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DavidReishi
Mediocrity Extraordinaire


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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Groo]
#23838112 - 11/16/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Groo said: Paulmoremoneythangod stamets really made it SEEM easy to find mushrooms in the wild. Although Paul S and a handful of skilled identifiers here porbably could go out in Washington state any day and find them. You have to establish a certain asshatness and rapport with the mushrooms before they will un camouflage themselves.
That can't be true. You're the biggest ass-hat here and you barely find shit.
-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
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maynardjameskeenan
The white stipes



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You just need to know what signs to look for and where to look. There are some user on this site that could find actives in any city (in the valley and especially the coastal ones) you put them in within a few hours even if they've never been there before. It's not as difficult as some people make it out to be. It just like hunting anything else really. Study and familiarize yourself with your target and it's location.
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Visions710
Obsessive Hunter


Registered: 11/06/15
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No disrespect intended, but personally, I think selling wild psychoactive mushrooms is kind of a dick move. I know a lot of people do it, but when you do do it, you deprive people who respect the habitats and just want to find their fair share. Just my opinion, and again no disrespect intended.
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maynardjameskeenan
The white stipes



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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23838879 - 11/16/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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People can do as they please in my opinion, everyone's situation is different. The only problem I have with people picking mushrooms to sell is it can give other pickers a bad reputation, like we are all drug dealer or some shit. It also incentivizes over harvesting so there's really no longer a limit to the amount of mushrooms one needs in a season, which in-turn can damage mushroom populations. Just imagine what picking would be like if everyone in the area took every active they could find to make a buck? You think patches get raped now...
I certainly wouldn't boast about it on the internet, the NSA literally records everything you do online and that information can and is shared with local law enforcement but I assume people know the risks. We all probably do some things in our lives that others might not approve of, to each their own.
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Edited by maynardjameskeenan (11/16/16 01:50 PM)
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DavidReishi
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23838940 - 11/16/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Such ideas have little legitimacy outside the PNW, however. Take the S.F. Bay Area, for example. Aside from Golden Gate park and the most craziest of coincidences, there are no shared or commonly known "picking spots." Here, what you don't find rots, and even what you find is not seldomly half-rotting. No disrespect intended, but concerning yourself with how others spend their hard work is kind of a pussy move.
-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
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Hunter hunter
See er


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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Adden]
#23838949 - 11/16/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This site has changed a lot over the years. There used to be respect for the mushroom. Now it seems people really are not out for anything more than a buck. When I first started following the site it was frowned upon to take every last specimen and definately nobody sold or bragged about selling them. I feel its still not cool. When mushrooms are sold it takes away the magic. Whatever. They should be a gift just like Mother Nature gifted them to you.
No disrespect.
My buddy calls it "white manning it". Take everything not just what is needed.
Lol when I see this

I think this
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Edited by Hunter hunter (11/16/16 02:12 PM)
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maynardjameskeenan
The white stipes



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I declare shenanigans!
Weren't you the one who wanted to have a contest to see who could pick the most mushrooms this season just a few weeks ago?
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DavidReishi
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Hypocrite hypocrite
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maynardjameskeenan
The white stipes



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Binomial nomenclature
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Visions710
Obsessive Hunter


Registered: 11/06/15
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Loc: Mason county, WA
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Point taken. Calling something a dick move is inherently disrespectful. And some good points have been made. I personally won't take more than I need. I personally won't sell mushrooms because, as stated before, it does give hunters a bad name, not to mention I don't like jail, but I have to emphasize how many times I've been to the coast to find nothing anywhere. Maybe a few if I stay out there long enough, but nowhere near what should be there. I'm just saying if you really want to put yourself at risk selling mushrooms, why rape the land to make a buck when it's so easy to just grow them yourself?
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DavidReishi
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23839015 - 11/16/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think anyone's trying to "make a buck." That's silly. Do you have any idea how hard mushroom hunting is? How about sustained mushroom hunting?
-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
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Visions710
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I do know how hard it is. But the more experienced you get, the easier it gets. Trust me, or don't, there are people who sell wild mushrooms. I know a few irl and on this and other boards that do.
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DavidReishi
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23839076 - 11/16/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm sorry but I don't see anything inherently wrong with it. I think it's pretty awesome to know you're hunting for other people's psychedelic experiences which'll probably change their lives.
-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
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Visions710
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23839110 - 11/16/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Visions710 said: ...why rape the land ... when it's so easy to just grow them yourself?
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DavidReishi
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: Visions710]
#23839122 - 11/16/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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"Rape the land" is nonsense.
-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
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DavidReishi
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Not only that, you're sticking to a narrative that's false. Namely, that the process goes: 1) want to "make a buck," 2) choose wild mushrooms, 3) go "rape the land." For otherwise, how could you suggest mushroom cultivation? It's absurd.
The real process goes more like this: 1) discover mushroom hunting as a means of joy, 2) get really good at it, 3) start to wonder what you're gunna do with the fruits of all your personal triumphs, 4) try to give 'em away but you don't necessarily know lots of users, 5) almost be ready to even chuck 'em all for freezer space, and 6) finally by an awesome coincidence find an outlet so others can enjoy your fruits, and you receive some token amount which is more than nothing, but little enough to keep you challenging yourself in the field for the health of your favorite hobby.
-------------------- Species found in the Bay area: P. allenii, P. cyanescens, P. ovoideocystidiata, P. stuntzii, P. azurescens
Edited by DavidReishi (11/16/16 03:48 PM)
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Visions710
Obsessive Hunter


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I leave 90+% of what I find and still find joy in it. I give away most of what I grow, my friends have friends of friends. I'm tired of arguing my point, I don't think we are anywhere near on the same page so I respectfully agree to disagree.
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WhyDidiDoThis
Bay Area Mushroom Collector


Registered: 11/26/14
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You are a strong minded person with a loud voice of opinion probably more so on the internet. Than in real life. I admire your tenacity, passion, and success for the hunt.
I definitely have more fun searching and playing with the mushrooms more than eating them.
Why be so hostile in your mannerisms?
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candry
Stranger

Registered: 09/29/15
Posts: 102
Loc: WA, USA
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I want to know what I'm doing wrong too. I can certainly recognize cyans on sight and I'm putting in all the hours I can. I know what their general habitat is. Maybe it's just bad luck, but what I feel like I have a hard time with is the specific microhabitats to be looking in.
Given a promising mulched site, should I be taking the time to make a thorough search under all the lweeds, bushes, heavy leaf litter, and ferns? If so, which of those? Or if not, then what? Just scan the more open areas and move on? Also: is a quick search of lots of sites better than a thorough search of a few sites?
I guess it's kind of a time-management question. Not having the best luck this year, so please help me learn. I feel like I'm walking right by twenty times more cyans than I actually discover.
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WhyDidiDoThis
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Re: What am I doing wrong? [Re: candry]
#23839282 - 11/16/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Micro climates. A climate within a climate.
Usually corners of patches, under bushes. Mushrooms can grow in some pretty tricky environments and hide out of sight very well.
Remember you read about the mushrooms. But they don't read the books.
Underbushes near lush grasses. Look for lawns and sidewalks that are drenched wet. It's harder to find in the dry spells.
Look in wood chips that still have vibrant color. Black, natural,brown, red.
If they appear bleached.. You can bet you won't find anything good.
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