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stzacrack
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Methamphetamine ?
#23835348 - 11/15/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can someone explain to me the different effects of methamphetamine as compared to say add amphetamines, taking route of administration into consideration?
Never used meth, never even seen it where I live on the east coast, but my initial impression is that of some super ugly drug. But my gut tells me its just adderall on steroids
I'm not an upper guy, uppers make me uncomfortable and anti social, just never understood the dark perception people always have when they hear about meth
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Re: Methamphetamine ? [Re: stzacrack]
#23835373 - 11/15/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Biggest main differences I can point out are meth's greater euphoria and fiendish nature. It's not nearly as bad compared to ADD meds as its made out to be though. Just like comparing heroin to something like oxy..it's the bad press it gets that makes it seem so much worse by comparison.
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Re: Methamphetamine ? [Re: Eminence]
#23835414 - 11/15/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Meth is very, very easy to get strung out on if you have that kind of personality
Some people just don't like it which is understandable but for some people they try it and just get hooked instantly
It can drive you completely insane if you let it.. Amphetamine psychosis is no joke, I've experienced it myself and I never want to go back to that state of mind
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Re: Methamphetamine ? [Re: stzacrack] 1
#23835424 - 11/15/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Meth: Not even nine times.
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Eminence



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Yeah, amp psychosis is weeeeiiirdd. Made me extremely aggressive and the hallucinations were just fucking bizarre.
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Re: Methamphetamine ? [Re: Eminence]
#23835451 - 11/15/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some people get possessed by demonic entities and shit like that
That's usually caused by the cathinones though, such as bath salts and flakka
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Re: Methamphetamine ? [Re: Shiithead]
#23835486 - 11/15/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shiithead said: Meth: Not even nine times.
Hahahahaha
Made me smile
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Mush 4 Brains
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Is it me or is there a thread like this every month?
Meth is on my list of drugs I'll never do. No meth and no crack for me. Stimulants are grimey and make me feel all paranoid and uncomfortable.
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As everyone knows, I firmly believe that meth is an unfairly stigmatized drug and it's bad reputation is nothing more than judgmental drug elitism and fear mongering propaganda.
In reality it's not any better or worse than any other drug. as long as you exercise a modicum of self control you won't get addicted. really MDMA is more fiendish than meth.
Everything I said above is the opposite of the truth , but all the absurd statements above are things many people have actually said to me many times, and they are absolutely wrong.
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Mush 4 Brains
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Re: Methamphetamine ? [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23835701 - 11/15/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Agreed. There are two kinds of meth users, the ones who have come to see the folly of their ways and the ones who are soon to.
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Eminence



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Or the third option..people who are able to use it occasionally and never develop any problems with it
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Re: Methamphetamine ? [Re: Eminence]
#23835721 - 11/15/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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A meaningless statistical outlier at best, a complete and harmful myth at Worst.
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Re: Methamphetamine ? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23835745 - 11/15/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Meth is disgusting
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Re: Methamphetamine ? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23835791 - 11/15/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: A meaningless statistical outlier at best, a complete and harmful myth at Worst.
We might be rare, but we exist. Got a meth dealer's number who I can get to drop some off within half an hour if I wanted, but haven't touched the stuff in months. Same deal with my heroin guy
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Re: Methamphetamine ? [Re: Eminence]
#23835935 - 11/15/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can get 2.5 grams of straight fentanyl that will give you the best high of your life for 160 dollars. Ive been tempted and tonight has been hard for me to say no
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Bullshit, you're bein lied to or that's some fentanyl analog from the internet. Also fentanyl kinda sucks when it comes to opiates for me, I'd much rather pay for opana, oxies, or H, in that order.
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Yuck! I think you're exaggerating with it being the best high. I never would stay conscious long enough to really enjoy my fent laced h. Oh and then your tolerence sky rockets everytime you do it.
Everyones different, i cant picture stimulants giving me the best high but for some people it does. And i think with opiates you kinda have to be addicted to really appreciate the high. A lot of euphoria comes from just killing off withdrawal symptoms.
Doing opiates for me is like scratching at your poison ivy rash. In your head you know scratching the rash is only damaging your skin further, and the relief will be short lived if you do scratch yet you can't help but scratch more and more til youve really damaged your skin and spread the rash more.
