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ChuckFinn
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What am I doing wrong?
#23836140 - 11/15/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I travelled to 3 cities in the Pacific NW, two of them coastal and one a huge, sprawling metropolis further inland but still west of the cascades. I looked in every bed of woodchips I saw and discarded every mushroom I found because it was not what I sought. No bluing reactions, no purplish spore prints. Just a lot of galerinas and god knows what else. I went tromping around in a horse camp, kicking through grass and horse shit and was stopped and questioned by a Park Ranger who knew exactly what I was looking for. Luckily, I had not found anything worth bagging and thus after being searched could not be ticketed or detained. Then I went kicking through coastal grass dunes right where they should be and could not find a single specimen of any fungi, much less the prized one and only.
What am I doing wrong? Maybe they do not want me to find them.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: ChuckFinn]
#23836172 - 11/15/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're not looking hard enough or enough places and you're also being way to obvious at the coast. Getting patted down by a ranger is not good. Did they catch you in the dunes? It is also pretty far into season and some patches are pretty picked out. Do some walking around in the off season to look for potential spots and then come back next fall. Make a list, check it twice. That kind of shit ya know?
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ChuckFinn
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Sk8nshram]
#23836224 - 11/15/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wasn't searched at the dunes. I was searched at a horse camp in a small town further south. I was pretty careful in the dunes but didn't find anything there. I may or may not live up here and may or may not have spent a month searching through a certain huge metropolis well known in the region, finding nary a special cap.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: ChuckFinn]
#23836248 - 11/15/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So you traveled to the PNW for a month just to find mushrooms? About how many hours did you put in hunting?
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: ChuckFinn] 1
#23836283 - 11/15/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Look in municipal parks near waterways or riparian zones (I seem to have more luck in larger cites), cyanescens and other wood-lovers tend to grow in mostly broadleaf tree chips. Most cites turn downed limbs and trees into woodchips and use the chips as mulch, this method has always worked for me.
It takes some people years to find their first active mushroom, don't give up hope. If you were fishing and cast out a line and didn't catch anything you wouldn't give up fishing- this analogy hold true for mushroom hunting.
Don't bother looking in bark mulch. Also look and the base of dune grasses facing east that run directly adjacent to the coastline.
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maynardjameskeenan said: Look in municipal parks near waterways or riparian zones (I seem to have more luck in larger cites), cyanescens and other wood-lovers tend to grow in mostly broadleaf tree chips. Most cites turn downed limbs and trees into woodchips and use the chips as mulch, this method has always worked for me.
It takes some people years to find their first active mushroom, don't give up hope. If you were fishing and cast out a line and didn't catch anything you wouldn't give up fishing- this analogy hold true for mushroom hunting.
Don't bother looking in bark mulch. Also look and the base of dune grasses facing east that run directly adjacent to the coastline.
This guy knows what he is talking about! Great tips. It took me about 3 years before I found my first actives. I have mostly urban experience and i know that it can be hard catching the right patch at the right time. Lots of pickers (different than hunters in my opinion) out there in the cities, so you very well could have looked right at a patch and not have been able to see anything. Known patches that I stop by to take a peek can look like literally nothing was growing there.
In the end, it breaks down to a formula though.... the more you look the higher your chances are. BAM! Plain and simple... Especially if youre keeping it fresh and looking in new areas all the time. Looking outside of city parks can be a big help too ...
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ChuckFinn
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I say that I travelled there, but perhaps I only said that to conceal the fact that I am a resident of this fine locale, the PNW. Who can say? Certainly not me, because while I haven't eaten anything illegal, I have smoked a lot of another fantastic plant that, thank the Gods, is now legal in this great state, and having done so means that my memory suffers. I'd love to tell you that I travelled to Astoria, Tillamook, and Bandon, and that I live in a very large city further east of these -- but would that be a violation of the forum rules for newbs? I read those. I'm really not sure if it would be breaking them and having been warned once already, I say only that I travelled to this or that city in the PNW. Who knows which one is as much as I feel comfortable sharing, given the risk of being thrown out of this wonderful online community that I love so much.
