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Patlal
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Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. 4
#23833138 - 11/14/16 05:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I paid parts of my university tuition by playing Poker at the casino. I quit for a stupid job and never went back...
It has changed as of 3 days ago. I put aside 1500$ of expendable money for the time it will need me to get back in the game. I will be spending a maximum of 3 hours at the casino 5 to 6 days a week. I expect to bleed cash for the next week or so and slowly start turning in some profit after that.
The reason behind this is: fuck the real world. I'm not walking the traditional path of jobs and promotions and shit anymore. Not for me. Never was. Hopefully one day I could go pro. Who knows? Lots of people make it big by doing what they want instead of what they have to. Why not me?
The biggest challenge in this is already conquered. Getting my mother on board... She's now my "manager". She gets a daily progress update. I get peace of mind.
Of course I'm still gonna do some shifts until I can see whether or not this will be a profitable endeavor... I'm not completely stupid, just mostly.
So yeah.
Follow your dreams. Never quit. Never two without three. All all of these bullshit sayings.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal] 3
#23833159 - 11/14/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do it up. I've been selling my body for the same reasons.
I'll fuck for a buck, ya know?
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal] 2
#23833163 - 11/14/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: I paid parts of my university tuition by playing Poker at the casino. I quit for a stupid job and never went back...
It has changed as of 3 days ago. I put aside 1500$ of expendable money for the time it will need me to get back in the game. I will be spending a maximum of 3 hours at the casino 5 to 6 days a week. I expect to bleed cash for the next week or so and slowly start turning in some profit after that.
The reason behind this is: fuck the real world. I'm not walking the traditional path of jobs and promotions and shit anymore. Not for me. Never was. Hopefully one day I could go pro. Who knows? Lots of people make it big by doing what they want instead of what they have to. Why not me?
The biggest challenge in this is already conquered. Getting my mother on board... She's now my "manager". She gets a daily progress update. I get peace of mind.
Of course I'm still gonna do some shifts until I can see whether or not this will be a profitable endeavor... I'm not completely stupid, just mostly.
So yeah.
Follow your dreams. Never quit. Never two without three. All all of these bullshit sayings.
I'll tell you what my daddy told me:
Son, Poker's a tough way to earn an easy living.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: shadyy] 1
#23833169 - 11/14/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do something strange for a little piece of change.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: shadyy]
#23833184 - 11/14/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hope u win big cuz ur super nice patlal :]
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#23833195 - 11/14/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Always bet that the next card will be the right card and eventually you'll win big.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23833217 - 11/14/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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my advice is to set a profit limit rather than a time limit. It can be whatever you want relative to your bankroll. The key here is overcoming the temptation to stay and play if you strike early and pummel a table right after you sit down. lets say you sit down at a 4-8 table and you're up $250 after the first 3 hands you play. why stick around for another 2 or 3 hours giving some of it back to the drop and the dealer?
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] 2
#23833305 - 11/14/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That big dip from 2012 to 2014 was largely where I played poker all waking hours of the day that I wasn't doing necessary things. I still worked, but I did profit off poker when I was at my prime playing skills. I only played online for the most part, live games were few and far between. Only tournaments really for live stuff. Online I'd get down on FL Holdem, No Limit tournaments and sit n' gos, and double ups (double ups are incredibly boring, but profitable if you're patient).
I'd recommend playing online first to get your head around the game if you're serious about this. I don't know what your skill level is necessarily, but I'm willing to bet it's not several thousands of hours range. People who play online see thousands and thousands more hands than people who play in a live setting do, and get a better internal sense of what correct play really is. You develop a way of reading people from specific tells that translate into real life as well, and become less reliant on reading a persons face and opt instead to read a persons strategy and behavior. Many people you come across playing at casinos will also be people who've been playing for years online and in person, and they can wipe you clean in time if you're not careful.
Poker has a way of giving people false assurances that they are playing correctly that only long term experience can fix. You can have some good wins. You can go days on the up. And false hope will be your downfall. You seem to be the kind of person who has the patience to profit, but you must understand that profitable poker is not necessarily a fun endeavor. It's a painstaking grind to play at your optimum level, and not playing at that level makes for disastrous mistakes. I prefer working myself.
