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Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. 4
#23833138 - 11/14/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I paid parts of my university tuition by playing Poker at the casino. I quit for a stupid job and never went back...
It has changed as of 3 days ago. I put aside 1500$ of expendable money for the time it will need me to get back in the game. I will be spending a maximum of 3 hours at the casino 5 to 6 days a week. I expect to bleed cash for the next week or so and slowly start turning in some profit after that.
The reason behind this is: fuck the real world. I'm not walking the traditional path of jobs and promotions and shit anymore. Not for me. Never was. Hopefully one day I could go pro. Who knows? Lots of people make it big by doing what they want instead of what they have to. Why not me?
The biggest challenge in this is already conquered. Getting my mother on board... She's now my "manager". She gets a daily progress update. I get peace of mind.
Of course I'm still gonna do some shifts until I can see whether or not this will be a profitable endeavor... I'm not completely stupid, just mostly.
So yeah.
Follow your dreams. Never quit. Never two without three. All all of these bullshit sayings.
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#23833159 - 11/14/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do it up. I've been selling my body for the same reasons.
I'll fuck for a buck, ya know?
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal] 2
#23833163 - 11/14/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: I paid parts of my university tuition by playing Poker at the casino. I quit for a stupid job and never went back...
It has changed as of 3 days ago. I put aside 1500$ of expendable money for the time it will need me to get back in the game. I will be spending a maximum of 3 hours at the casino 5 to 6 days a week. I expect to bleed cash for the next week or so and slowly start turning in some profit after that.
The reason behind this is: fuck the real world. I'm not walking the traditional path of jobs and promotions and shit anymore. Not for me. Never was. Hopefully one day I could go pro. Who knows? Lots of people make it big by doing what they want instead of what they have to. Why not me?
The biggest challenge in this is already conquered. Getting my mother on board... She's now my "manager". She gets a daily progress update. I get peace of mind.
Of course I'm still gonna do some shifts until I can see whether or not this will be a profitable endeavor... I'm not completely stupid, just mostly.
So yeah.
Follow your dreams. Never quit. Never two without three. All all of these bullshit sayings.
I'll tell you what my daddy told me:
Son, Poker's a tough way to earn an easy living.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: shadyy] 1
#23833169 - 11/14/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do something strange for a little piece of change.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: shadyy]
#23833184 - 11/14/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hope u win big cuz ur super nice patlal :]
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#23833195 - 11/14/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Always bet that the next card will be the right card and eventually you'll win big.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23833217 - 11/14/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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my advice is to set a profit limit rather than a time limit. It can be whatever you want relative to your bankroll. The key here is overcoming the temptation to stay and play if you strike early and pummel a table right after you sit down. lets say you sit down at a 4-8 table and you're up $250 after the first 3 hands you play. why stick around for another 2 or 3 hours giving some of it back to the drop and the dealer?
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 2
#23833305 - 11/14/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That big dip from 2012 to 2014 was largely where I played poker all waking hours of the day that I wasn't doing necessary things. I still worked, but I did profit off poker when I was at my prime playing skills. I only played online for the most part, live games were few and far between. Only tournaments really for live stuff. Online I'd get down on FL Holdem, No Limit tournaments and sit n' gos, and double ups (double ups are incredibly boring, but profitable if you're patient).
I'd recommend playing online first to get your head around the game if you're serious about this. I don't know what your skill level is necessarily, but I'm willing to bet it's not several thousands of hours range. People who play online see thousands and thousands more hands than people who play in a live setting do, and get a better internal sense of what correct play really is. You develop a way of reading people from specific tells that translate into real life as well, and become less reliant on reading a persons face and opt instead to read a persons strategy and behavior. Many people you come across playing at casinos will also be people who've been playing for years online and in person, and they can wipe you clean in time if you're not careful.
Poker has a way of giving people false assurances that they are playing correctly that only long term experience can fix. You can have some good wins. You can go days on the up. And false hope will be your downfall. You seem to be the kind of person who has the patience to profit, but you must understand that profitable poker is not necessarily a fun endeavor. It's a painstaking grind to play at your optimum level, and not playing at that level makes for disastrous mistakes. I prefer working myself.
Play in online tournaments called free rolls. They will have thousands of players going against each other to win a paltry $5. If you can't win one of those, you'll have a difficult time winning a real tournament with real money on the table - consistently that is. If you can build your bankroll from free money, you have what it takes to be a full time poker player. If you can take $5 in free tournament tickets and turn it into $9000 in a couple weeks, you're playing correctly. Until then, and I mean this genuinely, don't quit your day job.
Playing poker and gambling games in general can have a long term impact on your reasoning. It can have a long term impact on your impulsive behavior threshold as well, as you are constantly exposing yourself to bursts of dopamine and false rewards. Every pot you win is a false reward, it feels good. As a long term player, you will go through thousands and thousands of winning pots. After a year or so of me playing poker, I lost my sense of value in dollars. I could look at $9000 sitting in my bankroll and not blink an eye. I could lose that much in a and feel nothing. No remorse. Dollars were points, they had no monetary value. This was necessary not to play scared and to make wise decisions regarding huge pots, but it's not good for the soul to lose all sense of value in something like that.
I had frequent dreams about poker too.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: PatrickKn] 1
#23833308 - 11/14/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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But if you decide to go into it and need any advice, I know quite a bit. Poker isn't a perfect science, that's why it's still played for money unlike chess. In a heads up game, a complete noob can beat a poker pro 43% of the time, or so it's said. That 7% adds up to a monstrous tax after a while and your losses grow exponentially. But winning 40% of the time can give you a false sense of hope too. It's something that players have to watch.
I'd record everything. Watch my play when I wasn't playing. Sometimes I'd have dual monitors running 20 games at a time. Mistakes are made, but patience is key.
Edited by PatrickKn (11/14/16 06:57 PM)
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: PatrickKn]
#23833376 - 11/14/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Try online. You can grind out profit from the comfort of your toilet. Plenty of little niche setups and fish that can be exploited.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: pineninja]
#23833459 - 11/14/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can hardly trust the card dealers at a real casino... It wouldn't be easy to put trust into gambling on an online computer dependent game of digital poker. that's a suckers game.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: PartoftheSource]
#23833466 - 11/14/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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PokerStars is legit. They make money out of amount of bets not who wins it would be foolish and risky for them to try and rig it.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23833570 - 11/14/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Keep a job,,, play poker, in the long run whichever you are making more at, follow it.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: RobZombie68]
#23833607 - 11/14/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a job but went on an extended break a couple of years ago. If your adept at counting and following structured play then like me you can grind out a profit like I did. It was fun at the start but quickly became boring and much like a job that I have actively avoided ie staring at a screen all day. Also I can make more back at my regular profession. Its nice to know I have a fallback that I can eek out a bit of cash on though.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#23833646 - 11/14/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I hope u win big cuz ur super nice patlal :]
Ur bluffing
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: koods]
#23833654 - 11/14/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stick to tournaments. The play is much cleaner. Unless you're the richest guy at the table, it's too easy to get overpowered by a drunk guy with a big stack.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: koods] 2
#23833676 - 11/14/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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True, but over time the right play works in your favor. Whales take out the hasty players, piss off a few good players, and eventually donk out. I prefered to buy into GTD tourneys online in the early hours of the morning. Could usually get good placements. Highest tournament win was over $6000, but I loved playing higher stakes Fixed Limit and could arguably make more doing that.