That said, I have spent a lot of time up here. I put in at least 20 hours hunting over the last month, easy, most of them in a certain large metropolis west of the cascades and east of the coast where I may or may not live full time. In this great metropolis, there are tons of light colored woodchips spread all over the place like so much rice at a wedding. I understand that this far inland (where I certainly do not live) it's more difficult to find a particular variety known to live in wood chips, and maybe that's why I travelled to the coast. I'd love to see them at the very least. More than that, I'd love to take a spore sample and look at it under a microscope because I'm so very taken with the idea of studying spores under a microscope. I'd order some spores to my own place (which is certainly not in the PNW) but my significant other worries that to do so would cause pigs to come sniffing around for garbage.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: WhistyTak]
#23836362 - 11/15/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just some friendly advice. Be careful in the Dunes. They are often times watched. Don't even bother with pacific county, and Astoria can be risky. Carry binoculars. Know what is going on around you at all times. Good luck! It feels great when you make your first find.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23836822 - 11/15/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I went on my first hunt ever in Seattle 2 weeks ago and thought that there were absolutely no psilocybe mushrooms out there. The next day I walked to the park and on the way I found a small patch in a little garden in between some apartments. I also had a lot of luck looking in coastal tall grass right by the water, found like 30 in 2 hours. I recommend to just walk, walk, and walk some more.. I walked a good 6 miles in the city to find anything active.
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Also read up on the habitats, then look in all the places that no one would think of. There are a lot of shroom hunters in the PNW, so the obvious patches are usually picked fast.
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DavidReishi
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: ChuckFinn] 1
#23837218 - 11/15/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ChuckFinn said: That said, I have spent a lot of time up here. I put in at least 20 hours hunting over the last month, easy...
Well think about it like this. 20 hours is three days of hunting if you hunt 6-7 hours per day. And if you're a beginner, it's normal not to find anything new but every week or two no matter how much you hunt each day.
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You keep saying "stomping around." Maybe the mycelium's just pissed.
Seriously though, whitish wood mulch is what you are looking for. I like to look on the north side of buildings, walls, trees, bushes; the kind of spots that stay wet all day.
Focus on one species, and learn the habitat. Cyanescens are a great start. Learn it's indicator species.
Have fun, good luck, and happy hunting.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: ChuckFinn]
#23837662 - 11/16/16 03:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you're going to go kicking grass and stomping around then stay in the city and do that idiot shit there. I'm glad you didn't find any (but also glad you don't have court). A beginner going somewhere like Hammond or Astoria or the whole peninsula tbh is beyond foolish. Just stay away in general if you're going to treat the environs like shit. I bet you litter, kick over inactive mushrooms, and smoke in the grasses, too.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Adden] 1
#23837669 - 11/16/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Adden said: If you're going to go kicking grass and stomping around then stay in the city. I'm glad you didn't find any (but also glad you don't have court). A beginner going somewhere like Hammond or Astoria or the whole peninsula tbh is beyond foolish. Just stay away in general if you're going to treat the environs like shit. I bet you litter, kick over inactive mushrooms, and smoke in the grasses, too.
Lol bitter much Adden? Any luck lately? I'm off tomorrow tryng my best to sleep, but too excited. Gonna go kick that damn grass all over. Ahh sucks too I bet it's trampled to shit. Oh well that's the way it goes.
Edit: fuck it why sleep? I'm going now maybe it'll still be dark when I get there ill beat everyone to em. Hehe.
Oh and OP if you want to stay sane stop looking this is a mad sickness you don't want to catch.
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I've been doing fantastic all season, ever since first flushes in October and have pulled much more since. There was a 2 week lull and then back to work. Their growth rate changed after that unseasonably warm deal. My patches went from 3 days maturation back to six and now steady 3 to 4, getting slow as it gets colder. Soon some spots will be ten days if it doesn't freeze.
I'm not bitter and I'm not trying to be a dick to the kid, I'm just being honest about how I feel about these kinds of people.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Adden]
#23837702 - 11/16/16 04:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I found this on my car seat two weeks before Halloween. You know, a month ago.
How's your season?
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Adden]
#23837709 - 11/16/16 04:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Adden said: I've been doing fantastic all season, ever since first flushes in October and have pulled much more since. There was a 2 week lull and then back to work. Their growth rate changed after that unseasonably warm deal. My patches went from 3 days maturation back to six and now steady 3 to 4, getting slow as it gets colder. Soon some spots will be ten days if it doesn't freeze.
I'm not bitter and I'm not trying to be a dick to the kid, I'm just being honest about how I feel about these kinds of people.
