to shoot a .22 rifle when I was about 7 or 8, and I had my own .22 when I was 12. We lived in the country. City people are looney about anything to do with guns. You'll be better off to ignore the urbanites and their crazy ideas as much as possible.


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #23838421 - 11/16/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't trust wandering bands of lord of the flies kids, but normal children with adult supervision and proper training why not?


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Ellis Dee] * 1
    #23838427 - 11/16/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Ellis Dee said:
I wouldn't generally give guns to children but they've got to learn that early with good supervision and instruction on how to be safe. I learned to shoot a .22 rifle when I was about 7 or 8, and I had my own .22 when I was 12. We lived in the country. City people are looney about anything to do with guns. You'll be better off to ignore the urbanites and their crazy ideas as much as possible.



Wisdom there :thumbup:


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23838439 - 11/16/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
I know gun control is a huge debate in this country, but one thing that has even more people sided is what the appropriate age to introduce a child to guns should be.

Some gun advocates say that children should be taught this responsibility early on, even as toddlers, so they know how to handle them.

I think that's crazy. I wouldn't trust a little kid to drive a car. Why on earth would I trust them with a gun?

I was watching this WWYD clip where a woman is protesting a child in a gun shop, but it seems everybody in the shop defends the child and his parents, even when the gun is a fully automatic weapon like an AK47. What do you guys think?

If you are for it, what age do you think is the appropriate age?







Should small children be trusted with guns?  no.  If small children are handling guns it should be under supervision.  Gun safety should be taught at an early age though IMO.  There are tons of preventable accidents that happen because kids are playing with guns that they don't understand how to handle safely (I'll not get into who should be responsible for keeping their guns locked up).  Everybody should at least be taught how to load and unload a gun safely, whether they plan on ever using one or not.


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23838564 - 11/16/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

At what age to introduce children to firearms?

At age 8 and up I played around with the air pistol of my dad, did some dumb stuff but never really dangerous.

At about age 10 I got my own air rifle, or rather, paid for and ordered with money from my allowance, saved up long and hard for that one. 30 meters effective, side lever action, .177 lead diabolos, really powerful. I never shot a single animal but it could shoot a cat or rabbit, it was that powerful.

Its gone.

I think I would have been ready for small caliber firearms at around age 12, perhaps a .22 LR pistol or a pistol cartridge firing rifle.

Nothing bad would have happened with it. At that age I was handling pyrochemicals for fun, I had caused my first detonations, sent rockets flying, got flash powder to work, no trouble at all. I could have easily handled firearms.

Water pistols are good at any age as an entry level, perhaps then work up to airsoft, then airguns, then the real thing.

Many kids do not have the luxury of anything resembling a childhood and they still do sorta OK.



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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23838661 - 11/16/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I was shooting a .22 at 5 years.
Now...... granted, I was raised in the country and all my pals were poppin caps in elementary.
There were always adults untill we were about 10.  But we learned.
I agree Asante, to many kids never get to be kids.
To many adults act like kids, it is a backwards world mang.
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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: A.RichardTrickle]
    #23838787 - 11/16/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've been shooting guns since I was in elementary school.  It made me more responsible around firearms.  My parents trusted me with the knowledge of firearm safety.  They took away all the curiousity I would of had if I didn't know anything about them.  my parents allowing me to use a gun under their supervision was definitely beneficial.

I think good parents are able to tell when their child is mature enough to learn and understand what gun safety is all about.  Its better they know rather than come across one at a friends house and someone gets injured.


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23839835 - 11/16/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
you know what really kills me? the fact that liberals spout this kind of shit but
then turn around and dont want to involve police and mental health professionals
in the lives of those that are mentally unstable because they think it's going to
ruin someone's life. the reporter mentions everyone knew she was nuts and yet this
bitch wasnt in an institution, it wasnt tattooed on her forehead that she was a
nutter so the range master couldnt know she was unstable so there you have that
fine line that liberals love to walk in order to try and ban guns as being
dangerous when the reality of it is, the liberals are dangerous




Oh I don't blame the gun range. There's no way they could have known about her mental illness.

I blame her family for thinking it's a good idea to bring her to a place like the shooting range. What person thinks it's a good idea to bring a mentally ill person to a shooting range? Surely her family must have known about her mental illness.

See, that's just an example of how some people are TOO relaxed about shooting guns. That they think it's a good idea to bring a deranged or unstable person to a range because it's "fun."


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23839843 - 11/16/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ah hahahahaha!