My most successful runs were grinding Double Up sit n'gos though. Such a boring game, lots of people just put bots at play on those tables though, and the bots are far from perfect. I had it so my computer would alert me if I had a pocket worth playing, and would auto-fold otherwise for the first several rounds, and then I'd start to focus on the game around 30-40 minutes in. Could mash through a dozen games at a time doing this, and only needed to be in the money 55% of the time to be profitable over the long run.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: koods]
#23833683 - 11/14/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: Stick to tournaments. The play is much cleaner. Unless you're the richest guy at the table, it's too easy to get overpowered by a drunk guy with a big stack.
The cash tables are rigged. All it takes is a few mates and a hidden chat window(trust me).
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: pineninja]
#23834093 - 11/14/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would def. log as many online hours as possible on stars..
You don't live in the US so take advantage.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ImmortalZodd]
#23834095 - 11/14/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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As an aspiring pro MTG player, I support the fuck out of this. May the odds ever be in your favor!
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: koods]
#23834231 - 11/14/16 11:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: Stick to tournaments. The play is much cleaner. Unless you're the richest guy at the table, it's too easy to get overpowered by a drunk guy with a big stack.
tournament play is too haphazard. The increasing blinds force you to make plays that you wouldn't necessarily make in a cash game. Like patrick said, a good player will grind the money out of the drunk guys with the big stacks over the long haul by making the correct plays (this is especially true in a Limit game). Sure, he may draw his 1 outer on the river tonight, but day in and day out, the safe play makes money, and the luck play is a loser. The guy to really watch out for is the quiet guy who folds most of the time and is reading a book. He's a professional, and if he's in the hand, you should respect his bets or be prepared to pay the price.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
#23834346 - 11/15/16 01:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The odds stay the same if you adjust your play/risk management accordingly. There will always be more stupid money at a tourney table than cash.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: pineninja]
#23834362 - 11/15/16 02:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pineninja said: The odds stay the same if you adjust your play/risk management accordingly. There will always be more stupid money at a tourney table than cash.
maybe so, but you have to run through a lot more stupid money to get paid. You can walk onto a cash game, sting the table before anyone adjusts to your play, and leave. rinse and repeat.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23834380 - 11/15/16 02:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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awesome man, good luck!
U gunna play regular poker or texas hold em?
I played online on a phone app, world poker league or something. It was fun.
Good luck Maverick
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
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pineninja said: The odds stay the same if you adjust your play/risk management accordingly. There will always be more stupid money at a tourney table than cash.
maybe so, but you have to run through a lot more stupid money to get paid. You can walk onto a cash game, sting the table before anyone adjusts to your play, and leave. rinse and repeat.
Wading through stupid money so what your saying is you sit down play super agressive and hope you don't get caught before you cash, very original...good luck with that.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
#23834407 - 11/15/16 03:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pineninja said: The odds stay the same if you adjust your play/risk management accordingly. There will always be more stupid money at a tourney table than cash.
maybe so, but you have to run through a lot more stupid money to get paid. You can walk onto a cash game, sting the table before anyone adjusts to your play, and leave. rinse and repeat.
Stack size is important. What kind of resources do the other players have is important. In a cash game. It's easy to get bullied around if your stack is more important to you than the other guys is to him. Tournament play evens the field.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
#23834658 - 11/15/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: my advice is to set a profit limit rather than a time limit. It can be whatever you want relative to your bankroll. The key here is overcoming the temptation to stay and play if you strike early and pummel a table right after you sit down. lets say you sit down at a 4-8 table and you're up $250 after the first 3 hands you play. why stick around for another 2 or 3 hours giving some of it back to the drop and the dealer?
Trust. I have the most solid discipline in the entire casino. max 300$ profit. Max 3 hours. Max 100$ a day. I leave if I lose on the first hand.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said: I leave if I lose on the first hand.
The other rules are not bad, but this one seems out of touch. Sometimes the odds just aren't in your favor. If you're setting aside $100 to play with for the day, that should be your budget, rather than pulling out directly after your first loss.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: PatrickKn]
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Patlal said: I leave if I lose on the first hand.
The other rules are not bad, but this one seems out of touch. Sometimes the odds just aren't in your favor. If you're setting aside $100 to play with for the day, that should be your budget, rather than pulling out directly after your first loss.
What's what I was about to say, leaving after your first hand is like scooping if you don't get a turn one sol ring.
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always follow your dreams.
unless your dream is to be a professional gambler.
In that case, get a better dream.
I predict If you do this you will screw up your life and regret it.
I watched my father destroy himself and my family through his gambling. I detest gambling and I also know that the odds are hugely against you.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Moonshoe]
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Look into becoming a professional Magic player Patal, It's like grown up poker for an anilitical mind. I'd love to kick your ass at a pro tour some day.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23834683 - 11/15/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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PatKn: I have more than one thousand hours of experience if not 2000. I'm not new to this. I am currently working on my NL ring games. No tournement for now. As opposed to everyone else, I'm too patient and too conservative. I'm a marathon runner, not a sprinter. I've folded pocket kings preflop before and it was the right decision cause I would have been up againt aces.
As of the dopamine rushes. I no longer have them. I got them when I was nervous, but now I'm comfortable. I have built solid mental walls around my poker game because when you're in a casino all the time you see degenerate gamblers losing everything they have and there's is no fucking way I'm jumping on that boat. I saw a guy lose roughly 10000$ a day for 6 months. He sold his apartment buildings, remortgaged his house, cash in his retirement and then one day I never saw him again. All the regulars wondered what had happened to him and I still don't know to this day. So like I said, I am not getting on that boat.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: PatrickKn]
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Patlal said: I leave if I lose on the first hand.
The other rules are not bad, but this one seems out of touch. Sometimes the odds just aren't in your favor. If you're setting aside $100 to play with for the day, that should be your budget, rather than pulling out directly after your first loss.
Nope. I NEVER rebuy. EVER. 100$ a day is the budget and I don't not break the rules. Whether you think it rational or not, it is what it is. Every other player think is stupid too, but I'd rather be stupid than broke.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said: always follow your dreams.
unless your dream is to be a professional gambler.
In that case, get a better dream.
I predict If you do this you will screw up your life and regret it.
I watched my father destroy himself and my family through his gambling. I detest gambling and I also know that the odds are hugely against you.
I am fully aware that I'm playing with fire and I have set up every precaution in the book.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
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just consider developing a more meaningful skill or following a more meaningful profession as a plan B.
Then make it your plan A.
if you decide to pursue this against all advice then I wish you good luck.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23834697 - 11/15/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I thought you meant losing the hand, not losing your entire buy in in the first hand. That's kind of how you worded it. 
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Patlal said: PatKn: I have more than one thousand hours of experience if not 2000. I'm not new to this. I am currently working on my NL ring games. No tournement for now. As opposed to everyone else, I'm too patient and too conservative. I'm a marathon runner, not a sprinter. I've folded pocket kings preflop before and it was the right decision cause I would have been up againt aces.
As of the dopamine rushes. I no longer have them. I got them when I was nervous, but now I'm comfortable. I have built solid mental walls around my poker game because when you're in a casino all the time you see degenerate gamblers losing everything they have and there's is no fucking way I'm jumping on that boat. I saw a guy lose roughly 10000$ a day for 6 months. He sold his apartment buildings, remortgaged his house, cash in his retirement and then one day I never saw him again. All the regulars wondered what had happened to him and I still don't know to this day. So like I said, I am not getting on that boat.
