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OfflineTurtletotem
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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23838032 - 11/16/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I shoved a pistol up my pregnant wife so the little bugger could practice early, know what im saying?
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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Turtletotem]
    #23838035 - 11/16/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

... :rofl:


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23838039 - 11/16/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
they dont feel the need to pretend to shoot
things with real or fake weapons, they dont have the curiosity to pick the rifle
up and play with it or pull the trigger to see if it's loaded




That might be from your teaching, it also might be coincidence. I never felt the need to play with real or fake weapons or had any strong curiosity or desire towards them. I'm sure if I actually ran into an unsupervised gun, I would have reported it to an adult like I was instructed to.

Also leaving a loaded rifle in the house with a bunch of kids, that story could have turned out a very different way depending on your luck.

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you ignorance of
is more dangerous that a child having knowledge of a firearm




Because people are just supposed to have knowledge of AK47's? :lol:

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was he really an instructor or was he someone that taught a kid to point and pull
the trigger, an instructor would have known not to put a weapon in a child's hand
that they would have difficulty controlling, adding a stock to that weapon would
have made it much safer and easier to control. even adults have difficulty the
first few times. an instructor also woldnt have placed himself in the direction of
the muzzle climb which is always the same direction on every automatic firearm




He was a real instructor, I'm surprised you haven't heard of that case. He was a shooting range instructor in Arizona. The kids were there because of some class field trip or something.

What really kills me are the videos you see of mentally ill people shooting people at the range... because a shooting range is the perfect place for somebody with a known mental illness? :flowstone:



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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23838050 - 11/16/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I used to shoot guns in 1st grade, but I wouldn't be comfortable around a child as young as 6-8 with a gun.


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23838056 - 11/16/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That is kind of reckless. I mean again I think teaching them a lesson is important... But they didn't go about it the right way at all...


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23838108 - 11/16/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
I had a BB rifle when I was 7 years old and I regularly  fired buck shots with the super vision of my father. Everybody lived




BB guns aren't real guns... that's like the equivalent of owning a paintball gun.




I disagree. A gun is a gun, no matter how powerful it is. I had an object that could cause pain in my hands. If I had shot someone in the eye with that thing that someone would have had a blind eye for the rest of his life.

Also, I can defend my house with a BB gun just as I can with a 45. If I shoot a thief on the elbow with my BB rifle the guy would have to at least get out of the house to regroup.


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Patlal]
    #23838117 - 11/16/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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  If I shoot a thief on the elbow with my BB rifle the guy would have to at least get out of the house to regroup.





Lol, no...


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Patlal]
    #23838123 - 11/16/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Your parents obviously did a good job of making you respect firearms. And I applaud them and you for recognizing that a BB gun can be dangerous. But no a BB is not a real gun. I've been shot with paintball guns that hurt 100x worse than a standard pump action air rifle.

If I had to compare on which would be more likely to cause internal bleeding I'd have gone with the paintball gun. I got shot from like 30ft and my body was covered in so many egg sized welts I couldn't even wear a shirt in my own size for weeks.
If I hadn't had all that muscle and fat over my gut at the time it probably would have been way worse.


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: flickedbic]
    #23838127 - 11/16/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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  If I shoot a thief on the elbow with my BB rifle the guy would have to at least get out of the house to regroup.





Lol, no...



I don't think you understand how powerful BB guns are. They're on a way different level then air soft or paintball. They shoot tiny metal BB's that'll impale you


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: flickedbic]
    #23838128 - 11/16/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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flickedbic said:
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  If I shoot a thief on the elbow with my BB rifle the guy would have to at least get out of the house to regroup.





Lol, no...




I remember the pellets going through 4 pepsi cans before stopping. I wasn't a cheap pump rifle with round  BBs. It was a rack barrel rifle with these pointy BBs. I loved that thing.


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Patlal]
    #23838134 - 11/16/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I also had a 1,000 FPS air rifle as a kid, I know...

Even with a real  gun and multiple center mass shots you can get your head smashed in by an attacker.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/the-center-mass-myth-and-ending-a-gunfight-triggernometry/


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Patlal]
    #23838138 - 11/16/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Alright we're obviously not all meeting eye to eye on this. Is it a pump action BB gun we're talking about? Because that's not the same thing as a CO2 powered pellet gun.

You were using a pellet gun patlal.

And those are not the same thing as airsoft guns either.



I'd still go with the high-powered paintball gun on scale of ow. I bet you could do some damage if you loaded it with marbles...


