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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: The Cheshire Cat]
    #23833872 - 11/14/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

ASPD is normally a debilitating illness. I know there's this myth of the sociopath CEO, but those who succeed in life with ASPD are the outliers, the extreme rarities.

It's like saying that because The Beatles took acid and wrote great music that therefore anyone who takes acid will write great music. That isn't actually the case because The Beatles are the outliers, the rarity.

It's extremely unlikely that either of them suffers from it, and if they did they probably wouldn't be able to function in an election. You all under appreciate just how dysfunctional someone with ASPD is in society.

People who genuinely have ASPD normally have difficulty holding down even simple jobs, always have zero stable relationships with other human beings, have extreme difficulty planning for the future or predicting the consequences of their actions, and tend to act socially inappropriately in social settings.

The average person with ASPD is ludicrously more likely to be living in prison than living in a million dollar home. In fact, the places with by far the highest percentages of ASPD are high security long term penitentiaries.


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: Konyap]
    #23833900 - 11/14/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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It's not the 1% it's the fucking lunatic civil servants
and real estate people
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http://data.newsday.com/long-island/data/teacher-administrator-salaries/2014-2015/
2014-2015 teacher and administrator pay
Bisso, Joyce M 9/1/71 Hewlett-Woodmere Union Free Schools $625,214.92
Abulafia, Ovadia 11/17/97 SUNY Health Sci Center at Brooklyn (28100) $539,076.08
Lucchesi, Michael P 5/2/94 SUNY Health Sci Center at Brooklyn (28100) $506,590.03
DeAngelo, Louis R 3/1/76 East Meadow Union Free Schools $454,527.86
Takeuchi, Esther S 9/1/07 SUNY at Stony Brook (28050) $418,936.40
Grishman, Henry L 9/1/67 Jericho Union Free Schools $371,374.02
Streitman, Jeffrey B 9/1/74 Syosset Central Schools $371,124.48
Wool, Louis N 9/1/81 Harrison Central Schools $359,325.55
Hunderfund, Anna F 9/3/74 Locust Valley Central Schools $355,833.45
Brown, Joyce F 9/1/68 Fashion Institute of Technology $353,688.96
Lazzaro, Douglas R 7/11/01 SUNY Health Sci Center at Brooklyn (28100) $333,561.71
Scordo, Peter C 6/30/73 Elwood Union Free Schools $331,705.45
Johnson, William H 12/1/79 Rockville Centre Union Free Schools $323,248.00
Fallon, Kelly A 9/1/84 Half Hollow Hills Central Schools $320,779.26
Goodman, Amy J 12/14/81 Greenburgh-Graham Union Free Schools $314,757.95
Lagnado, Mary A 2/3/88 Westbury Union Free Schools $308,251.89
Fukaya, Kenji 4/1/13 SUNY at Stony Brook (28050) $305,010.87
Mustich, Peter J 9/1/72 Rye Neck Union Free Schools $304,908.00
Ring, Michael F 5/8/03 Rocky Point Union Free Schools $304,171.47
Feller, David S 9/1/80 North Merrick Union Free Schools $300,782.83
Feirsen, Robert D 5/1/78 Garden City Union Free Schools $300,506.98
Johnston, James B 8/31/83 Haverstraw-Stony Point Central Schools $300,008.15
Sullivan-Kriss, Patricia A 5/28/74 Hauppauge Union Free Schools $297,172.00
Quattrone, David F 8/1/05 Bronxville Union Free Schools $295,948.96
Clouet, Christopher P 7/1/09 UFSD of the Tarrytowns Union Free Schools $295,166.67
Melnick, Edward K 7/1/87 North Shore Central Schools $294,990.00
Brenner, Daniel S 7/1/84 Roslyn Public Schools $292,250.67
Kuncham, Kishore 8/14/89 Freeport Public Schools $291,603.27
James, Donald A 9/8/92 Commack Union Free Schools $290,812.12
Shaps, Robert I 8/21/06 Mamaroneck Union Free Schools $288,876.49
Ciuffo, Benjamin 9/1/70 Jericho Union Free Schools $285,315.72
Cardillo, Charles S 9/2/75 Manhasset Union Free Schools $284,564.00
Silverstein, Mark K 9/1/75 Hawthorne-Cedar Knolls Union Free Schools $280,785.40
Rogers, Thomas L 8/1/91 Syosset Central Schools $279,914.40
Bierwirth II, John E 3/1/74 Herricks Union Free Schools $279,501.00
Napolitano, Ralph A 9/1/77 Yorktown Central Schools $279,491.56
Singer, Bruce 8/9/82 Sachem Central Schools $278,799.06
Conway, Timothy J 4/5/82 Brewster Central Schools $277,078.61
Detommaso, John N 9/6/88 Bellmore-Merrick Central Schools $276,971.06
Ryan, James M 10/1/74 Carmel Central Schools $276,322.90
Hochman, Jere I 7/1/08 Bedford Central Schools $276,082.70
Weber, Peter J 9/1/73 Hewlett-Woodmere Union Free Schools $275,799.00
Bond, Joseph C 9/1/93 Brentwood Union Free Schools $274,605.55
Famularo, Joseph S 5/20/91 Bellmore Union Free Schools $273,118.02
Lorentz, John 1/19/88 Farmingdale Union Free Schools $272,574.00
Nocero, Mark A 9/1/80 Eastport-South Manor City School District $272,022.81
Harrington, Phyllis S 9/1/80 Oceanside Union Free Schools $270,930.63
Leunig, Charles A 9/1/81 Copiague Union Free Schools $270,759.95
Dolan, Thomas P 1/30/78 Great Neck Public Schools $270,741.67
Lewis, Lorna R 9/1/84 Plainview-Old Bethpage Central Schools $270,300.00








