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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23836771 - 11/15/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Moonshoe said:
hopefully the ice age ; because that is the only thing that will freeze the methane down there before it's too late.

this isn't hypothetical or theoretical.  it is actually, and indisputably, happening right now.

not will happen soon.  IS happening now.

research and you will learn the truth. honestly I badly wish I had never learned this.




So we all gonna die? Then stop wasting my money on stupid global climate hoaxes and let me enjoy that shit!

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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: Mescalean]
    #23836774 - 11/15/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

your mind is what you summon on mushrooms. psychedelics do not make you "hippy-dippy"; they show you the art and life of the mind.



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How would you get them to listen and to what?




to themselves. and how is up to them. there was an agreement, when one gets to be at such a height of propensity as to not be aware of the ripples they make, or the way they are acting, as actors, they are creating an ego around their identifying with the group, they are trying to make it so that when they speak they have to be accommodated by the group, and the group has the tendency to follow in order to appease the one and the all, the group and the leader...but there is no natural leader in a group of free-thinkers...so when one does this, "upsetting the balance" that is the fact of everyone being on "equal ground" (in terms of their potential in propagating groupthink). this creates displacement, illogical & inappropriate accommodation and assimilation; it becomes conditioning -- it can either be mundane, or it can lead to people acting like stark-raving mad idiots, laughing at the silliest inquiries, and demanding the most strict of attention to their mind games...at some level one can manipulate people in this regard. this is the life of the mind.

i say it's a bad idea to go about it willy-nilly. :shrug: heed these words or no, for yourself, it's certainly something the SJWs need to learn to consider.


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23836780 - 11/15/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Been awhile since I've seen religion brought into a political conversation.

Do you think it causes bias among politics? Do you think political leaders cater to a religious mentality and feed the masses comfort?

How does that explain the shift of voters who at one time vote for a liberal candidate then a conservative one?




because people thought there'd be a nuclear conflagration akin to the end times of the Bible, if Hillary won, because they were told that was the case -- it was partially accurate. she did say some stupid shit...no-fly zone over Syria...can someone explain the logistics here, of how that was supposed to be a safe idea?

see, what i did there?


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23836797 - 11/15/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23836801 - 11/15/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

did you appreciate my breakdown of the memetics of group-think?


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23836808 - 11/15/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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PeyoteZen said:





That's a really good one!

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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23836809 - 11/15/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

tl;dr


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23836810 - 11/15/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Does that really sum up an answer to a question that focuses on a broader view of things but requires a specific answer?

I realise my question is fairly generalised. Still, that's what a president is assigned to take care of. They are responsible for the overall quality of life in the most basic general sense and must fix it with very specific methods and decisions.

I know it's all bullshit. The guy isn't going to build your house, cook your food, do your laundry, fix your car, do the gardening, brew you beer and regulate a healthy metabolism for your families organ circulation, as well as make it all affordable. He won't do it because he can't. He sure will claim all that's possible though.

No president has ever done that. They all claim they will though. Yet none ever do. Yet they all win elections. In fact people even think it's stupid not to vote. Regardless of the fact that every candidate is a liar.

Then you brought religion into it. I just thought you might elaborate on the religious aspect of voting more.


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23836818 - 11/15/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
did you appreciate my breakdown of the memetics of group-think?




I am calling you out that specifically

I don't see where

You broke down the memetics of group think

You've quite clearly insulted it but have you broken it down? I don't feel you've clarified it that well.


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23836820 - 11/15/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

PeyoteZen said:
tl;dr



well, i can break it down, you can only post the memes other's have made themselves. :shrug: you're a pawn.


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23836831 - 11/15/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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imachavel said:
Quote:

akira_akuma said:
did you appreciate my breakdown of the memetics of group-think?




I am calling you out that specifically

I don't see where

You broke down the memetics of group think

You've quite clearly insulted it but have you broken it down? I don't feel you've clarified it that well.



ask questions:

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akira_akuma said:
there was an agreement, when one gets to be at such a height of propensity as to not be aware of the ripples they make, or the way they are acting, as actors, they are creating an ego around their identifying with the group, they are trying to make it so that when they speak they have to be accommodated by the group, and the group has the tendency to follow in order to appease the one and the all, the group and the leader...but there is no natural leader in a group of free-thinkers...so when one does this, "upsetting the balance" that is the fact of everyone being on "equal ground" (in terms of their potential in propagating groupthink). this creates displacement, illogical & inappropriate accommodation and assimilation; it becomes conditioning -- it can either be mundane, or it can lead to people acting like stark-raving mad idiots, laughing at the silliest inquiries, and demanding the most strict of attention to their mind games...at some level one can manipulate people in this regard. this is the life of the mind.




explain where you think i've failed.