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Re: Methamphetamine ? [Re: Eminence]
#23836040 - 11/15/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its not straight 100% uncut fent but it is fentanyl. it doesnt come up as H on a drug test and its clearly different. its much much cleaner than H and the rush is amazing...only downside is, is that it doesnt last as long.
its fentanyl. i am sure of it. MA is flooded with it
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Meth lacked a lot that say amphetamines like speed past has to offer IMO. The euphoria was greater but being spun for hours on end long after the high wears off sucks. Speed I find is easy to sleep on after you come down and smoke a couple bowls, but a couple lines of meth will keep me up 20+ hours. Also with speed I find it less scattering in your head, I feel its something you could easily write a book on or have deep intense conversations with somebody. I used to watch documentaries while cranked on speed for hours. To me there is a big difference but the high itself is almost the same in the sense that you're on an amphetamine. The after effects are where the real difference lies for me.
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Quote:
Mush 4 Brains said: Is it me or is there a thread like this every month?
Meth is on my list of drugs I'll never do. No meth and no crack for me. Stimulants are grimey and make me feel all paranoid and uncomfortable.
That's only like one thousandth or less of the number of threads on Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, and meth is much less destructive to society than either.
I always liked cocaine better because it wears off quicker. I am in it for the rush, not the shitty high.
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Re: Methamphetamine ? [Re: stzacrack]
#23836217 - 11/15/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldn't really call it adderall on steroids maybe molly on steroids minus the psychedelia.
Adderall has never felt like amphetamines to me and though it is technically an amphetamine it sure doesn't feel like one. To me adderall just feels like low level cocaine, just like the boring version of coke but definitely never anything comparable to meth or amphetamines.
The only common drug I can compare meth to is MDMA.
In terms of amphetamines vs methamphetamine idk...
I've only done actual meth once and oddly enough it didn't seem to create as much anxiety as the normal amphetamines. And though the normal amphetamines didn't keep me up for days like meth did they did produce kind of a crazier high in a way, meth just felt like being extremely awake, stimulated and whatever but amphetamines felt kind of like a rollercoaster and were kinda scary, felt more like an adrenaline rush and more short-lived.
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I stayed up for 3 days str8 on meth once and started seeing secret agents in the trees, watching me with binoculars
It was horrific
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ModestMouse said: A bit crass but true.
The day is Monday, dire straights but i've held my guard. Haven't bought more meth, and I just railed my last bump moments ago.
We bought a 750 piece puzzle, and have been intermittently working on it (not looking at the box, this shit's tough). Should have went with 500 pieces.
The couch was tough to move but the three of us managed. 10 fucking blocks later. We took a few pitstops because we thought we saw money in the leaves, and because our hands were killing us. While we were nearing the house I thought I saw a massive fuckin dog blocking the path, my friend, "B" , saw it too. Nearly shit ourselves, it looked like it was standing so still, poised for attack! Luckily it was just a fallen tree branch.
By the time we moved the couch "J" had gotten home from some rando's house. We were happy to see a new face so late/early in the morning! Especially since it's J, and he's down for anything all the time, except meth he fears meth (good). Then my buddy T hit me up and told me he couldn't sleep, we invited him over and gave him a small bump. Then the 5 of us cruised out to Walmart and had a grand time looking at everything and buying random shit.
J made out the best with the shopping, being that he wasn't tweaking, managed to actually buy necessary things (chicken). B ended up buying a green lightbulb and a pack of playing cards, T bought crayons and a blank sketchpad + some food, S wandered around for a half hour, got lost from the pack, thought to be kidnapped for a brief second, and then was found outside the building smoking a cigarette. I got a chessboard for our apartment, 96 crayons and a sketchpad, a 5-in-1 movie collection containing 70-80's movies i've never heard of, and the aforementioned puzzle from hell. Overall it was a good time, then we tried to go to Salv Army but it was closed.
Managed to get 8 hours of sleep last night. Felt like shit this morning til I finished the bag, but I've got 2-fma to turn to as a sort of tweakers taper.
Dont miss those days
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OhMrJohnson said: I stayed up for 3 days str8 on meth once and started seeing secret agents in the trees, watching me with binoculars
It was horrific
That was me and modest mouse. We're not secret agents, we were just curious.
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Re: Methamphetamine ? [Re: Shiithead]
#23841990 - 11/17/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shiithead said: Meth: Not even nine times.
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