That's good that you have some experience. What years did you play? Pre-2003-4 at all?
I can tell by your demeanor that you're probably a more patient type of player and said as much. That's good, and I can tell you'd be less likely to fall to compulsive behavior. I think long term playing, every day can cause some change in behavior though. Just be conscious of that is all I'm saying, it's worth watching out for.
Too patient and too conservative is perfect before the flop. It's arguably the best tactic for long term stability. Lot's of full time players will tell you to play aggressively after the flop in cash games and regular tourneys though.
You ever get into Fixed Limit?
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Patlal said: I am fully aware that I'm playing with fire and I have set up every precaution in the book.
Nobody says, "I want to grow up to be a degenerate gambler".
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#23834728 - 11/15/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nobody says "I want to be a methhead when they grow up". And then you got this website right here.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23834738 - 11/15/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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but a lot of people say "I am going to use meth but don't worry I'm a very careful person and I have great self control and I will take every precaution so don't worry "
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Moonshoe]
#23834773 - 11/15/16 08:58 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: but a lot of people say "I am going to use meth but don't worry I'm a very careful person and I have great self control and I will take every precaution so don't worry "

I understand your concerns and I'm actually happy to be reminded every day that it could become a problem. I've played for a year and a half and stopped suddenly without ever going back for like 7 years.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: pineninja]
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pineninja said: The odds stay the same if you adjust your play/risk management accordingly. There will always be more stupid money at a tourney table than cash.
maybe so, but you have to run through a lot more stupid money to get paid. You can walk onto a cash game, sting the table before anyone adjusts to your play, and leave. rinse and repeat.
Wading through stupid money so what your saying is you sit down play super agressive and hope you don't get caught before you cash, very original...good luck with that.
Wrong. Decent players will adjust their play to yours if given enough time. It doesn't have anything to do with "playing super aggressive".
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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Nobody says, "I want to grow up to be a degenerate gambler".
I used to say I wanted to be a vagrant. Sounds fun
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23835024 - 11/15/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: my advice is to set a profit limit rather than a time limit. It can be whatever you want relative to your bankroll. The key here is overcoming the temptation to stay and play if you strike early and pummel a table right after you sit down. lets say you sit down at a 4-8 table and you're up $250 after the first 3 hands you play. why stick around for another 2 or 3 hours giving some of it back to the drop and the dealer?
Trust. I have the most solid discipline in the entire casino. max 300$ profit. Max 3 hours. Max 100$ a day. I leave if I lose on the first hand.
Sounds like u got some serious self-disapline. Thats a very nobble trait for gambling. Well done sir
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100$ is too low. I think you should set your limits higher if you want to build a bankroll. Id say at least 200$ and cash out at 1000$ time limit should not matter, only what you make per hour at the end of your day.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23835371 - 11/15/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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7 card stud is my game, I absolutely love it, but I'll be damned if I can't find a stud game at the tables in AC
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FUCK poker. You can do everything right and still get crushed by a donk's bad call.
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#23835724 - 11/15/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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just have a big enough bankroll and keep doing everything right and you'll win out over bad calls in the long term
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
#23835730 - 11/15/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I know, I'm just not a long-term player.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
#23835869 - 11/15/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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pineninja said: The odds stay the same if you adjust your play/risk management accordingly. There will always be more stupid money at a tourney table than cash.
maybe so, but you have to run through a lot more stupid money to get paid. You can walk onto a cash game, sting the table before anyone adjusts to your play, and leave. rinse and repeat.
Wading through stupid money so what your saying is you sit down play super agressive and hope you don't get caught before you cash, very original...good luck with that.
Wrong. Decent players will adjust their play to yours if given enough time. It doesn't have anything to do with "playing super aggressive".
Some have bots that rate a persons play style and adjust their decisions accordingly but most are just multi tabling and running with a formula, they aint worried about you how you play.
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#23836075 - 11/15/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well peeps. I made 65$ today!
Pretty much nothing, but a profit nonetheless.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23836153 - 11/15/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is that a Canadian thing? Putting the dollar sign after the number?
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: shadyy]
#23836167 - 11/15/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Congratz Patlal. You have the only thread on the first page of the pub that isn't about politics.
Good luck with your new career. Do you read books on this and all? I bet you do.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: shadyy]
#23836171 - 11/15/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is about ten dollars American.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23836176 - 11/15/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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just enough for a gram of cocaine ! that will sharpen your instincts and help you play longer. it's an investment.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: shadyy]
#23836363 - 11/15/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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i hate liz said:
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Patlal said: 65$
Is that a Canadian thing? Putting the dollar sign after the number?
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Patlal said: 65$
Is that a Canadian thing? Putting the dollar sign after the number?
You know what, I don't know. Maybe it's just me.
The way I see it you say "65 dollars", therefore 65$. You don't say "dollars 65" as in $65
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Moonshoe]
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I fully support pat becoming the next dan balzarian. Go for it op go for the gold
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#23836367 - 11/15/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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increasingly dan bilzerian recently stated he has retired from poker because the new generation of players have him out gunned. so hopefully patlal is a better player than Bilzerian
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Moonshoe]
#23836407 - 11/15/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I heard him say it on a podcast pretty recently. I remember him blaming online poker. Just not able to keep up.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: pineninja]
#23837365 - 11/15/16 11:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some have bots that rate a persons play style and adjust their decisions accordingly but most are just multi tabling and running with a formula, they aint worried about you how you play.
i wouldn't know about any of that, i only play live games.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ImmortalZodd]
#23839494 - 11/16/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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#23839521 - 11/16/16 05:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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75$ today. Could have been 140, but I did something stupid.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: RobZombie68]
#23839584 - 11/16/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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RobZombie68 said: Keep a job,,, play poker, in the long run whichever you are making more at, follow it.
From 16-18 I played poker online. Before they banned in the US. I made steady profit but it took a lot of reading and a lot of grinding. Online is purely statistical. When your playing 15 tables at a time you don't have time for much but to purely go on statistics.
I still go to the local bar every couple weeks and play. Usually end up tipping the dealer 50-60 bucks, paying for all my drinks, and 50-100 in profit. But I mostly play for fun. Most of the players are usually the same and know me by name.
Mostly they just like to gamble though while I play the odds. Easy marks.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23839666 - 11/16/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: 75$ today. Could have been 140, but I did something stupid.
Still in the green thou!
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23839695 - 11/16/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: 75$ today. Could have been 140, but I did something stupid.
Still in the green thou!
Once u hit the red, its a sad day 
Yeah, it can get rough sometimes. But generally speaking, I get a profit on most days.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23839708 - 11/16/16 06:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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nice.
do u have any wild predictions of your monthly profits? yearly profits? 
Also do u go to a casino or a private poker club to play?
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When I was 14 or 15 I won several first place finish es in play money (not real money ) in tournament out of 5K people ... thinking I was somewhat decent I convinced my dad to loan me 50 dollars to play for real . ... I lost it all with in a min or two
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said: nice.
do u have any wild predictions of your monthly profits? yearly profits? 
Also do u go to a casino or a private poker club to play?