PS: i never insulted it. i said there was an agreement; it can be misused, and or one can be unaware of manipulation. the most uncanny of manipulation is the kind you do, seemingly, in the open...that's more fun and more useful anyway, to be honest about it, at least. that why, there is no identification with an ego around the group. that way the group remains "the group".

without some manipulation there is no functional group. but with too much the group splinters.

in basic terms.

how am i wrong?


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23836842 - 11/15/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I made this meme special just for you



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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23836845 - 11/15/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

it's pretty crap.


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23836858 - 11/15/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

here's an awesome meme, the original Kek meme

praise Kek, right Bible thumpers?




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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23836868 - 11/15/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't see that post

Ok, a more personal question then. What makes you think YOU'VE avoided falling into that group? How did you avoid it? Why do others fail at avoiding it?

How can this solution to being constrained from existing in a free thinking society be applied to the president elect? Do you not think left and right are opposite sides of the same herd running into a ravine to avoid the plague of a lifeless society without Jesus?

Jesus doesn't even exist to explain to the common man today that blind decisions are there to feed the masses of idiots who run from themselves and the ignorance their lack of ambiguity creates. No Jesus. No application to the discipline that guessing is cheap and guess work should be removed because blindly making huge decisions based on cheap analysis can only have expensive results.

Why? I don't know. It's almost like the president is more like someone's daddy then an actual political leader to most people. "The power and decisions are in people's hands"

Since when? Why would I need a daddy if the answer to changing my life is up to me? Why the need for excessive infrastructure? Constantly changing policies?

I remember Obama saying "you take that road to work? You didn't build that, someone else built that for you."


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23836909 - 11/15/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: imachavel]
    #23836927 - 11/15/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Ok, a more personal question then. What makes you think YOU'VE avoided falling into that group? How did you avoid it? Why do others fail at avoiding it?




i've many a time failed at being the center of my own flames. i've failed before and will fail again, especially in times of need, and or desire. if i'm not careful, i can easily begin a conflagration, and i've done so in the past. it wasn't even good for me...all i did was smoke weed and do mushrooms and mdma hoping to eventually create music that was a worthwhile endeavor of creation, and this hope didn't even come into fruition because of it being out of control, and because of my eluding all my well-wishers because they couldn't do what needed to be done anyway, and i didn't recognize that, and eventually people took to something else, most people. this hope had domineered my life for the longest time -- i was endeared to being at the center of it all, in this hope, but little did anyone realize, and little could i muster to do about it, being given all that i was, that that fire turned into little more than smoke, and those whom i influenced simply had to abandon ship, even with some of their hopes instilled into it.

a lot of time was used up, for me...people had learned and moved on, become adults, and grew up; all before i had realised they were no longer a part of that which they ascribed themselves to, but i was heeding their every move, in order to stay in order.

but i also learned, seeing as though from confusion comes understanding.

but others can avoid it by simply remember that they are in mortal coil trying to delve out of a mass delusion, and that delusion is that reality isn't artificial.

and then not delude yourself into egotism that creates havoc for yourself and those around you. or you can. this isn't a moral issue...just a memetic one.

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Since when? Why would I need a daddy if the answer to changing my life is up to me? Why the need for excessive infrastructure? Constantly changing policies?

I remember Obama saying "you take that road to work? You didn't build that, someone else built that for you."



you see people lapping up everything you say with laughs and cries, and jeers, and egotism, you know you're already there along with them...see through it and realise that you can manipulate people for good. :shrug:


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23836932 - 11/15/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm

Catch 22 eh?


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: imachavel]
    #23836937 - 11/15/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

yes. you can't just "stop" this. this is a part of human cognition, and only the intellectually honest can even hope to break the cycle of conditioning people's minds dishonesty. people take psyche courses...but i don't think it's enough, mostly. you ever been to a quack? they are trained to not accidentally manipulate you, ala Freud, because it's just that easy, even for a train professional in psychology, to fuck up.

that's how hard it is to not manipulate people...people need literally psychological training to just not do it.


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23836977 - 11/15/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

i think the best way, is like my friend said, when he eventually moved on from the band of merry idiots and got into life with the wife and kid -- and i'm paraphrasing here, but "you have to separate yourself from the herd, to see clearly, and know what you want and know what you can bring to the table".


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