I didn't think you were being a dick. It's funny us mushroom hunter hate seeing others pick mushrooms, maybe more than people who don't know anything. I used to give hints and show friends. Problem is they spend an hour if that looking somewhere random then head straight to where you showed them. They are like " hey went back to our patch and picked 10 pounds with my cousin". Two days later " shit went back figured it's the last day since it's raining so much and picked 40 pounds at our spot"." Oh you should see this giant cows brain". I Respond oh yea close to where we park it's been. Few years been waiting for it to POp back up"
Ugh got dressed smoked a cig back In bed with insomnia. Maybe I should just trip it's been a few years.
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I found this on my car seat two weeks before Halloween. You know, a month ago.
How's your season?

Nice I just hide them from the light of day.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: ChuckFinn]
#23837735 - 11/16/16 05:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ChuckFinn said: I'd love to tell you that I travelled to Astoria, Tillamook, and Bandon, and that I live in a very large city further east of these -- but would that be a violation of the forum rules for newbs?
No, naming a general region or area isn't violating the rules. As long as your descriptions don't guide people to certain specific locations, you're okay.
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I put in at least 20 hours hunting over the last month
These 20 hours plus are what you should spend picking, after you've found good locations. Just keep at it, you're bound to succeed at some point.
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ChuckFinn
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23837863 - 11/16/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks to all for the advice.
CF
Edited by ChuckFinn (11/16/16 07:13 AM)
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Groo
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: ChuckFinn]
#23838086 - 11/16/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Paulmoremoneythangod stamets really made it SEEM easy to find mushrooms in the wild. Although Paul S and a handful of skilled identifiers here porbably could go out in Washington state any day and find them. You have to establish a certain asshatness and rapport with the mushrooms before they will un camouflage themselves.
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DavidReishi
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Groo]
#23838112 - 11/16/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Groo said: Paulmoremoneythangod stamets really made it SEEM easy to find mushrooms in the wild. Although Paul S and a handful of skilled identifiers here porbably could go out in Washington state any day and find them. You have to establish a certain asshatness and rapport with the mushrooms before they will un camouflage themselves.
That can't be true. You're the biggest ass-hat here and you barely find shit.
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maynardjameskeenan
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You just need to know what signs to look for and where to look. There are some user on this site that could find actives in any city (in the valley and especially the coastal ones) you put them in within a few hours even if they've never been there before. It's not as difficult as some people make it out to be. It just like hunting anything else really. Study and familiarize yourself with your target and it's location.
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Visions710
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No disrespect intended, but personally, I think selling wild psychoactive mushrooms is kind of a dick move. I know a lot of people do it, but when you do do it, you deprive people who respect the habitats and just want to find their fair share. Just my opinion, and again no disrespect intended.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23838879 - 11/16/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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People can do as they please in my opinion, everyone's situation is different. The only problem I have with people picking mushrooms to sell is it can give other pickers a bad reputation, like we are all drug dealer or some shit. It also incentivizes over harvesting so there's really no longer a limit to the amount of mushrooms one needs in a season, which in-turn can damage mushroom populations. Just imagine what picking would be like if everyone in the area took every active they could find to make a buck? You think patches get raped now...
I certainly wouldn't boast about it on the internet, the NSA literally records everything you do online and that information can and is shared with local law enforcement but I assume people know the risks. We all probably do some things in our lives that others might not approve of, to each their own.
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Edited by maynardjameskeenan (11/16/16 01:50 PM)
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DavidReishi
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23838940 - 11/16/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Such ideas have little legitimacy outside the PNW, however. Take the S.F. Bay Area, for example. Aside from Golden Gate park and the most craziest of coincidences, there are no shared or commonly known "picking spots." Here, what you don't find rots, and even what you find is not seldomly half-rotting. No disrespect intended, but concerning yourself with how others spend their hard work is kind of a pussy move.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Adden]
#23838949 - 11/16/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This site has changed a lot over the years. There used to be respect for the mushroom. Now it seems people really are not out for anything more than a buck. When I first started following the site it was frowned upon to take every last specimen and definately nobody sold or bragged about selling them. I feel its still not cool. When mushrooms are sold it takes away the magic. Whatever. They should be a gift just like Mother Nature gifted them to you.
No disrespect.
My buddy calls it "white manning it". Take everything not just what is needed.
Lol when I see this

I think this
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maynardjameskeenan
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I declare shenanigans!
Weren't you the one who wanted to have a contest to see who could pick the most mushrooms this season just a few weeks ago?