No clue. As of right now I'm barely making minimum salary with poker. I just started. I'm not taking too many chances or playing too aggressively, I just want to make a small and steady profit of under 100$ a day. If I make more, of course, I'll take it, but it's not my goal right now. There are experienced players in the Ottawa/Gatineau area and they have been regulars for quite some time. I just started playing again after taking a decade break. I can't afford to go crazy
It's a casino. Government owned. Like most Canadian casinos. Operated by the state, for the benefit of the State. Dealers are government employees paid big salaries with full benefits, many vacation weeks and a guaranteed pension. And Just to pissed you off more, they get so much tip that they probably make a solid 50% more money on top of their government salary
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Patlal said: The reason behind this is: fuck the real world. I'm not walking the traditional path of jobs and promotions and shit anymore. Not for me. Never was. Hopefully one day I could go pro. Who knows? Lots of people make it big by doing what they want instead of what they have to. Why not me?
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
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damn. Looks like being a dealer is the real winner.
At this point, it sounds more like a part time job then a full career. But with bigger gambling, bigger wins or bigger loses.
Seems like a nice part time job to me
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LogicaL Chaos said: damn. Looks like being a dealer is the real winner.
At this point, it sounds more like a part time job then a full career. But with bigger gambling, bigger wins or bigger loses.
Seems like a nice part time job to me 
a good dealer without a shuffling machine deals something like 40 hands in an hour. more than that if they have a machine. they get tipped something by the winner of virtually every hand. they also have to smile and take the verbal abuse of all the losers though, so its not all great.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
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LogicaL Chaos said: damn. Looks like being a dealer is the real winner.
At this point, it sounds more like a part time job then a full career. But with bigger gambling, bigger wins or bigger loses.
Seems like a nice part time job to me 
a good dealer without a shuffling machine deals something like 40 hands in an hour. more than that if they have a machine. they get tipped something by the winner of virtually every hand. they also have to smile and take the verbal abuse of all the losers though, so its not all great.
Dealers make sooooooooooooo much in tips in stupid. My one buddy who was a dealer back in the day would make over $300 a night just in tips.
About 7 years ago there was a really good live game at a bar in town. They used red chips for $1 and green chips for $5. Well some drunk asshole comes to the table and buys in for $1000 while everyone else is sitting with $100 or less in chips. The guy says "max action" every hand making every pot worth $300 (our max pot at the time could not exceed $300). He wouldn't even look at his cards half the time. He got lucky a lot and was actually winning. Out of no where he says "Fuck these green chips, I only like red chips" as he tips the dealer literally $500+ in one hand. The dealer even told the guy what he was doing and the guy refused to take the green chips back and told the dealer to keep them. I was in shock, that dealer easily made $1,500 that night.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
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best of luck man, how's it going so far?
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Chakra Shock]
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Nice. I always thought it would be pretty fun to get my dealing license. Doesn't seem like it'd be that bad of a gig.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Enjoywho]
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i agree.
And if the players get too asshole-y, u can always motion a pit boss to come over and get rid of them
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23840565 - 11/17/16 01:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know of a poker computer that can run a winning % against the best humans... if we could convert it into software that could be streamed into digital contacts we could make millions
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: FruitOfLife]
#23840732 - 11/17/16 05:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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GL OP. Casinos are the way to go nowadays, online poker became much harder from what i heard
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: morpheus85]
#23842596 - 11/17/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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How much money did you make me today?
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#23842600 - 11/17/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nada. Day off.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23842647 - 11/17/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think you should get a dat off.
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#23842650 - 11/17/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23842948 - 11/17/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Day off? You've only worked 2 days! Be a little ethical.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23842955 - 11/17/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey, cheer up! Set sails and don't look back!!! 

Patlal, venture forth tonight and gander at the moon, and breathe deep in the peace of the cosmos. The tables are chance, the cards are fate, but through it all we have the freedom of choice!
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: shadyy]
#23842960 - 11/17/16 06:32 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23842969 - 11/17/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So what's your profit per hour for a 5 day work week. But your only doing 3 hours a day. When I was grinding online poker it was generally 5-8 hours. Same as a full time ish job.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: PatrickKn]
#23842970 - 11/17/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23842984 - 11/17/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You said you have a 3 hour max limit. That's 15 hours a week. So what did you make in those 15 hours. Or less.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Enjoywho] 2
#23842994 - 11/17/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enjoywho said: So what's your profit per hour for a 5 day work week. But your only doing 3 hours a day. When I was grinding online poker it was generally 5-8 hours. Same as a full time ish job.
Right now I'm winning less than minimum salary. I made 106$ in maybe 14 hours of playing. I'm really taking my time here. I got to readjust to casino poker.
Here's what I have to deal with:
- Good players that exploit that low stakes tables - Amateur players that will call stupid hands because they are amateurs - Gamblers that walked in a casino with a crazy idea that they were gonna gamble - Everything else in the middle
I have to:
- Spot the regulars - Get used to the betting pattern - Get rid of the jitters - Become a good player exploiting the low stakes table
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23843004 - 11/17/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23843035 - 11/17/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23843041 - 11/17/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enjoywho said: So what's your profit per hour for a 5 day work week. But your only doing 3 hours a day. When I was grinding online poker it was generally 5-8 hours. Same as a full time ish job.
Right now I'm winning less than minimum salary. I made 106$ in maybe 14 hours of playing. I'm really taking my time here. I got to readjust to casino poker.
Here's what I have to deal with:
- Good players that exploit that low stakes tables - Amateur players that will call stupid hands because they are amateurs - Gamblers that walked in a casino with a crazy idea that they were gonna gamble - Everything else in the middle
I have to:
- Spot the regulars - Get used to the betting pattern - Get rid of the jitters - Become a good player exploiting the low stakes table
I feel ya. I play every couple weeks at the local bar. They all know me by name and I come out with a lot of there money. I do not play against the few other sharks even with good cards. That's when I lose myself some chips.
I'd have to limp in and hit the nuts before I'd be willing to play against them. But other than that it's free pickings. Plus they have 10 people tourneys which are fun. Last one was like 20$ got first so walked out with 150$
I feel ya if you plan to be there a lot watching is always key first. Find out who your sharks and fish are.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Enjoywho] 1
#23843060 - 11/17/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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Enjoywho said: So what's your profit per hour for a 5 day work week. But your only doing 3 hours a day. When I was grinding online poker it was generally 5-8 hours. Same as a full time ish job.
Right now I'm winning less than minimum salary. I made 106$ in maybe 14 hours of playing. I'm really taking my time here. I got to readjust to casino poker.
Here's what I have to deal with:
- Good players that exploit that low stakes tables - Amateur players that will call stupid hands because they are amateurs - Gamblers that walked in a casino with a crazy idea that they were gonna gamble - Everything else in the middle
I have to:
- Spot the regulars - Get used to the betting pattern - Get rid of the jitters - Become a good player exploiting the low stakes table
I feel ya. I play every couple weeks at the local bar. They all know me by name and I come out with a lot of there money. I do not play against the few other sharks even with good cards. That's when I lose myself some chips.
I'd have to limp in and hit the nuts before I'd be willing to play against them. But other than that it's free pickings. Plus they have 10 people tourneys which are fun. Last one was like 20$ got first so walked out with 150$
I feel ya if you plan to be there a lot watching is always key first. Find out who your sharks and fish are.
