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Sad123
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First trip: I couldn't feel myself breathe.
#23833271 - 11/14/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Last month I tripped on shrooms for the very first time. I have had experience with psychedelics before hand. However, I didn't know much about shrooms. All I know is that my friends all recommended that I would do them on a day that I didn't have much going on. It was a really nice fall Saturday in Michigan and I didn't have any school, work, or parties to go to. My best friend had gotten them for me. I didn't do any research. I had no Idea if the amount she was giving me was a lot or too little. I just ate them and hoped for the best. She had gotten me 4 grams. I was for sure nothing crazy would happen since I was so use to tripping on acid. I had gotten my tolerance up to 4 tabs which isn't the most, but I still thought I would be fine. I smoke weed in general for my anxiety, so I had already been smoking all day. I could feel my trip start to begin with an intense euphoria. I went outside by myself to smoke a cig thinking that visual effects would start to hit me soon like how it was for acid. Instead of visual effects, I had noticed that I had lost the feeling of breathing. I imagine I was breathing really hard and fast at that point. Ultimatly, I had an irrational fear that since I couldn't not feel myself breathe, I would soon suffocate and die if I didn't regulate my breathing in someway. My trip already started out on a bad note because breathing is very important to me. For most people, breathing is involuntary. For years I thought myself that when all else fails, I always had deep breathing and meditation. Now that my number one coping skill was gone and I could feel a bad anxioty coming on, I had to think fast of what other things I could do to cope. I turned to my other senses for help since my sense of touch and feel was either super delayed or non-existent. I thought that instead of feeling myself breathe, I could listen to myself breathe. I took a deep breath and listened for my deep exhale. I did not get the results that I had hoped for. Instead of hearing myself exhale, I heard my exhale about 3 to 5 seconds after I had consciously exhaled. I tried to keep calm. I spoke to myself, "everything is going to be okay". It wasn't. I couldn't hear what I had said untill I had closed my mouth after I was done speaking it out loud. I had realized that all my sences were distorted and that I needed someone. I went inside to my two friends to seek help. Unfortuantly they did more harm than anything because they were already tripping too. I didn't think to get a trip sitter because I had already tripped on acid so much I thought I was going to be fine. All of my senses were delayed. I couldn't hear what my friends were saying untill 3 to 5 seconds after they said it. I heard non stop ringing. I couldn't feel myself breathe. My skin felt like it was so heavy that it was falling off of me. My one friend was tripping but not as hard as I was. She sat down next to me and told me that I didn't have to breath that hard. I ended up breaking down. "Am I even breathing? Am I melting? Am I gonna die". These were my legitimate concerns and both of my drugged up friend proceeded to laugh at me. I calmed myself down. I repeated over and over again inside my head. "Its just the drug. Its just the drug." visual effects started kicking in. I noticed that the tv was slowly sliding down the wall. The room got 5 time bigger and I started noticing crazy amounts of detail in the wall paintings, tables, and other decor. I settled down a bit when my friend told me that shrooms are different from acid. I really have to submit myself, let the drug take me where its going. On acid I feel like I have so much control, shrooms feels like I was being taken hostage in my own body. It almost seems as if the drug was attacking me in everyway possible. Once I figured a way to cope with one peoblem, it would throw another obstacle at me. I proceeded to hallucinate so heavily that I couldnt take it. I kept my eyes shut for the whole trip. Popping them open once in a while only to see thinks like my friends face being completely filled with eyeballs, or my other friend having 8 arms. I started enjoying my trip more when the hallucinations were not so heavy after about 3 hours maybe. 3 days in bad shrooms trip time. Unfortuantly, I also had many suicidal thought through out the trip. I can go on and on about the things I seen and the realizations I made. But my main point is that I have read through a lot of other trips and I can't find any experiences that also included not feeling breathing. It also didn't come back untill I woke up after my crash. Does anyone have any thoughts about it? I consider my shrooms trip one of the hardest things I've ever put myself through. If I were to trip again, do you think that my first experience would give me another bad trip? I would love anyone's insites or personal experiences they would like share. Was 4 grams too much for the first time?
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Re: First trip: I couldn't feel myself breathe. [Re: Sad123]
#23837672 - 11/16/16 04:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sad123 said: Last month I tripped on shrooms for the very first time. I have had experience with psychedelics before hand. However, I didn't know much about shrooms. All I know is that my friends all recommended that I would do them on a day that I didn't have much going on.
It was a really nice fall Saturday in Michigan and I didn't have any school, work, or parties to go to. My best friend had gotten them for me. I didn't do any research. I had no Idea if the amount she was giving me was a lot or too little. I just ate them and hoped for the best. She had gotten me 4 grams. I was for sure nothing crazy would happen since I was so use to tripping on acid. I had gotten my tolerance up to 4 tabs which isn't the most, but I still thought I would be fine. I smoke weed in general for my anxiety, so I had already been smoking all day.