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Hypocrite hypocrite
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maynardjameskeenan
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Binomial nomenclature
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Visions710
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Point taken. Calling something a dick move is inherently disrespectful. And some good points have been made. I personally won't take more than I need. I personally won't sell mushrooms because, as stated before, it does give hunters a bad name, not to mention I don't like jail, but I have to emphasize how many times I've been to the coast to find nothing anywhere. Maybe a few if I stay out there long enough, but nowhere near what should be there. I'm just saying if you really want to put yourself at risk selling mushrooms, why rape the land to make a buck when it's so easy to just grow them yourself?
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23839015 - 11/16/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think anyone's trying to "make a buck." That's silly. Do you have any idea how hard mushroom hunting is? How about sustained mushroom hunting?
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Visions710
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I do know how hard it is. But the more experienced you get, the easier it gets. Trust me, or don't, there are people who sell wild mushrooms. I know a few irl and on this and other boards that do.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23839076 - 11/16/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm sorry but I don't see anything inherently wrong with it. I think it's pretty awesome to know you're hunting for other people's psychedelic experiences which'll probably change their lives.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23839110 - 11/16/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Visions710 said: ...why rape the land ... when it's so easy to just grow them yourself?
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23839122 - 11/16/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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"Rape the land" is nonsense.
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Not only that, you're sticking to a narrative that's false. Namely, that the process goes: 1) want to "make a buck," 2) choose wild mushrooms, 3) go "rape the land." For otherwise, how could you suggest mushroom cultivation? It's absurd.
The real process goes more like this: 1) discover mushroom hunting as a means of joy, 2) get really good at it, 3) start to wonder what you're gunna do with the fruits of all your personal triumphs, 4) try to give 'em away but you don't necessarily know lots of users, 5) almost be ready to even chuck 'em all for freezer space, and 6) finally by an awesome coincidence find an outlet so others can enjoy your fruits, and you receive some token amount which is more than nothing, but little enough to keep you challenging yourself in the field for the health of your favorite hobby.
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Visions710
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I leave 90+% of what I find and still find joy in it. I give away most of what I grow, my friends have friends of friends. I'm tired of arguing my point, I don't think we are anywhere near on the same page so I respectfully agree to disagree.
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You are a strong minded person with a loud voice of opinion probably more so on the internet. Than in real life. I admire your tenacity, passion, and success for the hunt.
I definitely have more fun searching and playing with the mushrooms more than eating them.
Why be so hostile in your mannerisms?
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I want to know what I'm doing wrong too. I can certainly recognize cyans on sight and I'm putting in all the hours I can. I know what their general habitat is. Maybe it's just bad luck, but what I feel like I have a hard time with is the specific microhabitats to be looking in.
Given a promising mulched site, should I be taking the time to make a thorough search under all the lweeds, bushes, heavy leaf litter, and ferns? If so, which of those? Or if not, then what? Just scan the more open areas and move on? Also: is a quick search of lots of sites better than a thorough search of a few sites?
I guess it's kind of a time-management question. Not having the best luck this year, so please help me learn. I feel like I'm walking right by twenty times more cyans than I actually discover.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: candry]
#23839282 - 11/16/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Micro climates. A climate within a climate.
Usually corners of patches, under bushes. Mushrooms can grow in some pretty tricky environments and hide out of sight very well.
Remember you read about the mushrooms. But they don't read the books.
Underbushes near lush grasses. Look for lawns and sidewalks that are drenched wet. It's harder to find in the dry spells.
Look in wood chips that still have vibrant color. Black, natural,brown, red.
If they appear bleached.. You can bet you won't find anything good.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23839295 - 11/16/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Visions710 said: I leave 90+% of what I find and still find joy in it. I give away most of what I grow, my friends have friends of friends.
No offence, but I think you're kinda bullshitting us. You sound like someone who's really new to mushroom hunting, who does't have many or any finds at all under his belt, and who's bitter because of it and wants to lash out and disguise it as moralizing.
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I left this board when Hippie left. I mostly lurk. Some times I post. Mostly I don't. I found my first actives when I was 16 and have been hunting and finding ever since. I am in my 40s now. Please stop being so hostile toward me. You don't know me. I fully understand and respect your opinion, though I don't agree with it. Please respect mine.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23839374 - 11/16/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, I don't have to respect your opinion when it amounts to trying to start up an attack train against another member.
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maynardjameskeenan said: I declare shenanigans!
Weren't you the one who wanted to have a contest to see who could pick the most mushrooms this season just a few weeks ago?