Most of those are free schools. Those are not public schools. They are charter schools and the administrators are not civil servants.

If you work for the federal government, you're not making a lot of money no matter how senior or important your position. The heads of agencies and cabinet positions make 150-175K a year. Compared to executive positions in the private sector, it's peanuts. Hillary Clinton's salary as Secretary of State was $169,000.


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23833910 - 11/14/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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there are aspects of sociopathy that Trump has an Clinton doesn't, but also several aspects of sociopathy they both clearly have.




Did you read Clinton's emails? I think most people come away with a fairly decent opinion of her if they read them with an open mind.


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: koods]
    #23834022 - 11/14/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

She was fucking pizzas and hot dogs for fuck's sake, what a twat.


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23834028 - 11/14/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

She doesn't even like pizza walnut pasta orgies


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: nooneman]
    #23834033 - 11/14/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Not all criminals are psychopaths. Not all psychopaths are criminals. :shrug:

But it is true a large portion of people with ASPD are in prison, in fact 20-25% of the prison population has ASPD.

However... the statement about ceo's not having ASPD is incorrect.
Surgeons, Lawyers, wallstreet business men, and CEOs actually tend to have high percentages of psychopathy among top paying professions. The ability to be cool under pressure, to be Amazing at manipulating&persuading others, the ability to be Charismatic(getting people to like and trust you), and to have no empathy or remorse is an advantage for those willing to succeed in a capitalistic world.

As Kevin Dutton put it in his book on the wisdom of psychopaths, "A very high dose of psychopathy (all the dials turned up to max) is as bad as a very low one. Instead, it's moderate levels that code for greater “accomplishment.”"

Sources:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay/2013/01/05/the-top-10-jobs-that-attract-psychopaths/#5b4da38d73c3
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0015230/


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: koods]
    #23834036 - 11/14/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

300,000

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Frank J. Carasiti Elementary School
Rocky Point Union Free School District, NYK-2
B+
Joseph A. Edgar Imtermediate School
Rocky Point Union Free School District, NY3-5
B+
Rocky Point Middle School
Rocky Point Union Free School District, NY6-8




I've even heard stories of these people not coming into work on friday..
if you take away the extra stuff that's still 150,000

50-100 working class families have to pay for this every year

if 10 million people just paid 2000 dollars it'd be 20billion
if they pay 7000 it's 70 billion
70 billion and the roads look like shit lol


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: The Cheshire Cat]
    #23834038 - 11/14/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Do you think Donald Trump is a psychopath?


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23834052 - 11/14/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

He's clearly a sociopath. He fits the diagnostic criteria beautifully.


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #23834072 - 11/14/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

He is more narcissist IMO. But I may be wrong, he has many ex-wifes. But so would a narcissist. :shrug: only a certified psychologist can answer this question


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: koods] * 5
    #23834174 - 11/14/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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He's clearly a sociopath. He fits the diagnostic criteria beautifully.





so do you and hillary


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: koods] * 1
    #23834288 - 11/15/16 12:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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He's clearly a sociopath. He fits the diagnostic criteria beautifully.




