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tump
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Because its old info even vendor's say they last forever. The only reason i put polyfil in front of the others is the speed on which i can do it mixed with the cost a bag of 14.99 Polyfil makes 1250 +/- 30 jars. And no silcone cost, with tyvek, felt, sfd your placing it a day ahead. Takes all the fun out of 90 jars of spawn need to be make today.
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frankwhite85
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Re: ge filter debate ! [Re: tump]
#23832247 - 11/14/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have those 1/16th inch thick sfd's from mycosupply and they've definitely had over 30 pc runs. guess its time to order again.
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Marty Mycfly
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Re: ge filter debate ! [Re: tump]
#23832259 - 11/14/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tump, you need to use f-ing bags! Why on earth would you spend that much time and labor on making spawn jars when we have already developed techniques of producing mass amounts of spawn with only 1/3 of the labor and materials.
If you want to know what is BEST, take no further look than the commercial spawn industry.
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Pastywhyte
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Cause most people don't run enough to wear em out.
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frankwhite85
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thanks again for your input pasty your like a guardian angel haha so do you have like a schedule of when you know to order more SFD's or do you always do that agar test when you start seeing contam?
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Marty Mycfly
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I don't think bags are efficient for people not making lots of spawn, but people like trump making hundreds of jars, or even if you run more than 50 it's an absolute service to yourself to move to bags. However, if you do run a shit ton of jars SFD's are the way to go, both for ease and reliability.
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PinPornProducer
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I run alot of spawn, not an insane amount but a decent amount. Like maybe 80-100 every month or 2. I like jars for a couple reasons. They are re usable, so not having to worry about buyng more is a plus and if something went wrong as far as contams go, instead of 1 quart jar of spawn going to shit you have an entire bag of spawn gone to shit.
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A.RichardTrickle
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Pastywhyte said:
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frankwhite85 said: Wont a bleach solution soak remedy contamination problems with SFD's?
No. The problem with most filter materials is that the pores expand after multiple cycles in the PC. Some like SFD can last for 30 runs or so while others like tyvek is good for only one use.
For SFD users an easy test to see if your filters are still up to the task is to use the lids on no pour agar jars then leave them uninoculated. If contams show the filter is done.
In your opinion, how many runs should one get from poly? Thanks Dick
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Pastywhyte
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Never used poly so I honestly don't know.
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tump
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Poly is only good for two runs if keep dry and grain free. I have a very high spore load so they only last between 55 to 70 days before contams sneak in. Even twice used sfd last me 90 to 100 days before failure. I always leave a half full jar not inoculated each big run just to see when it contams and how.
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spacechildo
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Re: ge filter debate ! [Re: tump] 2
#23832728 - 11/14/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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complete bullshit. your shit fails because you dont know healthy myc from cotton candy tump.
also the reason he says such crazy high jar numbers is to look cool and skilled. do yourself a favor and never listen to a word he says, or simply do the opposite of what he says.
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TheShroomster01
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Where does he state that?
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AlCapone2k
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I haven't done so many jars yet to give a good advice, but I can tell that I'm happy with Polyfil or other pillow stuffing. Its good, its cheap and I don't care about reusability. After every PC Cycle I change the polyfil. One bag cost me 12$, will last a year at least.
Why risk the much more valuable rye, mycelium and agar to save some cents for the polyfil change
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spacechildo
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because stuffing holes as tightly as you need to is fuckin tiresome work. they last 10+ runs easily. then they just look and feel too worn out for my liking, probably still good to use another dozen times.
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AlCapone2k said: I haven't done so many jars yet to give a good advice, but I can tell that I'm happy with Polyfil or other pillow stuffing. Its good, its cheap and I don't care about reusability. After every PC Cycle I change the polyfil. One bag cost me 12$, will last a year at least.
Why risk the much more valuable rye, mycelium and agar to save some cents for the polyfil change 
I don't even change mine
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spacechildo
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Re: ge filter debate ! [Re: cronicr]
#23833166 - 11/14/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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there ya go!  lesson learned, fuck how it looks as long as it works!
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AlCapone2k
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Haha i think it depends on the number of jars
with my all in all 16 Jars it's not so much work
But yes, I will reuse them in future at least a couple of times.
Regards
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spacechildo
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if its not much work you're not stuffing the holes tight enough. or you have some great tools and I'd like to learn whatever tips you got
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A.RichardTrickle
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I've used these only a few times, I stuff em tight (like my wife) and trim em up so it stays tidy. Good to know. When the wife gives me some extra allowance I'll grab a pack of sfds, maybe. Dick
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morty422
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Quote:
spacechildo said:

complete bullshit. your shit fails because you dont know healthy myc from cotton candy tump.
also the reason he says such crazy high jar numbers is to look cool and skilled. do yourself a favor and never listen to a word he says, or simply do the opposite of what he says.
Preach, boy!....PREACH!
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