Haha shenanigans I love that. Fuck I wanted an anonymous thread we could collect a combined weight of all hunters. That way we could get an idea of the dry combined weight for each season. Makes me laugh everyone keeps trying to make it like I was attempting to get a contest going. I thought it would be interesting and possibly useful for science if we could show yearly dry weight. Apparently it would be a contest.
I like the Hypocrite hypocrite remark. It made me smile.
I feel I derailed this thread possibly.
So a few pointers.
Hunt everyday no matter if you're on your way to the store, stopped at a red light walking to work. Whatever always keep your eyes peeled. Learn more than just cyans. Slow down when you feel something is there. I usually start my day if I'm strictly going for a hunt and I imagine the path I am going to take my final destination. Hunt till it's dark. All patches I have ever found are gaurded by something. Watchful parents, barking dogs, very common for some reason to have a wedding photo shoot or other photography nerd in the area, angry old people on a walk, early am they seem gaurded as well. I have yet to find a patch where I can sit down relax and chill with the mushrooms without someone coming around the corner. I can pass by a patch of wood chips realize it's gaurded my spidy senses will tingle and when I come back more often than not there is a patch just waiting for me.
Maybe we should just post how much cash we've made. That is a great idea for a contest. We can create the shroomery GDP. It could be the Gross Shroomery Product. The GSP.
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It's like you're itchin' for an ass whippin'.
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How can one not always keep one's eyes peeled?
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DavidReishi said: It's like you're itchin' for an ass whippin'.
Tough guy huh. I'm just as big of an ass in person not just online. Trust me people like to try. Ive always been down for a little excitement, but in my old age I've started to feel a little remorse. I might be just a little more tough online just like you. I'd say you're a bad ass I definately wouldn't want to fuck with you. I am scared, so please be nice big guy.
If I met you IRL Id be Down to chill and puff a bowl. Give me some tequila and things get weird.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Adden]
#23839705 - 11/16/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Total dick move, for sure. Turning the mushrooms into a commodity cheapens them. An even bigger dick move than shilling these things is to accuse others of disrespecting the land by littering on it and the rest -- when you know fuckall about the person. I bite my thumb at you, sir.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: ChuckFinn]
#23839730 - 11/16/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ChuckFinn said: Total dick move, for sure. Turning the mushrooms into a commodity cheapens them.
That means absolutely nothing.
On the other hand, you're 100% right about Adden's nastiness to you, which I was personally apalled by at the time and meant to say something. He equally acted an ass in a thread of mine.
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Yeah, I guess it's not a dick move. It's pretty normal.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: ChuckFinn]
#23839769 - 11/16/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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thumbs are gettin bit, shit's gettin real in here
Last time I expressed my opinions about selling foraged actives I got a warning... it's really none of my business what other people do so I won't speak to that.
On the topic of finding your first mushrooms a lot of good advice has been given. My 2 cents is look not just for mushrooms but for mycelium.
Woodlovers have strong, white, rhizomorphic mycelium. It looks more like roots than fuzz. Look for chip beds that have that kind of mycelium, it will not always belong to an active species but it means you're in the right area.
Sometimes you find them where you don't expect them.
The first time I saw cyans I was on my way to court for a traffic violation, my girlfriend was driving because I woke up drunk, and I spotted some caramel caps at a stop sign. From lurking on here, and looking at tons of pictures, I immediately recognized them and went back after dealin with the ticket.
That particular patch was actually in bark chips, it was an old bed that probably had woodchips underneath. I would have never looked there, but due to the circumstances of that morning I spotted them. That patch yielded the tiniest cyanescens I've ever seen.

There's a strange phenomenon of finding more patches easier once you've first found them. One of my friends likes to say the mushrooms find him.
I think once you've first found them you should be spore printing to verify your ID, and when you have spores you might as well put them back out into favorable environments. Also stembutts+eggcarton=WIN. I think most if not all woodlover patches I've found were made by people giving back.
Keep your head figuratively up and physically down and you'll find some.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Speckles]
#23839833 - 11/16/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just throwing out more ideas. Look where chipped mulch beds meet walls, buildings etc. Carry a hygrometer around with you and take readings in various places to get an idea where humidity is higher. It won't guarantee mushrooms will grow there, but it will show you another facet of what a potential habitat looks like along with other factors such as what else grows there etc.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23840023 - 11/16/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Visions710 said: Carry a hygrometer around with you and take readings in various places to get an idea where humidity is higher.