Right now I play like, and consider myself as a goldfish in a shark tank. I can only feed on the crumbs and swim away from the sharks.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23843075 - 11/17/16 06:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Feel ya good luck. I've spent a lot of time playing and learning about holdem. I don't really want it as a job though like I did for online. Takes a lot of the fun out of a game I really do enjoy playing. Even when I lose I'm not doing it for profit all though that is nice. But if I lose 50 bucks but play for 2 hours that's fine with me.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Enjoywho]
#23843159 - 11/17/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enjoywho said: Feel ya good luck. I've spent a lot of time playing and learning about holdem. I don't really want it as a job though like I did for online. Takes a lot of the fun out of a game I really do enjoy playing. Even when I lose I'm not doing it for profit all though that is nice. But if I lose 50 bucks but play for 2 hours that's fine with me.
I treat this as a job. But its a really fun job because it very entertaining. It's the reason why I consider this an unusual thing to do
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23843181 - 11/17/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Liquor will take care of those jitters.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#23843189 - 11/17/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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A goldfish shouldn't drink around sharks, unless liquor, for that particular goldfish, turns them into a dolphin.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Chakra Shock]
#23843225 - 11/17/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was going to Vegas about every weekend. I'm really good at math and I was asked to join this team.
They counted cards.
I brought in so much money I didn't know what to do with it.
Until I tried to break away from the group and start my own thing...the "leader" thought that was a bit much.
Took everything I earned.
I fucked him over in the end, though.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: shadyy]
#23844342 - 11/18/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I have a hard time believing any of that. Card counting with 8 decks in the shoe is not that worth it.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23844500 - 11/18/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enjoywho said:
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Patlal said:
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Enjoywho said: So what's your profit per hour for a 5 day work week. But your only doing 3 hours a day. When I was grinding online poker it was generally 5-8 hours. Same as a full time ish job.
Right now I'm winning less than minimum salary. I made 106$ in maybe 14 hours of playing. I'm really taking my time here. I got to readjust to casino poker.
Here's what I have to deal with:
- Good players that exploit that low stakes tables - Amateur players that will call stupid hands because they are amateurs - Gamblers that walked in a casino with a crazy idea that they were gonna gamble - Everything else in the middle
I have to:
- Spot the regulars - Get used to the betting pattern - Get rid of the jitters - Become a good player exploiting the low stakes table
I feel ya. I play every couple weeks at the local bar. They all know me by name and I come out with a lot of there money. I do not play against the few other sharks even with good cards. That's when I lose myself some chips.
I'd have to limp in and hit the nuts before I'd be willing to play against them. But other than that it's free pickings. Plus they have 10 people tourneys which are fun. Last one was like 20$ got first so walked out with 150$
I feel ya if you plan to be there a lot watching is always key first. Find out who your sharks and fish are.
Right now I play like, and consider myself as a goldfish in a shark tank. I can only feed on the crumbs and swim away from the sharks.
Best. Metaphor. Ever.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23845372 - 11/18/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Yeah I have a hard time believing any of that. Card counting with 8 decks in the shoe is not that worth it.
Yeah well you clearly didn't go to MIT.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23845848 - 11/18/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Yeah I have a hard time believing any of that. Card counting with 8 decks in the shoe is not that worth it.
Yeah well you clearly didn't go to MIT.
I stand corrected.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23846079 - 11/18/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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do u have any wild predictions of your monthly profits? yearly profits? 
Also do u go to a casino or a private poker club to play?
No clue. As of right now I'm barely making minimum salary with poker. I just started. I'm not taking too many chances or playing too aggressively..
We play once a week 100 buy in, 2 re-buys, 10% house cut. Usually 8 top, sometimes as low as 5. With 5 (4 others) I may just take the rake. 8 top is always worth playing. Get a bovada account and start stacking up hands played. When irl keep a record of hands played, hands lost and how much so you know if you are actually stacking or not. The dopamine can trick you a lot of the time, though if im lookin for the rush I just play dice...
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: TheMovement]
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do u have any wild predictions of your monthly profits? yearly profits? 
Also do u go to a casino or a private poker club to play?
No clue. As of right now I'm barely making minimum salary with poker. I just started. I'm not taking too many chances or playing too aggressively..
We play once a week 100 buy in, 2 re-buys, 10% house cut. Usually 8 top, sometimes as low as 5. With 5 (4 others) I may just take the rake. 8 top is always worth playing. Get a bovada account and start stacking up hands played. When irl keep a record of hands played, hands lost and how much so you know if you are actually stacking or not. The dopamine can trick you a lot of the time, though if im lookin for the rush I just play dice...
My rule is to never rebuy no matter what. This is how you sink yourself in debt. You have to double up to get even or triple up to get even... You can never position yourself into "getting even" situations... It's the equivalent of doing more drugs to get the same high. Plus it opens the door to the idea that since you did 1 re-buy you might as well do another on while you're at it...
Discipline... You really need it. I was playing with maniacs today and got away from there with 39$ in profit after 3 hours.... Everybody else was winning 200$ a hand and losing 200$ the next hand in which case only the house wins. I saw at least 5 of the 9 guys around the table rebuy at 200 ish a piece. The table was full of chips, but it was just moving around from player to player without any of them leaving the table while they had a profit. I was folding KQ suited at some point of the game because the players were so volatile I couldn't take the risk to play anything unless it was one of those hands where these guys decided to go to the flop at the price of the blinds. But I came back home with 39$ I didn't have when I left, and that's what counts.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
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39 profit for 3 hours is 13 an hour nothing to write home about. You gotta be the shark to make it worth it. The stress alone takes away from your life force homie. Volatile, inconsistent, or fishy players make the game not worth it. Until you take their stack. Against fish, complacency is key but if they play every hand, it takes the skill outta it and it turns to gambling. Not cool. Switch tables at that point. That's why I run house.., puts odds in my favor for making money. People like to gamble, most do at least. Personally, I only play with favorable odds, but fish may play unfavorably, upsetting the balance, and end up getting lucky. Consider starting house games, increases your odds tremendously if you can find the crew. Might make some enemies, but you didn't force them to play..
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: TheMovement]
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TheMovement said: 39 profit for 3 hours is 13 an hour nothing to write home about. You gotta be the shark to make it worth it. The stress alone takes away from your life force homie. Volatile, inconsistent, or fishy players make the game not worth it. Until you take their stack. Against fish, complacency is key but if they play every hand, it takes the skill outta it and it turns to gambling. Not cool. Switch tables at that point. That's why I run house.., puts odds in my favor for making money. People like to gamble, most do at least. Personally, I only play with favorable odds, but fish may play unfavorably, upsetting the balance, and end up getting lucky. Consider starting house games, increases your odds tremendously if you can find the crew. Might make some enemies, but you didn't force them to play..
In order to take a stack, you first need to make it heads up against them. There was no heads up in this game. It was pure gambling. I stayed out of it and waited for the hands that were cheap where the volatile players had somehow folded.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
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TheMovement said: 39 profit for 3 hours is 13 an hour nothing to write home about. You gotta be the shark to make it worth it. The stress alone takes away from your life force homie. Volatile, inconsistent, or fishy players make the game not worth it. Until you take their stack. Against fish, complacency is key but if they play every hand, it takes the skill outta it and it turns to gambling. Not cool. Switch tables at that point. That's why I run house.., puts odds in my favor for making money. People like to gamble, most do at least. Personally, I only play with favorable odds, but fish may play unfavorably, upsetting the balance, and end up getting lucky. Consider starting house games, increases your odds tremendously if you can find the crew. Might make some enemies, but you didn't force them to play..
