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SleepyE
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Re: No meaning to life [Re: numnum59]
#23834566 - 11/15/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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i think the occurrence of statistically impossible synchronicities is a good clue that there might be something meaningful going on. Of course this is brushed off as us just being more aware of patterns which occur in our lives (delusions of reference) But to generalize and say that all synchronicities are flukes is incredibly foolish based on truly impossible things i have witnessed.
nihilism is an unfortunately side-effect from believing there is no meaning to life.
many who promote those ideas claim it shouldn't effect our motivation to want to do meaningful things in life but to be honest i kind of think those negative points of view are hard to overcome with a nihilism philosophy.
the majority of my peers/society seems to be nihilist as far as i can tell. Seems to turn things into a free for all/every man for himself..
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numnum59
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Bill_Oreilly said: God is a hovering object in space that is made of everything. Its a hologram we are not aware of at the moment.
Weve had 5 mass extinctions to date. One day a species will be talking about 6 mass extinctions, the sixth being a manmade, nuclear extinction.
Whats your point? you could make the argument that life creates life in order to make it extinct. so what?
nobody has to believe me but im here to tell you...God is a hologramatic disc that can penetrate dimensions on command . It is made of gold and made of everything and everyone. Without it, nothing exists.
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Re: No meaning to life [Re: Ezuma]
#23834615 - 11/15/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: really it's quite nice in my view, to know there's no meaning. I mean really, how could there be meaning? Meaning is contextual, we make it ourselves and apply it to the world. It exists, for us, for a time, but on a universal scale, of course life has no meaning, it's just preposterous really, at a certain point it just is because it is and leave it at that
I dont think its out of the question to say that as a collective we are subconsciously working towards a specific goal or result in our evolution. I think that could be seen as a meaning or purpose. Meaning doesnt always need to be a conscious decision, i can often sneak up on us without us even knowing it.
i didn't find meaning in my life. I was just doing random seemingly unconnected things and realized it was all tied to a specific purpose that was connected (synchronicity) and my meaning evolved from that.
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A.RichardTrickle
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Re: No meaning to life [Re: SleepyE]
#23834646 - 11/15/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am not saying you are lazy at all, I do not know you so I could not judge your motivation by one post, just my son recently came to this conclusion. He is a lazy bastyrd.
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Re: No meaning to life [Re: numnum59]
#23834662 - 11/15/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dildo Schwaggins said: Why does it bother people so much when i mention i think there is no meaning to life, other than just living. I mean im not unhappy or suicidal by any means but i feel our species just evolved enough to become self aware and when we die, we just allow other species to use our collected energy.
There is no heaven and hell, no superior species. Just life of a bunch of self aware selfish humans.
You sound like my very lazy son. The kid has to be reminded to do laundry. I'm not sure, but I'd guess you are 18-27 years of age, give or take. Why even post that nothing matters if it does not matter? What if "heaven" or "hell" are just a state of being? Do you know these places do not exist as a fact or is it speculation?
"Why should I put dishes away, we will just use them again." Dick Jr.
You will get over it. Dick
Im not saying any of this from a lazy point of view. Im just stating the fact that im happy to just be alive, i dont need a god or anything else to give my life meaning
That's called existentialism, not meaninglessness.
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Re: No meaning to life [Re: numnum59]
#23834751 - 11/15/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: God is a hovering object in space that is made of everything. Its a hologram we are not aware of at the moment.
Weve had 5 mass extinctions to date. One day a species will be talking about 6 mass extinctions, the sixth being a manmade, nuclear extinction.
Whats your point? you could make the argument that life creates life in order to make it extinct. so what?
nobody has to believe me but im here to tell you...God is a hologramatic disc that can penetrate dimensions on command . It is made of gold and made of everything and everyone. Without it, nothing exists.
Explain
Explain what?