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23838146 - 11/16/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
Alright we're obviously not all meeting eye to eye on this. Is it a pump action BB gun we're talking about? Because that's not the same thing as a CO2 powered pellet gun.

You were using a pellet gun patlal.

And those are not the same thing as airsoft guns either.



I'd still go with the high-powered paintball gun on scale of ow. I bet you could do some damage if you loaded it with marbles...




A crack barrel spring BB rifle. My younger step brother had a pump BB with round things.

Shit maybe you're right. it was pellets but I could fire BBs from it too. So same caliber I guess.

These things:



I had the pointy ones


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23838152 - 11/16/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hahahahahahaha what the fuck kind of responses in this thread is this bullshit? i thought this was a joke thread.

oh yeah, let a hunch of fucking 6 year olds run around with guns:burke:


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Patlal]
    #23838159 - 11/16/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I clearly remember my dad saying that I was the only one who could use it alone. My step brother could use it if I was there And my best friend that was my age could also use it. These were the only 3 people my age or younger that touched that thing.

In retrospect it's cool cause my daad gave me the responsibility to supervise my step brother.  it added respect to the weapon.


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23838160 - 11/16/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
they dont feel the need to pretend to shoot
things with real or fake weapons, they dont have the curiosity to pick the rifle
up and play with it or pull the trigger to see if it's loaded




That might be from your teaching, it also might be coincidence. I never felt the need to play with real or fake weapons or had any strong curiosity or desire towards them. I'm sure if I actually ran into an unsupervised gun, I would have reported it to an adult like I was instructed to.

Also leaving a loaded rifle in the house with a bunch of kids, that story could have turned out a very different way depending on your luck.





yeah, you're totally right. the story could have turned out a lot different





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Quote:

you ignorance of
is more dangerous that a child having knowledge of a firearm




Because people are just supposed to have knowledge of AK47's? :lol:




I'm pretty sure we've had this very discussion before where you claimed AKs to be automatics

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He was a real instructor, I'm surprised you haven't heard of that case. He was a shooting range instructor in Arizona. The kids were there because of some class field trip or something.





dont be surprised, I have heard about this when it happened, I've seen the video posted dozens of times but it doesnt change things, a guy can buy some land, call it a gun range and call himself an instructor but that doesnt make him an instructor if he doesnt follow the basic fundamentals of gun safety

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What really kills me are the videos you see of mentally ill people shooting people at the range... because a shooting range is the perfect place for somebody with a known mental illness? :flowstone:







you know what really kills me? the fact that liberals spout this kind of shit but
then turn around and dont want to involve police and mental health professionals
in the lives of those that are mentally unstable because they think it's going to
ruin someone's life. the reporter mentions everyone knew she was nuts and yet this
bitch wasnt in an institution, it wasnt tattooed on her forehead that she was a
nutter so the range master couldnt know she was unstable so there you have that
fine line that liberals love to walk in order to try and ban guns as being
dangerous when the reality of it is, the liberals are dangerous


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Patlal]
    #23838162 - 11/16/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:ohwell: could be a regional difference in terminology that's tripping us up. I know most people who didn't grow up with it are as likely as not to call any air or gas powered firearm a BB gun.


I try not to because there is a difference. You could hurt a small animal with a BB gun but you could kill it with a pellet gun. Knowing the difference is the difference between a redneck dinner and going out to eat.


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Sheekle] * 3
    #23838169 - 11/16/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Sheekle said:
Hahahahahahaha what the fuck kind of responses in this thread is this bullshit? i thought this was a joke thread.

oh yeah, let a hunch of fucking 6 year olds run around with guns:burke:




I'd trust a child with a gun over you with one :lol:

Nobody's talking about letting kids "run around with guns" we're talking about training them at a young age to know how to use them carefully and respect them.


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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Patlal]
    #23838171 - 11/16/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Also, I can defend my house with a BB gun just as I can with a 45. If I shoot a thief on the elbow with my BB rifle the guy would have to at least get out of the house to regroup.






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Re: Would you trust guns in the hands of children? (Under 6 to 8 years old) [Re: Crystal G]
    #23838174 - 11/16/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
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Patlal said:
I had a BB rifle when I was 7 years old and I regularly  fired buck shots with the super vision of my father. Everybody lived




BB guns aren't real guns... that's like the equivalent of owning a paintball gun.




so you'd rather teach people ignorance of firearms

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2297127/Boy-10-dies-brother-accidentally-shot-head-BB-gun.html
http://www.cbs46.com/story/23299569/1-year-old-child-shot-with-bb-gun-dies


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