I gotta hand it to you, carrying around a hygrometer is superb advice. Even more so in the SF Bay area where it's all about micro-climates. I think I'll be getting one myself...I'm very interested in knowing the relative humidity in certain spots and types of spots. Thanks.
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DavidReishi said: It's like you're itchin' for an ass whippin'.
Tough guy huh. I'm just as big of an ass in person not just online. Trust me people like to try. Ive always been down for a little excitement, but in my old age I've started to feel a little remorse. I might be just a little more tough online just like you. I'd say you're a bad ass I definately wouldn't want to fuck with you. I am scared, so please be nice big guy.
If I met you IRL Id be Down to chill and puff a bowl. Give me some tequila and things get weird.
I'd like to go back to liking you, which I did before you jumped on the attack-train in my Azzie thread. That shit was wrong. Most of those a-holes have been a-holes to me from the day I arrived two years ago. My only crime: finding mushrooms, lots of 'em.
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DavidReishi said: My only crime: finding mushrooms, lots of 'em.
I think that would be an example for a reason I would fuck with you. Who really cares? maybe the people trying to learn? I personally need a good trip, it's been years and I'm more cynical than I should be. Also it feels like you haven't fully tripped and let go of that annoying ass ego that plagues us all.
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Visions710 said: Carry a hygrometer around with you and take readings in various places to get an idea where humidity is higher.
I gotta hand it to you, carrying around a hygrometer is superb advice. Even more so in the SF Bay area where it's all about micro-climates. I think I'll be getting one myself...I'm very interested in knowing the relative humidity in certain spots and types of spots. Thanks.
Are you going to attack every post I make from now on because you are butt hurt for some reason no one can articulate? What are you 4 years old? Grow up. Learn to let it go man. Smoke a bowl. Relax a little bit. OP is from the PNW. I'm not going to respond to you any more, unless you are willing to be civil. I stopped caring a while ago. Learn to be a decent human being instead of stomping your feet and shouting "No, I don't hafta, I don't wanna" you are embarrassing no one but yourself.
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It's not an ego but a person's dignity that you try to take when you pull that crap, which is plain to see also in the present thread. And that'll never work with me.
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Um...Visions710, I was being sincere.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: DavidReishi] 1
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Lol...imperfect timing. You're supposed to wait till he responds.
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I was replying to this post. If you click the Re: hyperlink above a post you'll know which specific post someone is responding to.
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My bad then. I apologize. It's difficult to read sarcasm if you know what I mean. Can we move forward and be friends, even if our opinions differ in some respects?
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23840182 - 11/16/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Visions710 said: My bad then. I apologize. It's difficult to read sarcasm if you know what I mean. Can we move forward and be friends, even if our opinions differ in some respects?
Yes, let's.
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Visions710 said: My bad then. I apologize. It's difficult to read sarcasm if you know what I mean. Can we move forward and be friends, even if our opinions differ in some respects?
Yes, let's.
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#23840195 - 11/16/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Visions710 said: Just throwing out more ideas. Look where chipped mulch beds meet walls, buildings etc. Carry a hygrometer around with you and take readings in various places to get an idea where humidity is higher. It won't guarantee mushrooms will grow there, but it will show you another facet of what a potential habitat looks like along with other factors such as what else grows there etc.
Stuff like this can be found on climatedata.org, or finds from previous years threads can be studied for habitat photos, check mushroomobserver.org and study this type of information. Identify and wiki plants that grow where your mushrooms do and learn your different types of trees. That's honestly one of the most important things in some cases. Then use the search engine here and try things like psilocybe azurescens rock hill park and see what comes up. Or use the search engine for counties.
Then skim those threads and see who tends to get more particular and obvious about their stuff. So you find pictures on mushroomobserver.org, come to this website, use the search engine for Rock Hill county or Rock Hill park and see if you can find even more specific areas. Or if someone mentions it's a cemetery behind a school that used to be a dorm for a college that no longer exists.. then you go to these areas and you find mushrooms.
And for the record your first posts made it out to be like you were screwing around (something made the ranger stop you).. but keep in mind we see shitty people like that all season and they stomp grasses down, litter, smoke, leave it obvious where they were hunting or walking, then next thing you know their friends are there and now no one can enjoy it. Sorry for jumping to conclusions OP.
Fuckin, anyway, OP you also might just be hunting wrong too, like not getting the right vantage point to check out a slope or the other side of a park near ivy growth.
