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I believe sentience evolved.
#23836619 - 11/15/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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How is this irrational?
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: sudly] 1
#23836640 - 11/15/16 07:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: viktor]
#23836676 - 11/15/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's beautiful to think that once a salmon fish reaches the end of its life cycle it will return as nutrients.
Animals are brave and travelled souls.
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: sudly]
#23836699 - 11/15/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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its*
Might have to learn some primary school grammar if your triune brain thesis is going to shock the world as much as you think it will.
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: viktor] 2
#23836731 - 11/15/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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First there was the verb.
Then the noun was deemed necessary.
Much later the adverb and adjective were added.
This is how the sentence evolved.

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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: sudly] 1
#23836798 - 11/15/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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sudly said: How is this irrational?
How is it rational? Can you provide any actual evidence?
(The answer is no you can't).
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: sudly] 2
#23836908 - 11/15/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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to you I'm sure it is very rational to believe that, as for others it might be rational to believe the opposite. Rationality is only a tool that is as useful as the data and experiences it draws from. Otherwise it is a blind force imo. Some people have had experiences that lead them to believe reality is different than the way you view it. At the end of the day, both are beliefs... and each person will be drawn to a belief that fits their experiences and hopefully works well for them for the time being
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: viktor]
#23836997 - 11/15/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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viktor said: its*
Might have to learn some primary school grammar if your triune brain thesis is going to shock the world as much as you think it will.
Funny I didn't mention Triune in this post.
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Quote:
DividedQuantum said:
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sudly said: How is this irrational?
How is it rational? Can you provide any actual evidence?
(The answer is no you can't).
Evidence no but argument yes.
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: deff] 1
#23837006 - 11/15/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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deff said: to you I'm sure it is very rational to believe that, as for others it might be rational to believe the opposite. Rationality is only a tool that is as useful as the data and experiences it draws from. Otherwise it is a blind force imo. Some people have had experiences that lead them to believe reality is different than the way you view it. At the end of the day, both are beliefs... and each person will be drawn to a belief that fits their experiences and hopefully works well for them for the time being 
I respect that we all have the right to believe in what we want to believe in and my choice was to believe in evolution.
I don't need to prove sentience evolved I just need to argue it did.
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I think it's important to desensitise yourself to new ideas.
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: sudly]
#23837374 - 11/15/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Because I'am a monkey-fish.
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sudly
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Thank you for your ignorance.
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: sudly]
#23837435 - 11/16/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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hi there,
i also believe in evolution. But at the same time I also believe that de-evolution is possible, and this has been one of my major concerns for a very long time. I feel like I have been "de-evolving" as my brain has been degenerating from past substance abuse and my heart is closed and dead because of my relationship to others. I have been de-evolving and don't know the cure for this
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: mantis83]
#23837487 - 11/16/16 12:54 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would guess 'de-evolution' is caused by an over stimulated fight or flight response in a modern society that isn't physically dangerous in relation to our evolutionary hominid ancestors who lived in prehistoric conditions.
Instead of intermediate sensation you're probably looking for immediate sensation and you aren't living up to your expectations because of it.
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: mantis83]
#23837610 - 11/16/16 03:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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mantis83 said: hi there,
i also believe in evolution. But at the same time I also believe that de-evolution is possible, and this has been one of my major concerns for a very long time. I feel like I have been "de-evolving" as my brain has been degenerating from past substance abuse and my heart is closed and dead because of my relationship to others. I have been de-evolving and don't know the cure for this
My best advice is that you stop your immediate expectations because they are linked to your fight or flight response being stimulated and it's causing you anxiety.
Instead you should focus on developing and maintaining intermediate expectations.
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: sudly]
#23837744 - 11/16/16 05:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's also weird to think that genetically modified glow in the dark jellyfish sheep have existed since before 2013 but that's the science of evolution at work.
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: sudly]
#23837851 - 11/16/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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sudly said: Thank you for your ignorance.
let me be a mirror
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Re: I believe sentience evolved. [Re: mantis83]
#23837862 - 11/16/16 07:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you smoke tobacco there is a better solution.
I don't know why this surprised me but apparently tobacco companies add ammonium salts to their tobacco to increase the bioavailability of nicotine.
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'Addition of substances which increase the bioavailability of nicotine.' "Increase the bioavailability of nicotine by adding alkalising ingredients which increase the pH of tobacco (such as ammonium compounds). At higher pH (pH >8.0) more nicotine is in its free uncharged form, which would therefore more easily pass the (lung) membrane i.e. higher absorption leading to higher blood and brain nicotine levels. For details see section 3.8.3.2 on ammonia and other compounds affecting smoke pH." http://ec.europa.eu/health/scientific_committees/opinions_layman/tobacco/en/l-3/5.htm
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sudly
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You can be a mirror if you want to but that doesn't say anything against a belief that sentience evolved.
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