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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ImmortalZodd]
    #23834095 - 11/14/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

As an aspiring pro MTG player, I support the fuck out of this.
May the odds ever be in your favor!


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: koods]
    #23834231 - 11/14/16 11:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Stick to tournaments. The play is much cleaner. Unless you're the richest guy at the table, it's too easy to get overpowered by a drunk guy with a big stack.




tournament play is too haphazard.  The increasing blinds force you to make plays that you wouldn't necessarily make in a cash game.  Like patrick said, a good player will grind the money out of the drunk guys with the big stacks over the long haul by making the correct plays (this is especially true in a Limit game).  Sure, he may draw his 1 outer on the river tonight, but day in and day out, the safe play makes money, and the luck play is a loser.  The guy to really watch out for is the quiet guy who folds most of the time and is reading a book.  He's a professional, and if he's in the hand, you should respect his bets or be prepared to pay the price.


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23834346 - 11/15/16 01:40 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The odds stay the same if you adjust your play/risk management accordingly.
There will always be more stupid money at a tourney table than cash.


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: pineninja]
    #23834362 - 11/15/16 02:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The odds stay the same if you adjust your play/risk management accordingly.
There will always be more stupid money at a tourney table than cash.




maybe so, but you have to run through a lot more stupid money to get paid.  You can walk onto a cash game, sting the table before anyone adjusts to your play, and leave. rinse and repeat.


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
    #23834380 - 11/15/16 02:33 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

awesome man, good luck!

U gunna play regular poker or texas hold em?

I played online on a phone app, world poker league or something. It was fun.

Good luck Maverick :cheers:


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23834399 - 11/15/16 03:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The odds stay the same if you adjust your play/risk management accordingly.
There will always be more stupid money at a tourney table than cash.




maybe so, but you have to run through a lot more stupid money to get paid.  You can walk onto a cash game, sting the table before anyone adjusts to your play, and leave. rinse and repeat.



Wading through stupid money:shrug: so what your saying is you sit down play super agressive and hope you don't get caught before you cash, very original...good luck with that.


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23834407 - 11/15/16 03:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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The odds stay the same if you adjust your play/risk management accordingly.
There will always be more stupid money at a tourney table than cash.




maybe so, but you have to run through a lot more stupid money to get paid.  You can walk onto a cash game, sting the table before anyone adjusts to your play, and leave. rinse and repeat.




Stack size is important. What kind of resources do the other players have is important. In a cash game. It's easy to get bullied around if your stack is more important to you than the other guys is to him. Tournament play evens the field.


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: ballsalsa]
    #23834658 - 11/15/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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my advice is to set a profit limit rather than a time limit.  It can be whatever you want relative to your bankroll.  The key here is overcoming the temptation to stay and play if you strike early and pummel a table right after you sit down.  lets say you sit down at a 4-8 table and you're up $250 after the first 3 hands you play.  why stick around for another 2 or 3 hours giving some of it back to the drop and the dealer?




Trust. I have the most solid discipline in the entire casino. max 300$ profit. Max 3 hours. Max 100$ a day. I leave if I lose on the first hand.


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
    #23834664 - 11/15/16 08:04 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I leave if I lose on the first hand.



The other rules are not bad, but this one seems out of touch. Sometimes the odds just aren't in your favor. If you're setting aside $100 to play with for the day, that should be your budget, rather than pulling out directly after your first loss.


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23834671 - 11/15/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I leave if I lose on the first hand.



The other rules are not bad, but this one seems out of touch. Sometimes the odds just aren't in your favor. If you're setting aside $100 to play with for the day, that should be your budget, rather than pulling out directly after your first loss.



What's what I was about to say, leaving after your first hand is like scooping if you don't get a turn one sol ring. :lol:


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23834672 - 11/15/16 08:07 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

always follow your dreams.

unless your dream is to be a professional gambler.

In that case, get a better dream. 

I predict If you do this you will screw up your life and regret it.

I watched my father destroy himself and my family through his gambling. I detest gambling and I also know that the odds are hugely against you.