In order to take a stack, you first need to make it heads up against them. There was no heads up in this game. It was pure gambling. I stayed out of it and waited for the hands that were cheap where the volatile players had somehow folded.
I disagree with the heads up scenario, but we all play differently.., thats the variable I suppose. You can stack up quite easily just taking blinds if you're the big player at the table.
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Discipline... You really need it. I was playing with maniacs today and got away from there with 39$ in profit after 3 hours.... Everybody else was winning 200$ a hand and losing 200$ the next hand in which case only the house wins. I saw at least 5 of the 9 guys around the table rebuy at 200 ish a piece. The table was full of chips, but it was just moving around from player to player without any of them leaving the table while they had a profit. I was folding KQ suited at some point of the game because the players were so volatile I couldn't take the risk to play anything unless it was one of those hands where these guys decided to go to the flop at the price of the blinds. But I came back home with 39$ I didn't have when I left, and that's what counts.
what are you playing? 3-6? 4-8? some small NL buy in like 100?
If its one of the smaller limit games, don't be afraid to call a raise pre-flop if there is wild action on the table. If you don't get a piece of the flop, then you're done, oh well. If you do hit the flop, you're gonna get paid off. When you do, stack your chips and walk. The inverse is true if there is little action on the table. In this case, you have to make some pot building raises pre-flop so you can entice some action. They won't surrender their blinds forever. Make sure you get paid off on your winners. you don't want heads-up, you want 3-1.
If you are playing small buy-in No Limit, then you are truly gambling. These players are too wild. Most of them are there to lose a couple hundred, and they play with that mentality. Sounds good right? Not when you're playing with a small bankroll it isn't! On the other hand, if your bankroll is sufficient, just play correctly, and you'll skim the fuck out of em over the long haul. Still, for small money, you're better off in a limit game. Sometimes you can milk the bigger NL tables if you have the balls to build a small pot pre-flop and then bet the pot on the flop(don't do this on pure bluff obviously). On bigger tables, guys surrender $30 pre-flop bets the way a guy like me might surrender $8. Which means that you can "steal" just 1 or 2 small pots and walk with $300-$400 easy. Of course, you might get called, and lose, and that would suck if you were betting money you couldn't afford to lose.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
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I'm definitely monitoring this thread. I always thought it would be really cool to play in a wsop tourney.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: TheMovement]
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TheMovement said: 39 profit for 3 hours is 13 an hour nothing to write home about. You gotta be the shark to make it worth it. The stress alone takes away from your life force homie. Volatile, inconsistent, or fishy players make the game not worth it. Until you take their stack. Against fish, complacency is key but if they play every hand, it takes the skill outta it and it turns to gambling. Not cool. Switch tables at that point. That's why I run house.., puts odds in my favor for making money. People like to gamble, most do at least. Personally, I only play with favorable odds, but fish may play unfavorably, upsetting the balance, and end up getting lucky. Consider starting house games, increases your odds tremendously if you can find the crew. Might make some enemies, but you didn't force them to play..
In order to take a stack, you first need to make it heads up against them. There was no heads up in this game. It was pure gambling. I stayed out of it and waited for the hands that were cheap where the volatile players had somehow folded.
I disagree with the heads up scenario, but we all play differently.., thats the variable I suppose. You can stack up quite easily just taking blinds if you're the big player at the table.
I never would have pegged you as a poker player.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
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Discipline... You really need it. I was playing with maniacs today and got away from there with 39$ in profit after 3 hours.... Everybody else was winning 200$ a hand and losing 200$ the next hand in which case only the house wins. I saw at least 5 of the 9 guys around the table rebuy at 200 ish a piece. The table was full of chips, but it was just moving around from player to player without any of them leaving the table while they had a profit. I was folding KQ suited at some point of the game because the players were so volatile I couldn't take the risk to play anything unless it was one of those hands where these guys decided to go to the flop at the price of the blinds. But I came back home with 39$ I didn't have when I left, and that's what counts.
what are you playing? 3-6? 4-8? some small NL buy in like 100?
If its one of the smaller limit games, don't be afraid to call a raise pre-flop if there is wild action on the table. If you don't get a piece of the flop, then you're done, oh well. If you do hit the flop, you're gonna get paid off. When you do, stack your chips and walk. The inverse is true if there is little action on the table. In this case, you have to make some pot building raises pre-flop so you can entice some action. They won't surrender their blinds forever. Make sure you get paid off on your winners. you don't want heads-up, you want 3-1.
If you are playing small buy-in No Limit, then you are truly gambling. These players are too wild. Most of them are there to lose a couple hundred, and they play with that mentality. Sounds good right? Not when you're playing with a small bankroll it isn't! On the other hand, if your bankroll is sufficient, just play correctly, and you'll skim the fuck out of em over the long haul. Still, for small money, you're better off in a limit game. Sometimes you can milk the bigger NL tables if you have the balls to build a small pot pre-flop and then bet the pot on the flop(don't do this on pure bluff obviously). On bigger tables, guys surrender $30 pre-flop bets the way a guy like me might surrender $8. Which means that you can "steal" just 1 or 2 small pots and walk with $300-$400 easy. Of course, you might get called, and lose, and that would suck if you were betting money you couldn't afford to lose.
Agree with most said here. I wouldn't fold kq suited with a 10 buck raise. Depending position. Provided such a loose table. If you don't hit you fold. Simple as that. Never try and bluff raise but when you do hit you'll get paid. They were giving eachother chips all night you could've gotten a double up.
You only saw flops for the blinds? You always raise 3x the bb sounds like you lost some money that night. Sure you'll lose a small raise off the bb but when you do hit. That's where the money is.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Enjoywho]
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Those limped in pots and you do hit you hope somebody will bet but more often than not they just check as well. Than you don't get paid for a winning hand. Always raise into a pot. Or if you have a small pocket pair 10's down and don't hit your trip. Call preflop if you don't hit fold. Unless all the cards are smaller than your pair than you got to play the table and what you know about it.
You can't play with scared money. You have to have the bankroll to call down hands like that. The variance will win you a ton of money. Your limits that you've set mean you aren't really ready to make an actual career out of it. Your playing with scared money
If you lose a hand you had a 90% chance of winning you can't not play it next time. It happens.
I got beat with a 10/6 OS. With kk for a 100$. He had nothing and called my bets all the way to the flop. Hit a gutshot straight. I just rolled my eyes I couldn't have played it any differently. Quite a few people at the table gave me 5$ chips to get a drink. I just laughed no worries. I wouldn't have played that hand any differently. 95% of the time I win.
Next time I went dude was at the table. I walked with 300$ in my pocket. You have to have the bankroll and make solid plays. You will come out ahead over time. That's what poker is. Statistics. I don't have the bankroll I play for fun every 2 weeks. So it didn't bother me. But if you want to do it professionally you absolutely do need to know how to bankroll. For a 1/2 table you should have at least a 5000 bankroll and that's bare minimum. So you can actually play your chips like they should be. 39$ over 3 hours at a loose table. Playing scared.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Enjoywho]
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I currently trying to buidld my bankroll from a whopping 0 dollars. I'm skimming the tables. But don't worry, when I do hit something, I'm not afraid to go all in.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
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I don't understand how that is possible.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: koods]
#23847705 - 11/19/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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He already quadrupled his $0 stake.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#23847711 - 11/19/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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He's all in with every hand
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: koods]
#23847737 - 11/19/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I invested the first 100$....