I could feel my trip start to begin with an intense euphoria. I went outside by myself to smoke a cig thinking that visual effects would start to hit me soon like how it was for acid. Instead of visual effects, I had noticed that I had lost the feeling of breathing. I imagine I was breathing really hard and fast at that point. Ultimatly, I had an irrational fear that since I couldn't not feel myself breathe, I would soon suffocate and die if I didn't regulate my breathing in someway.
My trip already started out on a bad note because breathing is very important to me. For most people, breathing is involuntary. For years I thought myself that when all else fails, I always had deep breathing and meditation. Now that my number one coping skill was gone and I could feel a bad anxioty coming on, I had to think fast of what other things I could do to cope. I turned to my other senses for help since my sense of touch and feel was either super delayed or non-existent. I thought that instead of feeling myself breathe, I could listen to myself breathe. I took a deep breath and listened for my deep exhale. I did not get the results that I had hoped for. Instead of hearing myself exhale, I heard my exhale about 3 to 5 seconds after I had consciously exhaled. I tried to keep calm. I spoke to myself, "everything is going to be okay". It wasn't.
I couldn't hear what I had said untill I had closed my mouth after I was done speaking it out loud. I had realized that all my sences were distorted and that I needed someone. I went inside to my two friends to seek help. Unfortuantly they did more harm than anything because they were already tripping too. I didn't think to get a trip sitter because I had already tripped on acid so much I thought I was going to be fine.
All of my senses were delayed. I couldn't hear what my friends were saying untill 3 to 5 seconds after they said it. I heard non stop ringing. I couldn't feel myself breathe. My skin felt like it was so heavy that it was falling off of me. My one friend was tripping but not as hard as I was. She sat down next to me and told me that I didn't have to breath that hard. I ended up breaking down. "Am I even breathing? Am I melting? Am I gonna die".
These were my legitimate concerns and both of my drugged up friend proceeded to laugh at me. I calmed myself down. I repeated over and over again inside my head. "Its just the drug. Its just the drug." visual effects started kicking in. I noticed that the tv was slowly sliding down the wall. The room got 5 time bigger and I started noticing crazy amounts of detail in the wall paintings, tables, and other decor. I settled down a bit when my friend told me that shrooms are different from acid. I really have to submit myself, let the drug take me where its going.
On acid I feel like I have so much control, shrooms feels like I was being taken hostage in my own body. It almost seems as if the drug was attacking me in everyway possible. Once I figured a way to cope with one peoblem, it would throw another obstacle at me. I proceeded to hallucinate so heavily that I couldnt take it. I kept my eyes shut for the whole trip. Popping them open once in a while only to see thinks like my friends face being completely filled with eyeballs, or my other friend having 8 arms. I started enjoying my trip more when the hallucinations were not so heavy after about 3 hours maybe. 3 days in bad shrooms trip time. Unfortuantly, I also had many suicidal thought through out the trip. I can go on and on about the things I seen and the realizations I made. But my main point is that I have read through a lot of other trips and I can't find any experiences that also included not feeling breathing. It also didn't come back untill I woke up after my crash.
Does anyone have any thoughts about it? I consider my shrooms trip one of the hardest things I've ever put myself through. If I were to trip again, do you think that my first experience would give me another bad trip? I would love anyone's insites or personal experiences they would like share. Was 4 grams too much for the first time?
Edited with some spaces for those eyes.
Set and setting. Mushrooms are not very social. You've got to really be on top of your shit to be able to handle yourself around others on a hearty dose of psilocybin.
Try again, but with a sober, experienced sitter. Or fly solo if you're like, you sound like you're pretty adept at figuring it out.
As far as the breathing goes, your body won't stop, don't worry about it. If you loose focus on your breath, let your focus go and just be. Don't focus on anything, no thought, no form, no thing. You'll eventually wake up and realize you're still alive.
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Re: First trip: I couldn't feel myself breathe. [Re: HamHead]
#23847344 - 11/19/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks a lot for the edit, HamHead. Much easier to read.
OP, I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I think thoroughly researching any drug is always the best option, and you clearly gambled (and lost) by leaping into the experience without having the right knowledge.
In my personal opinion, there are several factors to your bad trip, including the lack of research being along with your set and setting and your lack of trip sitter -- but I think the main factor was that you simply took way too much. Shrooms can be dysphoric in general (imho), and I personally think it's a sensible idea to start relatively smallish and then sequentially work your way up.
I can totally understand what you mean about losing sensation of your breath. The mushroom body high sort of makes you lose touch with your body. In my experience, my body feels very light, almost like a wisp of smoke, or as if it wasn't there, and at higher doses I cease to even feel like I have a body, and I'm simply a disembodied consciousness. I now know to expect this, and actually really enjoy it, but if it took you by surprise I can totally see how scary it could be.
Ultimately, I think it would be a shame if you were to let this one experience deter you from mushrooms forever. I don't think your bad trip should necessarily give you another bad trip, although obviously if you were extremely nervous and obsessing about possibly reliving your first trip, you'd have a pretty shitty set and setting. I recommend restarting with small, gentle experiences. Gradually build up a friendship with mushrooms, and learn what to expect in terms of body highs and whatnot. With any luck, you'll be able to see some of the fun and beauty that mushrooms have to offer.
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