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Re: Are geometric visuals a breakthrouh, or not? [Re: krypto2000]
    #23841878 - 11/17/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You will know when you break through. I smoked it probably 10 times thinking i was breaking through until it actually happened. When it happens you'll know. It's not like anything you have ever experienced. I really can't explain it. It's much more than visuals. You wouldn't even know what visuals are until you start coming out of it. Shit is absolutely crazy.


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Re: Are geometric visuals a breakthrouh, or not? [Re: toader123]
    #23842800 - 11/17/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Nope. I would consider closed eye visuals just the beginning. I've had OOB experiences which would blow anyone away. Wait until you actually feel like you have lost control of everything in this world and actually "break" into a new one. For me its always very aztec/egyptian.


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Re: Are geometric visuals a breakthrouh, or not? [Re: krypto2000]
    #23843321 - 11/17/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds cool but still more like an MDMA experience than a DMT breakthrough. I think you must only have experienced sub-breakthrough DMT doses if you think rainbow glares and illusions are comparable. MDMA can definitely be trippy; as trippy as shrooms, sure. But vaped DMT breakthroughs are on a completely different level of trippy.


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Re: Are geometric visuals a breakthrouh, or not? [Re: Icon]
    #23844176 - 11/18/16 05:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

A true breakthrough will have you feeling like you ripped part of a membrane or something in your brain as you come down from the DMT.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Are geometric visuals a breakthrouh, or not? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23855277 - 11/21/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

You are all saying closed eye visuals, but I was told my eyes were wide open the whole time and I had no clue where I was. The whole room was just patterns


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Re: Are geometric visuals a breakthrouh, or not? [Re: Jenjens]
    #23855316 - 11/21/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know if you brokethrough or not, I don't know if I have either. On my highest dose I saw geometric patterns everywhere, some wierd unfolding triagnular shapes constructing the world around me and some dancing and snickering black shadows, but I could still see the normal reality and communicate with my gf who was sitting nearby. To me asking if you broke through is like asking you you had an ego death experience, it's very subjective and doesn't really matter.


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Re: Are geometric visuals a breakthrouh, or not? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23855319 - 11/21/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
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Jenjens said:
Just wondering  if you smoke dmt and go "blind" and only see geometric patterns in your vision if that is considered a breakthrough?





No




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