If you want, take your camera out with you next time and take pictures of the places you look. We can help you figure out if you're in the right places. In the meantime don't forget to check out mushroomobserver.org, use the search engine and look at the Actives threads from previous years, use climatedata.org and cross reference those finds on those days with that kind of weather and you'll have a much better grasp on things. There's also an Images Only icon on the top right of the page, so you can narrow both your searches by removing posts with no pictures and studying the habitat.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Adden]
#23840229 - 11/16/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Visions710 said: Just throwing out more ideas. Look where chipped mulch beds meet walls, buildings etc. Carry a hygrometer around with you and take readings in various places to get an idea where humidity is higher. It won't guarantee mushrooms will grow there, but it will show you another facet of what a potential habitat looks like along with other factors such as what else grows there etc.
Stuff like this can be found on climatedata.org, or finds from previous years threads can be studied for habitat photos, check mushroomobserver.org and study this type of information. Identify and wiki plants that grow where your mushrooms do and learn your different types of trees. That's honestly one of the most important things in some cases. Then use the search engine here and try things like psilocybe azurescens rock hill park and see what comes up. Or use the search engine for counties.
Then skim those threads and see who tends to get more particular and obvious about their stuff. So you find pictures on mushroomobserver.org, come to this website, use the search engine for Rock Hill county or Rock Hill park and see if you can find even more specific areas. Or if someone mentions it's a cemetery behind a school that used to be a dorm for a college that no longer exists.. then you go to these areas and you find mushrooms.
And for the record your first posts made it out to be like you were screwing around (something made the ranger stop you).. but keep in mind we see shitty people like that all season and they stomp grasses down, litter, smoke, leave it obvious where they were hunting or walking, then next thing you know their friends are there and now no one can enjoy it. Sorry for jumping to conclusions OP.
Fuckin, anyway, OP you also might just be hunting wrong too, like not getting the right vantage point to check out a slope or the other side of a park near ivy growth.
If you want, take your camera out with you next time and take pictures of the places you look. We can help you figure out if you're in the right places. In the meantime don't forget to check out mushroomobserver.org, use the search engine and look at the Actives threads from previous years, use climatedata.org and cross reference those finds on those days with that kind of weather and you'll have a much better grasp on things. There's also an Images Only icon on the top right of the page, so you can narrow both your searches by removing posts with no pictures and studying the habitat.
And for the other matter, David, I've made it clear to you that the thread in which I was rude to you was because you - once again - went flying off the handle, viciously attacking trusted identifiers and people I consider friends as well as valuable members of this forum. You went off for pages baiting and flaming people and you have a history of this, which is why you're an opt out, since for some reason it hurts your feelings when people tell you how much of a disturbance you can be.
And for the selling thing, I give most of my mushrooms away all season, it's not my fault someone threw a lot of money in the wrong car window. But also its fucked up to just make amends over your flame fest and then you walk in here and bring the subject up again. What for?
I've been on mushroomobserver for quite a while now. I realize what you are saying though. I was just trYing to give an experience based method to learn vs a research based method. Research + experience > either on their own.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23840259 - 11/16/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Let me clarify further. I don't mean drive to a town and pull out your hygrometer, take a reading, then move on to the next town. I mean what's the rh over by that tree vs over by that brick wall. Near the ground vs 6 feet up in the air. And combine those readings with what you observe in your surroundings.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23840398 - 11/16/16 11:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I get and dig what you're saying, I'm just offering some picking advice for anyone in the thread who needs it.
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: ChuckFinn]
#23840618 - 11/17/16 02:57 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ChuckFinn said: I travelled to 3 cities in the Pacific NW, two of them coastal and one a huge, sprawling metropolis further inland but still west of the cascades. I looked in every bed of woodchips I saw and discarded every mushroom I found because it was not what I sought. No bluing reactions, no purplish spore prints. Just a lot of galerinas and god knows what else. I went tromping around in a horse camp, kicking through grass and horse shit and was stopped and questioned by a Park Ranger who knew exactly what I was looking for. Luckily, I had not found anything worth bagging and thus after being searched could not be ticketed or detained. Then I went kicking through coastal grass dunes right where they should be and could not find a single specimen of any fungi, much less the prized one and only.
What am I doing wrong? Maybe they do not want me to find them.
Could be timing . In my area it isnt cold enough yet.
Also check local parks its your best bet. ive found two active species in my local parks.
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