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cronicr



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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
#23836024 - 11/15/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pretty much his whole statement lol
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ComebackKid
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Hey Cron, if you believe what I said to be a bunch of horse shit I won't argue, but I'd appreciate you letting me know where I went wrong with that post so I can stop giving horse shit advice...
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cronicr



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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23836041 - 11/15/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cakes are not bacterial unless you made them that way and anytime you add more food more water n more surface area your gonna get more mushrooms.
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: cronicr]
#23836055 - 11/15/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: Cakes are not bacterial unless you made them that way and anytime you add more food more water n more surface area your gonna get more mushrooms.
Sooo, bulk is possible? Maybe Lobi's tek? looks very interesting.
So much confusion. Many people bleieve many different things. I'm confident i made my cakes very sterile.
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Edited by Dmt_psilocybin (11/15/16 04:21 PM)
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: Dmt_psilocybin]
#23836115 - 11/15/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay I should have clarified. Everything that I said was under the assumption that you made your PF cakes from spore syringes OP. I apologize If you made your cakes with clean LC then spawn away. It's in my personal experience that spawning, bacterial, spore syringe made, cakes to bulk actually dwindled yields.
I was also under the assumption that coir had no nutes which is why we are able to spawn in open air environments...
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23836205 - 11/15/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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No diff from lc or spores. .if the syringe is clean in either it's clean....end of story. Coir is spawned in open air because contams will not germinate on it
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: cronicr]
#23836231 - 11/15/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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 Then why do we even fuck with agar if spore syringes have been clean this whole time? You're telling me you would reccomend making LC from spores? You would reccomend inoculating grain spawn with spores?
It was my understanding that spore syringes were bacterial. But I'm just a noob
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23836241 - 11/15/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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We're talking cakes to bulk that were made with spores. You're talking about spores to LC and grains that's something different
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ComebackKid
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23836260 - 11/15/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not trying to be argumentitave here, but where does the bacteria go when you inoculate PF cakes over LC or grains... just trying to find some sort of reason so I can grasp this concept
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23836270 - 11/15/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ComebackKid said:
 Then why do we even fuck with agar if spore syringes have been clean this whole time? You're telling me you would reccomend making LC from spores? You would reccomend inoculating grain spawn with spores?
It was my understanding that spore syringes were bacterial. But I'm just a noob 
Not every syringe is dirty or vendors would not have a business. ..they carry more risk but that's about it but if a syringe is clean why bother with lc?
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23836280 - 11/15/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ComebackKid said: Not trying to be argumentitave here, but where does the bacteria go when you inoculate PF cakes over LC or grains... just trying to find some sort of reason so I can grasp this concept
Cakes mitigate bacteria but anyway you can spawn not 100% clean spawn and still get flushes. But you can't inoculate a LC with something not 100% clean
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: cronicr]
#23836287 - 11/15/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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to answer OP, I recently spawned cakes to coir...cakes that actually were bacterial as hell and I got 2 decent flushes from them. it is possible. however using cakes alone you can and will get more flushes.
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: wild child]
#23836293 - 11/15/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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How many cakes did you use to how much coir and what size tub? Just interested
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23836297 - 11/15/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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True. Okay okay thanks for that guys. I apologize OP if I confused you in any way. As you can see we're all learning here
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Shineonyoucrazy said: How many cakes did you use to how much coir and what size tub? Just interested
only used 2 cakes because they were bacterial from the beginning, it was just an experiment cause I was gonna throw them out anyways...it wasnt a tub...just a little container ..so not much coir at all. but they produced nicely. I am actually doing it again with even worse cakes lol I used 5 this time.
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cronicr



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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: ComebackKid]
#23836306 - 11/15/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's been a bad rep on the boards lately where people seem to think every syringe is contaminated..this simply needs to be put to rest they carry a higher risk but that's really about it....if they work they work but use agar and skip the guessing games
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: cronicr]
#23836314 - 11/15/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you use 5 you think you could half damions 5050 elementary coir tek? Or would that be to much coir?
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Damion5050's coir Tek. Nothing to do with 50/50 5 cakes I would use like 1/4 brick
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23836342 - 11/15/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Damion5050's coir Tek. Nothing to do with 50/50 5 cakes I would use like 1/4 brick
yeah what he said.
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Re: Can i birth these cakes to bulk yet? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23836345 - 11/15/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know its not a 5050 mix its 1 brick to 2 qts verm to 4 qt water so I'll just quarter that ratio sometime and give it a try. Maybe next round cause im trying pe cakes and i know they go better as bulk
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