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Don't short yourself on ammunition. It's one of the biggest mistakes people make. Always buy in for the maximum.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
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Thanks for the tip, but I will play the way I want to play
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It's your dime.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Moonshoe]
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: koods]
#23848836 - 11/19/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Honestly I got introduced to it about 2 years ago, probably a little more, and found that I had an affinity towards it. Got a lot of free time on my hands so I played a lot of online play chip games then switched to cash games along with inviting over fools with way too much money to give me theirs.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: TheMovement]
#23849021 - 11/19/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do any of you guys know of US poker sites with free rolls? Merge/Carbon used to have them but switched to points requirement...
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#23849039 - 11/19/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Try Seals With Clubs. It's a bitcoin host. I haven't used it in a long time though, things may have changed. They used to have tons of free rolls though. Instant payouts. Good host.
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Yep. You want as many chips as possible to ensure you have the max amount for when you do get paid. Only got half well half is all your going to get when you hit the nuts.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Middleman]
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Online is banned in the US. It's what ultimately made me stop playing. There's a few but they will just take your money and you will never get paid off them.
Too much money going to European countries as the big ones like PokerStars and fulfilt are there. Just like cocaine government doesn't really care until too much of our money is going to another country and not paying their taxes.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23861634 - 11/23/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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What's up? How's the poker going? Still in the black?
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
#23861681 - 11/23/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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still in the black
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#23861691 - 11/23/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I see a red door and I want to paint a hairless pussy on it.
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that would have been a more interesting song.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
#23861867 - 11/23/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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especially to make that sound good... seems like it wouldn't really be in 4/4 anymore. More of a 'zappaesque' approach to lyrics, you're onto something!
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
#23861877 - 11/23/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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No colors anymore, I want them to turn into hairless pussies.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23861987 - 11/23/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm bored. Where can we play head to head poker to the death?
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: koods]
#23862002 - 11/23/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I sure miss online poker, but goddam it was a time-waster. Up to $500 down to $100 back up to $500 back down to $100...
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Middleman]
#23862036 - 11/23/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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As stated earlier in the thread...
> come up with a way to stream data into this bot: http://poker.srv.ualberta.ca/
> have it play for you
> make a fuck ton of money 
statistically the bot plays a perfect game of poker 
It was trained using more poker games than the entire human race has played in its existence.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: twighead]
#23862373 - 11/24/16 01:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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> come up with a way to stream data into this bot: http://poker.srv.ualberta.ca/
> have it play for you
> make a fuck ton of money 
statistically the bot plays a perfect game of poker 
It was trained using more poker games than the entire human race has played in its existence.
the bot is pretty good. smoked me bad on my first run through. I'm gonna try again when i have more time to pay attention.
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#23862480 - 11/24/16 02:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
#23862508 - 11/24/16 03:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It makes some curious decisions sometimes in the short term- but it seems when you play it over the course of 75+ games it becomes nearly impossible to win.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: twighead]
#23862846 - 11/24/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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> come up with a way to stream data into this bot: http://poker.srv.ualberta.ca/
> have it play for you
> make a fuck ton of money 
statistically the bot plays a perfect game of poker 
It was trained using more poker games than the entire human race has played in its existence.
Those canadians are bad at poker cause I beat the shit out of that computer after 100 hands.
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lol. i was up 350 on hand 94. still managed to lose by 35 bucks. 
the bot has pretty predictable play though (it never limps in to a hand, for instance). The mistake i made the first time through was giving the bot's raises too much respect.
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Guys. I played for 4 hours today and I turned a $3 profit!
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23870479 - 11/26/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some days are gonna be like that, it's the nature of the game. Over all though, are you still meeting your minimum profit level?
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Patlal said: Guys. I played for 4 hours today and I turned a $3 profit!
Hell yeah.
How much do you think went down the hole in that 4 hours? How much do you think you toked the dealer?
I think that's the most frustrating thing. that's why i like your 4 hour rule; the rake takes a lot out of you on a 12 or 16 hour run. It forces you to be too profitable over too long of a span to make up for it.
nothing quite like walking away even, when you know that you toked the dealers 300 that day
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Patlal said: Guys. I played for 4 hours today and I turned a $3 profit!
Hell yeah.
How much do you think went down the hole in that 4 hours? How much do you think you toked the dealer?
I think that's the most frustrating thing. that's why i like your 4 hour rule; the rake takes a lot out of you on a 12 or 16 hour run. It forces you to be too profitable over too long of a span to make up for it.
nothing quite like walking away even, when you know that you toked the dealers 300 that day
If by toked you mean tipped, the answer is 0. I don't tip the dealers. They work at a high wage in a secure government protected job. I'm the one taking all the risk, the house takes a rake and I'm playing against good players. I'm not giving any of my winnings away ever. Forget that.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23871705 - 11/27/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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well, i don't know how it is in canada, but around here poker dealers only make about 20,000 in wages per year. They are paying their mortgages and feeding their kids with those tips. Also, when there is a dispute on the table and the floor manager gets called over, the dealer is going to remember the guy that never tips.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#23872183 - 11/27/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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$122 today! Played for an hour and 45 minutes
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23872545 - 11/27/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ya I usually play for a couple hours at the local bar. I tip out generally 40-80 bucks. But they aren't getting paid to deal they just volunteer to do it. Plus I'm usually so far ahead that it really doesn't matter to me.
If I drink all night for free. And walk out with 20 bucks in profit that's fine with me.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Enjoywho]
#23891583 - 12/03/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here's an update.
November summary:
$511 in gains $335 in losses
Profit of $176.
Mediocre, but for my first 2 weeks, I won't complain
I'm having a horrible December thus far. I'm only $50 ahead now. I made 3 bad decisions and I've been rivered twice. I have a lot to learn but I'm still in the black! $50 is $50 lol.
But don't worry. I'm very determined. I will succeed at this. I promised myself.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23891608 - 12/03/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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too bad you don't play online so we could all see a graph you know
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: venetianblinds]
#23891617 - 12/03/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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venetianblinds said: too bad you don't play online so we could all see a graph you know
I play real world poker where dumb mistakes, string bets and accidental showed card preflop because the card hit the table weird and flipped up.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: venetianblinds]
#23891618 - 12/03/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Chalk it up to a win either way. Gas money to and from the casino at least.
You're starting off pretty well considering.
You aren't drinking when you're playing or anything, are you?
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: PatrickKn]
#23891625 - 12/03/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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PatrickKn said: Chalk it up to a win either way. Gas money to and from the casino at least.
You're starting off pretty well considering.
You aren't drinking when you're playing or anything, are you?
I never drink while playing poker. I drink too much already. I'm not adding to it.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23891631 - 12/03/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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venetianblinds said: too bad you don't play online so we could all see a graph you know
I play real world poker where dumb mistakes, string bets and accidental showed card preflop because the card hit the table weird and flipped up.
I was at a tourney once where I called a guys allin, put my cards on the table and he tabled his, I had the better hand. and what did the real world dealer do? threw my fucking cards in the muck. end of hand. I finished second to that fucker.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23891664 - 12/03/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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PatrickKn said: Chalk it up to a win either way. Gas money to and from the casino at least.
You're starting off pretty well considering.
You aren't drinking when you're playing or anything, are you?
I never drink while playing poker. I drink too much already. I'm not adding to it.