I dunno if we can really accurately assert that, I mean sure he could well be, so could most politicians, but maybe he's just a narcissist, and maybe not even that maybe he's just a dick :shrug: same goes for Clinton, I really doubt my ability to accurately profile either of them from their public appearances


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: SleepyE]
    #23834313 - 11/15/16 01:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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He's has severe personality defects that make him a very dangerous person to be leading a country. I wouldn't have voted for him if I agreed with his politics. There is something wrong with him,



i feel the same. though I do hope he does well for america, but i dont trust him based on how he treats people. Calling everyone losers and stuff gets kind of annoying.

and i hope he was joking about climate change being a hoax.




The climate changes, this is a fact

***man made climate change is a hoax


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23834352 - 11/15/16 01:48 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

actually they said we're going to skip the next ice age in 50,000 years


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23834427 - 11/15/16 03:51 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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He's clearly a sociopath. He fits the diagnostic criteria beautifully.





so do you and hillary



So you agree with Koods that Trump fits the diagnostic criteria of a sociopath beautifully.

Thanks for clearing that up...  :cookiemonster:
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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: vinsue] * 1
    #23834435 - 11/15/16 04:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I expect very good things out of Trump. I know, I know go ahead and flame me but Trump is not a stupid man. He isn't a politician either, but he is a great business man. I think it's about time to give someone besides a crooked fucking politician a chance. Trump is smart enough to know that if he surrounds himself with successful people he will be successful. I think he will do great things, and even if he does, everyone bitching and moaning still won't admit it. The Republicans have both houses and the presidency so if anything can be done, now is the perfect time. Everyone just needs to settle down and give the man a chance and see what happens. It's going to happen anyways?


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: Asante] * 4
    #23834445 - 11/15/16 04:10 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

There are over 350 million Americans (much larger than the actual electorate who turned out to vote in this election) and more than half of the ones that voted didn't vote for him.  Nice sensationalized intentionally inflammatory political post though.  I hope you get the circle jerk of liberals like koods you were hoping for.

Blame HRC and her rigged DNC primaries, and the echo chamber media who refused to adequately cover the WikiLeaks details about how far the corruption went to ensure her nomination/coronation (up to an including murder of key witnesses - but of course, that will be discounted as bullshit because that's what they said on whatever media outlet :stonedjerk:).  She barely campaigned in vital areas that weren't already heavily leaning in her direction.  She expected to be handed the presidency and was shocked when middle America showed up in huge numbers to reject her either for political reasons or simply to reject everything she stands for and hopefully end the extremely corrupt political dynasty.  I think we all fear the worst and hope for the best with Trump, he's kind of a joke no matter how you slice it, but at least he's not a political insider and hawkish warmonger like HRC.

Maybe next time the DNC won't rig the entire thing against the most popular candidate and deny voters their choice in the end.  Bernie was even in on letting her off the hook for "the damn emails," like the handling of classified info isn't important at all.  He got paid off to give a half hearted blessing to HRC and he took his money and went back to Vermont and built himself a nice new house.

Gosh, it sure is easy to post inflammatory one sentence "Sound byte" style media sensationalist bullshit though, isn't it?


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: Cagney]
    #23834459 - 11/15/16 04:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I expect very good things out of Trump. I know, I know go ahead and flame me but Trump is not a stupid man. He isn't a politician either, but he is a great business man. I think it's about time to give someone besides a crooked fucking politician a chance.




Good post. And I agree. Look I understand that Trump is highly flawed. He is. There's no way around that. And him being elected does come with a high, high level of risk.

But the one really great thing about him is that he doesn't represent the same old political machine anymore. He doesn't need to do this. The guy has an estimated net worth upwards of 3 and a half billion (billion with a B) dollars.  Like he said he could've spent the rest of his days living on his own fucking island and sailing his mega yacht around the world. He's doing this because he thinks he can put a dent in the disgustingly corrupt, worthless political establishment that has reigned over this country for fucking ever now. And that goes for both parties, mind you.

This thing is so crazy and outside the norm that it just might actually work.


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: koods]
    #23834466 - 11/15/16 04:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Your silver coins are never gonna be worth what you paid for them, so stop rooting for the downfall of America.





They're worth more already.

I'm just stating the inevitable.


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Re: What the FUCK did you elect America? [Re: vinsue] * 1
    #23834612 - 11/15/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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He's clearly a sociopath. He fits the diagnostic criteria beautifully.





so do you and hillary



So you agree with Koods that Trump fits the diagnostic criteria of a sociopath beautifully.

Thanks for clearing that up...  :cookiemonster:
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pretty sure that I cleared up that koods and hillary are no different than any other sociopath


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