Play in online tournaments called free rolls. They will have thousands of players going against each other to win a paltry $5. If you can't win one of those, you'll have a difficult time winning a real tournament with real money on the table - consistently that is. If you can build your bankroll from free money, you have what it takes to be a full time poker player. If you can take $5 in free tournament tickets and turn it into $9000 in a couple weeks, you're playing correctly. Until then, and I mean this genuinely, don't quit your day job.
Playing poker and gambling games in general can have a long term impact on your reasoning. It can have a long term impact on your impulsive behavior threshold as well, as you are constantly exposing yourself to bursts of dopamine and false rewards. Every pot you win is a false reward, it feels good. As a long term player, you will go through thousands and thousands of winning pots. After a year or so of me playing poker, I lost my sense of value in dollars. I could look at $9000 sitting in my bankroll and not blink an eye. I could lose that much in a and feel nothing. No remorse. Dollars were points, they had no monetary value. This was necessary not to play scared and to make wise decisions regarding huge pots, but it's not good for the soul to lose all sense of value in something like that.
I had frequent dreams about poker too.
Edited by PatrickKn (11/14/16 06:41 PM)
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: PatrickKn] 1
#23833308 - 11/14/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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But if you decide to go into it and need any advice, I know quite a bit. Poker isn't a perfect science, that's why it's still played for money unlike chess. In a heads up game, a complete noob can beat a poker pro 43% of the time, or so it's said. That 7% adds up to a monstrous tax after a while and your losses grow exponentially. But winning 40% of the time can give you a false sense of hope too. It's something that players have to watch.
I'd record everything. Watch my play when I wasn't playing. Sometimes I'd have dual monitors running 20 games at a time. Mistakes are made, but patience is key.
Edited by PatrickKn (11/14/16 06:57 PM)
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: PatrickKn]
#23833376 - 11/14/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Try online. You can grind out profit from the comfort of your toilet. Plenty of little niche setups and fish that can be exploited.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: pineninja]
#23833459 - 11/14/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I can hardly trust the card dealers at a real casino... It wouldn't be easy to put trust into gambling on an online computer dependent game of digital poker. that's a suckers game.
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pineninja
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: PartoftheSource]
#23833466 - 11/14/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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PokerStars is legit. They make money out of amount of bets not who wins it would be foolish and risky for them to try and rig it.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23833555 - 11/14/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: Patlal]
#23833570 - 11/14/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Keep a job,,, play poker, in the long run whichever you are making more at, follow it.
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pineninja
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: RobZombie68]
#23833607 - 11/14/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a job but went on an extended break a couple of years ago. If your adept at counting and following structured play then like me you can grind out a profit like I did. It was fun at the start but quickly became boring and much like a job that I have actively avoided ie staring at a screen all day. Also I can make more back at my regular profession. Its nice to know I have a fallback that I can eek out a bit of cash on though.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#23833646 - 11/14/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I hope u win big cuz ur super nice patlal :]
Ur bluffing
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: koods]
#23833654 - 11/14/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stick to tournaments. The play is much cleaner. Unless you're the richest guy at the table, it's too easy to get overpowered by a drunk guy with a big stack.
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: koods] 2
#23833676 - 11/14/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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True, but over time the right play works in your favor. Whales take out the hasty players, piss off a few good players, and eventually donk out. I prefered to buy into GTD tourneys online in the early hours of the morning. Could usually get good placements. Highest tournament win was over $6000, but I loved playing higher stakes Fixed Limit and could arguably make more doing that.
My most successful runs were grinding Double Up sit n'gos though. Such a boring game, lots of people just put bots at play on those tables though, and the bots are far from perfect. I had it so my computer would alert me if I had a pocket worth playing, and would auto-fold otherwise for the first several rounds, and then I'd start to focus on the game around 30-40 minutes in. Could mash through a dozen games at a time doing this, and only needed to be in the money 55% of the time to be profitable over the long run.
Edited by PatrickKn (11/14/16 08:16 PM)
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: koods]
#23833683 - 11/14/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: Stick to tournaments. The play is much cleaner. Unless you're the richest guy at the table, it's too easy to get overpowered by a drunk guy with a big stack.
The cash tables are rigged. All it takes is a few mates and a hidden chat window(trust me).
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Re: Well this is it! I have reconsidered poker as a career. [Re: pineninja]
#23834093 - 11/14/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would def. log as many online hours as possible on stars..
You don't live in the US so take advantage.
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