I always tried getting high as possible..well one night i outdid myself. I took 3-4 strong hits of DMT while on mushrooms and as i blew out the last hit, it started raining out of nowhere. Like a torrential downpour. Everything kept building and building in pressure over the next 30 seconds. Then as im looking forward as the rain is beating at my window..there started a cosmic plasma-type stuff forming on my wall. It collected itself and "poof" out popped a golden hologramatic disc. It slowly and methodically hovered up to my left eye and stopped on a dime. So did the rain. So now its me looking at this object in total amazement. I couldnt look at the thing "in its eye" for some reason despite staring straight at it. So about 1 minute after staring at this object/disc/hologram i slowly reach my arm out to touch it, and right as im about to make contact, it starts hovering away slowly. I go "nooooo" in my head as it slipped from my grasp. It hovered into the wall, and i came down from the DMT and i never saw it again.
If that isnt God/meaning of life...im not sure what is
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SleepyE
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personally i find people who have smoked DMT but still claim there is no design, meaning or purpose in life rather silly.
The whole reason im an artist is because the DMT visions clearly have objective "Design" and "Meaning". It is CLEARLY not random noise. Its information/language.
Ezuma even you have confirmed this for me so i dont have to compile the countless of comments people to me made saying im drawing the exact same realm they have been too.

but heres a video a youtuber made about it for good measure :P
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Edited by SleepyE (11/15/16 09:28 AM)
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: No meaning to life [Re: SleepyE] 1
#23834791 - 11/15/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: personally i find people who have smoked DMT but still claim there is no design, meaning or purpose in life rather silly.
The whole reason im an artist is because the DMT visions clearly have objective "Design" and "Meaning". It is CLEARLY not random noise. Its information/language.
Im listening to your youtube video of your pharma experiences as we speak
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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SleepyE
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lol
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Re: No meaning to life [Re: SleepyE]
#23834801 - 11/15/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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its good stuff man...i randomly started thinking about having my first pharma trip so i typed in "pharmahuasca" on youtube and your video was the first to come up
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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SleepyE
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Re: No meaning to life [Re: SleepyE]
#23834847 - 11/15/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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sweet, yeah i think im starting to dominate the youtube search engine for dmt related stuff.
pretty sure if you type DMT in the search one of my jester archetype videos might be on the first page.
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Re: No meaning to life [Re: SleepyE]
#23834873 - 11/15/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Life is without a deep meaning or purpose. The universe exists without any kind of purpose.
Doesn't make valueless though. Life's value comes from our ability to experience the consciousness of our environment with which we reside. Pre-birth and death was and will be the termination of this experience.
I think that's as deep as it goes.
DMT was profound in teaching me this as my consciousness vanished from my body for some time and shrooms taught me this in a very gentle way.
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Re: No meaning to life [Re: YeOlde]
#23834900 - 11/15/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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YeOlde said: Pre-birth and death was and will be the termination of this experience.
It might be a termination of THIS experience but i seriously doubt it is a termination of ALL experience.
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Lucis
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My recent problem is that everything feels fake, this whole world feel fake, I feel like the only meaning of this life is to breed and be put into slavery in a false reality. This world really feels like the matrix, where ignorance of reality is bliss, and once you figure out that this is all a sham, it takes the luster of life's pleasures away.
I often view the majority of humans as a disease, this is making me seriously think about getting a vasectomy, I don't want to contribute my seed to further the ranks of this motley crew of self serving "higher thinking" apes. I am sure that sounds horrible, but it's how I feel currently.
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Re: No meaning to life [Re: Lucis]
#23835041 - 11/15/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fennario said: My recent problem is that everything feels fake, this whole world feel fake, I feel like the only meaning of this life is to breed and be put into slavery in a false reality. This world really feels like the matrix, where ignorance of reality is bliss, and once you figure out that this is all a sham, it takes the luster of life's pleasures away.
I often view the majority of humans as a disease, this is making me seriously think about getting a vasectomy, I don't want to contribute my seed to further the ranks of this motley crew of self serving "higher thinking" apes. I am sure that sounds horrible, but it's how I feel currently.
If you did procreate, maybe you could be the father of someone great who changed the world in an unimaginable way.
Think about if all countries/ people in the world were without greed and worked for the betterment of human civilization as a whole. Imagine how mucb we could accomplish.
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Re: No meaning to life [Re: numnum59] 1
#23835283 - 11/15/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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numnum59 said: Think about if all countries/ people in the world were without greed and worked for the betterment of human civilization as a whole. Imagine how mucb we could accomplish.
