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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: qman]
#23842152 - 11/17/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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But has it failed, or is it gaining steam? 
Hence my OP.
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: qman] 3
#23842418 - 11/17/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Promoting peaceful gatherings and civil disobedience?!
I shudder at the future if this is allowed to continue.
But should monetary compensation be used as an incentive for those protests? It seems to destroy the credibility and integrity of the movement.
Why not?
The free market suddenly is unethical?
The day someone has to hire political activists to participate in their movement is the day the movement has failed. If you can't understand that reality, you're in denial.
So every political movement ever to exist has failed, by that metric.
You realize both major parties are corporations, right? The Kochs funded the tea party. The NRA funds pro 2nd marches. Etc etc etc.
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23842466 - 11/17/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Promoting peaceful gatherings and civil disobedience?!
I shudder at the future if this is allowed to continue.
But should monetary compensation be used as an incentive for those protests? It seems to destroy the credibility and integrity of the movement.
Why not?
The free market suddenly is unethical?
The day someone has to hire political activists to participate in their movement is the day the movement has failed. If you can't understand that reality, you're in denial.
So every political movement ever to exist has failed, by that metric.
You realize both major parties are corporations, right? The Kochs funded the tea party. The NRA funds pro 2nd marches. Etc etc etc.
And who do you think funds the democrats?
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23842516 - 11/17/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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The Ecstatic said: Promoting peaceful gatherings and civil disobedience?!
I shudder at the future if this is allowed to continue.
But should monetary compensation be used as an incentive for those protests? It seems to destroy the credibility and integrity of the movement.
Why not?
The free market suddenly is unethical?
The day someone has to hire political activists to participate in their movement is the day the movement has failed. If you can't understand that reality, you're in denial.
So every political movement ever to exist has failed, by that metric.
You realize both major parties are corporations, right? The Kochs funded the tea party. The NRA funds pro 2nd marches. Etc etc etc.
Yes, but you can't fund real passionate activists, it doesn't work that way.
Bernie and Trump supporters were truly willing to go the extra mile to make their goal happen, money can't accomplish that mission.
Even the retards in BLM's are passionate about their movement, they're misguided but committed.
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: qman]
#23842806 - 11/17/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: Even the retards in BLM's are passionate about their movement, they're misguided but committed.
So black lives don't matter?
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qman said: Even the retards in BLM's are passionate about their movement, they're misguided but committed.
So black lives don't matter?
The movement started based on misinformation and a false premise.
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: qman] 1
#23842954 - 11/17/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That black lives matter? 
I must have missed a thread on this.
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I must have missed a thread on this.
That Michael Brown was killed by a cop for no reason other than him being a black man.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: That black lives matter? 
I must have missed a thread on this.
Playing dumb? That's so not like you
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The Ecstatic said: You realize both major parties are corporations, right? The Kochs funded the tea party. The NRA funds pro 2nd marches. Etc etc etc.
And who do you think funds the democrats?
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He did say "both major parties" I'd say pretty much the same people that are funding the GOP, plus maybe labor. What about you?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Even the retards in BLM's are passionate about their movement, they're misguided but committed.
So black lives don't matter?
Falcon, you can't assume intended that, thats being tricky. But I would also be curious how qman would direct the BLM movement differently?
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: qman]
#23843320 - 11/17/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: The movement started based on misinformation and a false premise.
That black lives matter? 
I must have missed a thread on this.
That Michael Brown was killed by a cop for no reason other than him being a black man.
Actually, the BLM movement started after the Trayvon Martin shooting, but gained steam after Michael Brown and other unarmed black men were shot.
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: Crumist] 1
#23843383 - 11/17/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: You realize both major parties are corporations, right? The Kochs funded the tea party. The NRA funds pro 2nd marches. Etc etc etc.
And who do you think funds the democrats?
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He did say "both major parties" I'd say pretty much the same people that are funding the GOP, plus maybe labor. What about you?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Even the retards in BLM's are passionate about their movement, they're misguided but committed.
So black lives don't matter?
Falcon, you can't assume intended that, thats being tricky. But I would also be curious how qman would direct the BLM movement differently?

If an organization has issue with specific cases of police abuse of power, they need to make sure it actually took place and not prejudge before the facts come out (like Zimmerman and Brown).
The organization should also not make it about race, it only lowers the credibility of the movement. All sorts of demographics are affected by police abuse, there no point in suggesting otherwise.
The organization should also avoid creating a false narrative, unjustifiable killings of civilians is a very rare event, it's not a epidemic.
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: qman] 3
#23845024 - 11/18/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thats your opinion. When white people endure centuries of oppression, you can be sure to start your awareness movement on those guidelines.
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: The Ecstatic] 4
#23845033 - 11/18/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its easy for a suburban white American male to say "dont make it about race" when race has never been an obstruction for you or any one of your peers.
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#23845101 - 11/18/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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What would you tell black people who disagree with that statement? Plenty of black people have made great lives for themselves despite all the "oppression."
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23845167 - 11/18/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Thats your opinion. When white people endure centuries of oppression, you can be sure to start your awareness movement on those guidelines.
"Thats your opinion"
No, the statistics clearly back up what I'm stating, BLM created a false narrative and unjustifiable police killing are NOT an epidemic.
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23845185 - 11/18/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Its easy for a suburban white American male to say "dont make it about race" when race has never been an obstruction for you or any one of your peers.
All demographics are affected by police abuse, suggesting that only black lives matter is offensive and clearly ineffective in trying to address the underlying issue.
Should we also say males lives matter? Because they are massively disproportional victims of police abuse relative to females, what about younger lives matter?
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#23845196 - 11/18/16 12:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Have you noticed that intelligent black people are way less likely to support BLM than dumb black people are? I sure have.
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: Eminence]
#23845222 - 11/18/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Have you noticed that intelligent black people are way less likely to support BLM than dumb black people are? I sure have.
Absolutely, have you noticed that intelligent white people are less likely to support BLM than dumb white people?
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Re: Reality or Conspiracy Theory??? [Re: qman]
#23845299 - 11/18/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yup. Thankfully most people seem to realize how bullshit it really is.
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