Well that's no fun.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: venetianblinds]
#23891665 - 12/03/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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venetianblinds said: too bad you don't play online so we could all see a graph you know
I play real world poker where dumb mistakes, string bets and accidental showed card preflop because the card hit the table weird and flipped up.
I was at a tourney once where I called a guys allin, put my cards on the table and he tabled his, I had the better hand. and what did the real world dealer do? threw my fucking cards in the muck. end of hand. I finished second to that fucker.
Rules are rules. You fucked up. You pay for your stupidity.
Poker is already hard enough, don't go and fuck yourself over on top of it.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23891714 - 12/03/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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the fuck are you talking about. can you read? I called his allin. the dealer threw my cards away. and I still made more than you have so far from that bullshit.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: venetianblinds]
#23891752 - 12/03/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Interesting reading about the dopamine reward thing.ive turned $25 into $4500 betting sports in about two weeks.but I feel burnt out from grinding out games as opposed to the happy feeling I was getting at first.ive taken a two day break before tomorrow's football but it's pretty similar sounding to grinding out poker.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Uncledrew]
#23891778 - 12/03/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ya it becomes a chore. Well work. I didn't care much for it I made solid money playing online. Until black Friday happened I think they call it where it's now banned in the US. Good riddance.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: venetianblinds]
#23892957 - 12/04/16 06:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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venetianblinds said: the fuck are you talking about. can you read? I called his allin. the dealer threw my cards away. and I still made more than you have so far from that bullshit.
Oh yeah sorry. You should have called the pit boss cause they have your move on camera and you're definitely good. If what you're saying is true of course.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23893048 - 12/04/16 07:35 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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at least your making soem profit 
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23893111 - 12/04/16 08:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think he SHOULD quit his jay dob and dedicate himself fully to this.
If this is what he wants to do he has to give it 100%. All this other stuff going on is just a farce. It's a distraction.
Right now you're slacking because you can.
You gotta eat this shit for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
You must become poker.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23893967 - 12/04/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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venetianblinds said: the fuck are you talking about. can you read? I called his allin. the dealer threw my cards away. and I still made more than you have so far from that bullshit.
Oh yeah sorry. You should have called the pit boss cause they have your move on camera and you're definitely good. If what you're saying is true of course.
Ya I got into an argument with a black jack dealer. I stayed on 19 and she hit me. The fuck? Would've won that hand too. It didn't get me anywhere so I just left the table. This bitch is stupid.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Chakra Shock]
#24094411 - 02/16/17 03:26 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Patial how ya been doing? I started playing seriously again, I don't like the personality I take on while playing cards, but it's a fun way to waste time and make money. I've been 7 times in the past 26 days. These are my stats, rounding up or down depending.
1. +130 2. -100 3. +60 4. +270 5. -100 6. +130 7. +1080
That's all after drinks n nonsense. Last hand on the 7th table I had pocket aces and button , had worked myself up to nearly 2k, every player 8set limps in, I raise it to 90, all but 3 fold. flop is 8 2 7. Check's all around I bet 180. Both call. Turn is King, they check I bet another 180, both call. River is 3, they check I bet 160. One of the bastards had the set and I lost almost 1,000 hand -_-
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: TheMovement]
#24094661 - 02/16/17 07:16 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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My game is getting much better. Money wise the profits are not worth mentioning but I'm starting to get involved in more expensive pots. I know how to get more cash out of people than I would have a few months ago. My instincts are much better than they were. I no longer get intimidated by large bets even if I think I have the winning hand. I can also spot bluffs more easily. February is the lst month.
I was giving myself 6 months of ups and downs just to see if my instincts were correct. By the end of February it's going to be 4 months and I think I'll just go change gear right now. I'm at the point where I knw when to fold and when to call and I'm more than ready to raise and let curiosity go. Hence, playing to win as opposed to playing to know where I'm at.
Most players don't understand my approach to this because they want to win too much. They consider me a fish because I pay them off to keep them honest. What they don't understand is that I'm not paying them off because I'm bad at poker. I'm paying them off to confirm my instincts. If I put them on a pair and I make 2 pairs and there an obvious straight on the river and he bets. Instead of being afraid athat he has it, I play on what I think he has. Of course lots of times he will hit that straight with his kicker, but it also confirms whether or not I was right with the hand I put him on and to me, that information is worth more than the money at this point.
But like I said. I'm 2 months ahead of schedule in terms of experience and intuition. I think I might be ready to follow my instincs because I have proven them to be correct and I believe that in the long run, it's what is going to make me money. I'm going today with a goal of 300$ of profits. I'll back to you whether I pull it off or not.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#24094712 - 02/16/17 07:47 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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What's the rake per hand, min/max/%?
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: LunarEclipse]
#24094717 - 02/16/17 07:51 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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LunarEclipse said: What's the rake per hand, min/max/%?
It killer. 10% max 8$ per pot. But it's the only fucking place I can play poker. So it's an added challenge.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#24096372 - 02/16/17 08:00 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Patlal said: My game is getting much better. Money wise the profits are not worth mentioning but I'm starting to get involved in more expensive pots. I know how to get more cash out of people than I would have a few months ago. My instincts are much better than they were. I no longer get intimidated by large bets even if I think I have the winning hand. I can also spot bluffs more easily. February is the lst month.
I was giving myself 6 months of ups and downs just to see if my instincts were correct. By the end of February it's going to be 4 months and I think I'll just go change gear right now. I'm at the point where I knw when to fold and when to call and I'm more than ready to raise and let curiosity go. Hence, playing to win as opposed to playing to know where I'm at.
Most players don't understand my approach to this because they want to win too much. They consider me a fish because I pay them off to keep them honest. What they don't understand is that I'm not paying them off because I'm bad at poker. I'm paying them off to confirm my instincts. If I put them on a pair and I make 2 pairs and there an obvious straight on the river and he bets. Instead of being afraid athat he has it, I play on what I think he has. Of course lots of times he will hit that straight with his kicker, but it also confirms whether or not I was right with the hand I put him on and to me, that information is worth more than the money at this point.
But like I said. I'm 2 months ahead of schedule in terms of experience and intuition. I think I might be ready to follow my instincs because I have proven them to be correct and I believe that in the long run, it's what is going to make me money. I'm going today with a goal of 300$ of profits. I'll back to you whether I pull it off or not.
Getting more cash out of people=max value. Can turn against you though if someone gets lucky, sometimes it's better to just bet them out of the hand. LIke you have a KQ, limped in and an ace flopped, prolly coulda won the pot with a trip or a pot bet pre-flop.
I play low stakes, 1/2, so I usually dont mind staying in for the flop, but if I have shit and theres a trip bet I fold everytime, unless I have position I may reconsider. Learn your odd's. "how not to suck at poker" google it. Play online with play chips, I use full tilt. People fish out all the time but more hands played=better understanding.
Dress up when you go. Act like a boss. Seem intimidating. It allows you to bluff and take pot, most of the time. If someone calls back the fuck out but taking blinds is how you grind.
You don't have to play to see what he has, odds are someone will play against you. PLay base on your outs and your suspicion of the opponents. Let others give him their money. Watch the faces. And yes, follow your god damn intuiton. It knows things your conscious mind cannot comprehend.
How not to suck at poker, like I said, google it. and play full tilt. Hands played is everything in this nonsense of a game. Oh, and number theory.
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