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23834676 - 11/15/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Look into becoming a professional Magic player Patal,
It's like grown up poker for an anilitical mind.
I'd love to kick your ass at a pro tour some day. :grin:


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
    #23834683 - 11/15/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

PatKn: I have more than one thousand hours of experience if not 2000. I'm not new to this. I am currently working on my NL ring games. No tournement for now. As opposed to everyone else, I'm too patient and too conservative. I'm a marathon runner, not a sprinter. I've folded pocket kings preflop before and it was the right decision cause I would have been up againt aces.

As of the dopamine rushes. I no longer have them. I got them when I was nervous, but now I'm comfortable. I have built solid mental walls around my poker game because when you're in a casino all the time you see degenerate gamblers losing everything they have and there's is no fucking way I'm jumping on that boat. I saw a guy lose roughly 10000$ a day for 6 months. He sold his apartment buildings, remortgaged his house, cash in his retirement and then one day I never saw him again. All the regulars wondered what had happened to him and I still don't know to this day. So like I said, I am not getting on that boat.


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23834684 - 11/15/16 08:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I leave if I lose on the first hand.



The other rules are not bad, but this one seems out of touch. Sometimes the odds just aren't in your favor. If you're setting aside $100 to play with for the day, that should be your budget, rather than pulling out directly after your first loss.




Nope. I NEVER rebuy. EVER. 100$ a day is the budget and I don't not break the rules. Whether you think it rational or not, it is what it is. Every other player think is stupid too, but I'd rather be stupid than broke.


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23834686 - 11/15/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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always follow your dreams.

unless your dream is to be a professional gambler.

In that case, get a better dream. 

I predict If you do this you will screw up your life and regret it.

I watched my father destroy himself and my family through his gambling. I detest gambling and I also know that the odds are hugely against you.




I am fully aware that I'm playing with fire and I have set up every precaution in the book.


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
    #23834692 - 11/15/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

just consider developing a more meaningful skill or following a more meaningful profession as a plan B.

Then make it your plan A.

if you decide to pursue this against all advice then I wish you good luck.

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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
    #23834697 - 11/15/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I thought you meant losing the hand, not losing your entire buy in in the first hand. That's kind of how you worded it. :lol:

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PatKn: I have more than one thousand hours of experience if not 2000. I'm not new to this. I am currently working on my NL ring games. No tournement for now. As opposed to everyone else, I'm too patient and too conservative. I'm a marathon runner, not a sprinter. I've folded pocket kings preflop before and it was the right decision cause I would have been up againt aces.

As of the dopamine rushes. I no longer have them. I got them when I was nervous, but now I'm comfortable. I have built solid mental walls around my poker game because when you're in a casino all the time you see degenerate gamblers losing everything they have and there's is no fucking way I'm jumping on that boat. I saw a guy lose roughly 10000$ a day for 6 months. He sold his apartment buildings, remortgaged his house, cash in his retirement and then one day I never saw him again. All the regulars wondered what had happened to him and I still don't know to this day. So like I said, I am not getting on that boat.



That's good that you have some experience. What years did you play? Pre-2003-4 at all?

I can tell by your demeanor that you're probably a more patient type of player and said as much. That's good, and I can tell you'd be less likely to fall to compulsive behavior. I think long term playing, every day can cause some change in behavior though. Just be conscious of that is all I'm saying, it's worth watching out for.

Too patient and too conservative is perfect before the flop. It's arguably the best tactic for long term stability. Lot's of full time players will tell you to play aggressively after the flop in cash games and regular tourneys though.

You ever get into Fixed Limit?


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23834705 - 11/15/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I am fully aware that I'm playing with fire and I have set up every precaution in the book.




Nobody says, "I want to grow up to be a degenerate gambler".


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #23834728 - 11/15/16 08:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Nobody says "I want to be a methhead when they grow up". And then you got this website right here.


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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
    #23834738 - 11/15/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

but a lot of people say "I am going to use meth but don't worry I'm a very careful person and I have great self control and I will take every precaution so don't worry "

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