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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: 404]
    #23869833 - 11/26/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

If the point was to respect psychedelic drugs, why do you find it appropriate to be calling people ignorant for saying mushrooms are safe.

Saying that something is safe, is not the same as saying something is without risks.

I figured it was implied I understood the commonsense risks you bring up, but that was my mistake.


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #23869853 - 11/26/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

wouldn't safe almost imply "without risks?" that's how i read it, anyway. I also never said anyone was ignorant, if that was directed at me.


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: 404]
    #23869871 - 11/26/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Would you say driving is safe?

You responded to my post with reasons for why mushrooms can be seen as dangerous. So I thought you found my "notlikly" gif inaccurate.


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #23869918 - 11/26/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

>>Would you say driving is safe?

No, not in the least. Especially where I live, people regularly try to kill me while I'm driving.


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: 404]
    #23870017 - 11/26/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It's clear to me that you are experiencing some kind of paranoid neurosis.

:freud:

It explains why you fail to follow my line of reasoning.


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #23870175 - 11/26/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:lol: prob not. people are crazy as hell in florida. could be the aspie thing though, but i tend to try to use as much logical reasoning as possible.


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: 404]
    #23870208 - 11/26/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I did not know you had aspergers 404


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: Grateful Dead] * 1
    #23875751 - 11/28/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Not saying it in a sense that's demeaning, I just meant if you didn't have a care in the world before you tripped, without taking any precaution, there are some risks that could be negative. Not putting them in bar with crack or meth, just stating there not 100% safe.


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: Grateful Dead] * 1
    #23875761 - 11/28/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

And it'd be even worse for someone to say driving is "safe". There's a thousand fold more risks regarding driving.


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: Rollin.n.Strollin]
    #23876546 - 11/28/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Not saying it in a sense that's demeaning, I just meant if you didn't have a care in the world before you tripped, without taking any precaution, there are some risks that could be negative. Not putting them in bar with crack or meth, just stating there not 100% safe.




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Wow...so...you agree with me?

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And it'd be even worse for someone to say driving is "safe". There's a thousand fold more risks regarding driving.




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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #23877118 - 11/29/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Pretty much. Not saying people should stay away with them because they fry your brain cells and you could get stuck in a trip for eternity. Just a little awareness and respect for something that's so awesome.


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: Rollin.n.Strollin]
    #23877286 - 11/29/16 05:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, I didn't mean to be so combative by the way.

When you said that it was ignorant to believe they are safe, I figured you weighed the pros and cons and judged them to be overall dangerous.

Just like when I said they are safe, I expected everyone to assume I also weighted the pros and cons.

That was my bad, I should not make so many assumptions.

I just didn't want OP to take his condition seriously, because it is abnormal.


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #23877305 - 11/29/16 05:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

This is why i never trip without emergency benzos at hand. Even in the most perfect circumstances things can go south pretty quickly


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23877319 - 11/29/16 05:53 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

How often have you had to use the emergency benzos?

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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #23877323 - 11/29/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23877325 - 11/29/16 06:02 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

:nodofunderstanding:

Case in point.


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #23877330 - 11/29/16 06:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Just having them makes me feel at ease


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #23879807 - 11/29/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Ok, I didn't mean to be so combative by the way.

When you said that it was ignorant to believe they are safe, I figured you weighed the pros and cons and judged them to be overall dangerous.

Just like when I said they are safe, I expected everyone to assume I also weighted the pros and cons.

That was my bad, I should not make so many assumptions.

I just didn't want OP to take his condition seriously, because it is abnormal.



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Ok, I didn't mean to be so combative by the way.

When you said that it was ignorant to believe they are safe, I figured you weighed the pros and cons and judged them to be overall dangerous.

Just like when I said they are safe, I expected everyone to assume I also weighted the pros and cons.

That was my bad, I should not make so many assumptions.

I just didn't want OP to take his condition seriously, because it is abnormal.




Nah all cool, I should have elaborated a little better on it haha.


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: DustJuice]
    #23880954 - 11/30/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Sounds like you do have some issues.




+1

If you are crazy OP why would you indulge somemore? Get your crazy under control. For the record, I think everyone is a bit crazy. Its a problem when you cannot function in a job and around people or you become unsafe to yourself or others.

Meditate.


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Re: Consequences of a paniv attack on Shrooms [Re: Trippedytrip]
    #23898907 - 12/06/16 03:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Took shrooms 2,5-3g .
Panicked on the comeup due to the situation in the moment , way to overwhelming and chaotic and stressfull.

Since that day i have never come down , i am still in the high .
My reality is shroomerish , a reality realer than ours , i am not really i side my body , brain .
Constant neck/head pressure 24/7 .

I really am messed up but what i cant understand is that they have left me capable of thinking , talking but not really quite centered and connected.

I have tripped again since that and didnt even feel the effects on 2.5g .

I am isolated , cant really go outside because i shame on me and people also see it that something isnt correct. My eyes are watery , i have tunnel vision and i cant really use my brain to modify reality .


What would you do in such a position ?

I have been to a ward .... , to psychiatrists .... all havnt helped.
I am now looking into shamanic healing , homeopathic ways .

I have also thought about going big on 5g but i wouldnt know if it would reset me or fuck it up more wich is rare to me .


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Is not HPPD.

Do not abuse psychedelics, it will make it worse.  I've often met schizophrenics who believed they could 'reverse' their condition by using more psychedelics, and that may be the case in a certain set and setting, but they ultimately just fuck themselves up worse with improper usage.

It sounds like you have underlying psychiatric conditions.  I wouldn't be surprised if other drugs (pharms. & recreational) are involved.

Also, the specific nature of "where the trip went bad" could likely be the key to finding a way to psychologically rebound from the situation.

For future reference:

This guide was originally written by Timothy Leary for use with LSD, but I've found it is just as vital with psychedelic mushrooms.

Using LSD to Imprint the Tibetan-Buddhist Experience A Guide to Successful Psychedelic Experience

I find this song to be very good for shroom comedowns and general anxiety related to tripping: Lotus - Colorado

Even the FDA rated psilocin as less toxic than aspirin.  That being said, it's still totally possible a small percentile of people are for some reason, allergic to the substance.  Some people are allergic to cannabis pollen, for example.

Drink a lot of water.  Continue to see healthcare providers.  Keep a positive frame of mind.

Most of all, remember - This too, Shall pass.

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