That's a nice thought and all, and I appreciate you trying to shine a little bit of light on an often dismal subject for myself, but the majority of humans are always going to be self serving pieces of trash. I hate to sound so pessimistic, but I just don't see myself breeding the next messiah, or humans pulling their heads out of their assholes anytime soon.
I always treat people with respect though, I don't want to come off as being rude to life, but it's just so pointless to invest energy into anything which doesn't really matter. Nature is brutal, not just humans, but nature itself is a cut throat bitch of a demon dog, this is one truth I see as self evident, we all can observe lions consuming a wildebeest calf recently born with no remorse, wolves hunting down the young, weak, old of a herd of buffalo with no remorse for their actions, so humans are no different, and with social media, we're only become more vile because we can hide behind out little screens and feel powerful because we can say what we want in almost total anonymity.
We put on masks to say we care about certain things, but I bet the majority of people really don't care, they only act like they do so that others can pat them on the back, seems like the majority of people only do good for recognition, fuck that, fuck those people, self serving assholes they are.
One of the things which I think might be a part of the age old questions about the meaning of life, is to figure out how to be, just to be. I don't want the labels, the religions, any of that, it feels like those things start to corrupt you if you allow them to. Even if you don't act like an asshole about achieving something in a spiritual way, your ego will constantly be trying to trick you into thinking you're better than someone, ego traps are death, but they are so prevalent it's amazing to me, why can't I get any peace and just turn that part of my being off, WHY!
Fuck being in the know, fuck it all man it's all worthless if we allow it to corrupt us, so even within the light side of life, there is much darkness. Why is it so hard just to be, just be light, and love, to overcome the ego, I don't feel at home in this human suit made of flesh and blood and secular desires and wants, fuck it.
I am sure I have said somethings in this post I don't mean, but I go through periods of nihilism I guess you could say, and am in one of those periods of my life now. What usually puts me in such a state, is seeing two family members of mine struggle with things, I only want to see everyone I know realize their worth, their value, but I don't know how to go about bringing this out of people because I am socially inept, even with my loved ones. Why is it so hard to for others to realize their worth without attaching to social status, or material things.
If god is real, then he/she's a huge fucking asshole. I get angry and shake my fist at some imaginary sky god, I want to topple the temples, and rebuild a new one, do it right this time, but the world isn't ready for that, so I will focus toppling the temple of ignorance within my being, and building something new there first, so that I might be an example to follow.
Why did I live through a decade of heroin addiction and so any people I knew died, so many good people that had better schooling, promising lives, wonderful attitudes, fuck this shit is twisted.
So I struggle with seeing the purpose in life, other than life is just a mistake, this whole thing is a mistake.
Sorry to sound so negative, but it's how I feel now, I am generally a fairly optimistic person who tries to see the good in each person, and not see them for their faults, but I am currently thinking an asteroid to the planet would probably be a good thing.
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Dildo Schwaggins said: Why does it bother people so much when i mention i think there is no meaning to life, other than just living. I mean im not unhappy or suicidal by any means but i feel our species just evolved enough to become self aware and when we die, we just allow other species to use our collected energy.
There is no heaven and hell, no superior species. Just life of a bunch of self aware selfish humans.
Lot of people don't want to know that, IME. 
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Re: No meaning to life [Re: PrimalSoup] 1
#23835581 - 11/15/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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On one level life having no essential meaning is true. But its from that which all our freedom comes from, we make our own meaning like in a dream.
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If life has no meaning it's your fault.
Life is different each day for me, vibrant, interesting. I don't see people around me struggling with the question of meaning so why are you? Plenty of meaning in life . . .
Listen to and talk to the people that say life is amazing, because it is. You just have to see things their way.
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Dildo Schwaggins said: Why does it bother people so much when i mention i think there is no meaning to life, other than just living. I mean im not unhappy or suicidal by any means but i feel our species just evolved enough to become self aware and when we die, we just allow other species to use our collected energy.
There is no heaven and hell, no superior species. Just life of a bunch of self aware selfish humans.
Meanings in life do exist but they are subjective and individually made from a persons values and sense or morality.
Objectively there are no meanings but there is a purpose to life and it is that of DNA transcription.
And yes I find it humbling to know my body will become fertiliser and be recycled into nature when I die.
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