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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: mycosis]
    #23839880 - 11/16/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Damn, she's no-scopin


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #23839905 - 11/16/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

She get it from her momma! :naughty:



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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Herbologist] * 2
    #23840192 - 11/16/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think 6-8 is a fine age for children to start learning firearm safety. I particularly like what Herbologist said:

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Herbologist said:
They took away all the curiousity I would of had if I didn't know anything about them.




I think that to a child guns can be an exciting concept. They see them in the movies and video games, wielded by badasses and heroes so effortlessly and consequence free, simply making bad guys drop to the floor.

In reality guns are very heavy, extremely loud (require hearing protection), hard to control and shoot accurately and easy to make mistakes with. Mistakes that can get you and your friends hurt. Giving a child to opportunity explore firearms in a controled context will reduce firearm related hysteria and also reduce the liklihood of misuse.

Example
Imagine a group of boys coming across an old rifle in grandad's barn. Kids who have no experience are likely to get exicted and try to use it, probably muzzle sweeping eachother and potentially incorrectly using the firearm.

A child who is allowed to shoot daddy's gun under supervision wouldn't be particularly excited to find grandad's old rifle. And even if he did use it, he'd be more likely to adopt safe procedures such as not muzzle sweeping his friends and loading and firing the gun correctly.


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Dawks]
    #23840327 - 11/16/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23840360 - 11/16/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Crystal G said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
you know what really kills me? the fact that liberals spout this kind of shit but
then turn around and dont want to involve police and mental health professionals
in the lives of those that are mentally unstable because they think it's going to
ruin someone's life. the reporter mentions everyone knew she was nuts and yet this
bitch wasnt in an institution, it wasnt tattooed on her forehead that she was a
nutter so the range master couldnt know she was unstable so there you have that
fine line that liberals love to walk in order to try and ban guns as being
dangerous when the reality of it is, the liberals are dangerous




Oh I don't blame the gun range. There's no way they could have known about her mental illness.

I blame her family for thinking it's a good idea to bring her to a place like the shooting range. What person thinks it's a good idea to bring a mentally ill person to a shooting range? Surely her family must have known about her mental illness.

See, that's just an example of how some people are TOO relaxed about shooting guns. That they think it's a good idea to bring a deranged or unstable person to a range because it's "fun."





the reason we've had many of the mass shootings we've had were because the
liberals calling themselves the family of these mentally ill people stood
by and did nothing. had they been on paper at some point then they wouldnt
have been able to legally buy a firearm.

that is the point I was making but you seemed to skip right past


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23840382 - 11/16/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:

the reason we've had many of the mass shootings we've had were because the
liberals calling themselves the family of these mentally ill people stood
by and did nothing. had they been on paper at some point then they wouldnt
have been able to legally buy a firearm.

that is the point I was making but you seemed to skip right past




We already have laws that if you are sent to the hospital for a suicide attempt or attempted murder you are placed on a 5150 and sent to 3 days in the psychiatric institution. When this happens you are no longer eligible to buy a gun for 7 years.

I don't know what else you would want to do to ensure that every mentally ill person gets placed on some national database, except for some extreme authoritarian police-state type of measure.


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23840420 - 11/16/16 11:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Crystal G said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:

the reason we've had many of the mass shootings we've had were because the
liberals calling themselves the family of these mentally ill people stood
by and did nothing. had they been on paper at some point then they wouldnt
have been able to legally buy a firearm.

that is the point I was making but you seemed to skip right past




We already have laws that if you are sent to the hospital for a suicide attempt or attempted murder you are placed on a 5150 and sent to 3 days in the psychiatric institution. When this happens you are no longer eligible to buy a gun for 7 years.

I don't know what else you would want to do to ensure that every mentally ill person gets placed on some national database, except for some extreme authoritarian police-state type of measure.





we also have laws that say you arent supposed to rape, rob and kill people
but those laws do no good when the persons committing these crimes or as
our discussion is regarding the mentally ill, THE GOD DAMNED FAMILY THAT
HAS SEEN THIS FUCKING HISTORY OF FUCKING MENTAL ILLNESS DOES NOTHING TO
HAVE THESE PEOPLE COMMITTED SO INSTEAD THEY GO OUT AND BUY A GUN LEGALLY
AND SHOOT UP A MOTHER FUCKING THEATER


people want to sue the gun manufacturers, they want to sue the bullet
manufacturers they want to sue everyone but the family of the perpetrators
of these crimes dont seem to ever come into question even though they've
seen the shit for years going on with their kids and they did absolutely
nothing that could have prevented these tragedies

are you beginning to understand yet what I have now said 3 times?


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