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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #24171153 - 03/17/17 10:14 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Your comments come across as trollish, you have this "thing" with ferather and myco, I have seen it, and though you know they are just experimenting around you have the nastiest tone with them, no one is trying to take your place "teaching noobs" how to make coir tubs.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Marty Mycfly]
    #24171672 - 03/18/17 07:27 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

lol, I "have this thing" with everyone who spreads bad info, especially after I spent so much time right in this very thread explaining basic shrooming 101. It just usually doesnt take this amount of comments for someone to understand that yes grains have nutrition even tho they're colonized by myc..


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #24171676 - 03/18/17 07:33 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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lol, I "have this thing" with everyone who spreads bad info, especially after I spent so much time right in this very thread explaining basic shrooming 101. It just usually doesnt take this amount of comments for someone to understand that yes grains have nutrition even tho they're colonized by myc..



you made your point and people listened, its a novelty grow - now less of the trolling, no need for it.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #24171681 - 03/18/17 07:39 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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I almost want to say wood loving,




this is the stuff I'm replying to, I had my say on the OP months ago.




again, :whathesaid:
just because he does a novelty grow doesnt mean you can just spew any off the walls theory without being told back no dude you're dead wrong.

you guys are more than welcome to try explaining this shit in your own way to these guys, I've tried all other ways so now I'm trying this way..


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #24171684 - 03/18/17 07:43 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Its clearly not just the nutrients from the spawn anyway, if that was the case then the myc wouldnt expand through the sub as the spawn is already colonised. Also it wouldnt be fruiting so well -its clearly eating up the sub with the added nutes.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mattisfat]
    #24171691 - 03/18/17 07:50 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

yes it would its called leap off, its shrooming 101. just like myc crawls up tub walls. doesnt mean the myc draws nutes from the plastic tote.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mattisfat]
    #24171694 - 03/18/17 07:52 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Imagine adding starch and sugar free grain flour to coir (cellulose, hemicellulose, lignin, pectin).

Now imagine a similar process with soluble nutrients and paper pellets (cellulose, hemicellulose, lignin).

Would you say there is a huge difference between the two?


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Ferather]
    #24171703 - 03/18/17 07:59 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

for the 100th time, cubes does not feed on plant fertilizers :facepalm:


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #24171709 - 03/18/17 08:06 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

i dont think this is anything like myc climbing walls, its simply giving them the nutrients they need in another way. I think your wrong im sorry.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #24171711 - 03/18/17 08:08 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I will giggle when he makes paper spawn and then fruits using paper spawn in the same way, enough now.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mattisfat]
    #24171714 - 03/18/17 08:11 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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i dont think this is anything like myc climbing walls, its simply giving them the nutrients they need in another way. I think your wrong im sorry.




no dude, its called leap off. search it.
I really dont understand why you're making me repeat myself again, just go back and read the first page here to understand why cubes doesnt feed off paper.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #24171732 - 03/18/17 08:26 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

no its digesting the nutrients added with the plant food with the paper, even if it didnt have added nutrients im certain the cubes would still eat the paper but fruit poorly. RR got cubes to fruit from just woodchips as i quoted on an earlier post. come on man, i dont get why you cant have an open mind.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mattisfat]
    #24171734 - 03/18/17 08:28 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)


heres cubes on just woodchips, no added nutes


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mattisfat]
    #24171745 - 03/18/17 08:32 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Cubensis will digest many materials, but it won't fruit well without certain nutrients.
It will colonize materials, and fruit when fertilizer lands on top or near it.

This is why it's labelled "Dung loving", fertilizer = N-P-K + trace.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Ferather]
    #24171778 - 03/18/17 08:47 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Cubes fruit on paper and sawdust probably getting most of their fruiting potential from the agar puck/wedge (or spawn) used to inoculate the paper/wood

I've seen better looking and more numerous shrooms fruit from agar dishes and leftover grain in the bottom of quart jars.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mattisfat]
    #24171785 - 03/18/17 08:48 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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no its digesting the nutrients added with the plant food with the paper, even if it didnt have added nutrients im certain the cubes would still eat the paper but fruit poorly. RR got cubes to fruit from just woodchips as i quoted on an earlier post. come on man, i dont get why you cant have an open mind.




its like you trying to convince me that 1+1 = 3 and then complain I dont have an open mind..
you WANNA believe that the myc gets nutes from the paper, okay, but then you choose not to believe it can get nutes from the plastic tub
even tho its the exact same thing happening.. myc can grow right over almost anything as long as it has a good nute source to leap off from, like say grain kernels. those are propped with what cubes crave not some fertilizer meant for plants..


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #24171792 - 03/18/17 08:51 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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no its digesting the nutrients added with the plant food with the paper, even if it didnt have added nutrients im certain the cubes would still eat the paper but fruit poorly. RR got cubes to fruit from just woodchips as i quoted on an earlier post. come on man, i dont get why you cant have an open mind.




its like you trying to convince me that 1+1 = 3 and then complain I dont have an open mind..
you WANNA believe that the myc gets nutes from the paper, okay, but then you choose not to believe it can get nutes from the plastic tub
even tho its the exact same thing happening.. myc can grow right over almost anything as long as it has a good nute source to leap off from, like say grain kernels. those are propped with what cubes crave not some fertilizer meant for plants..



so tell me which nutrients cubes need to fruit well and what amount and lets compare to whats in the fertiliser


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mattisfat]
    #24171796 - 03/18/17 08:53 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I'm sure they get just a little bit of nutrition from paper and wood. worth growing them on paper or wood, no lol.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mattisfat]
    #24171802 - 03/18/17 08:55 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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no its digesting the nutrients added with the plant food with the paper, even if it didnt have added nutrients im certain the cubes would still eat the paper but fruit poorly. RR got cubes to fruit from just woodchips as i quoted on an earlier post. come on man, i dont get why you cant have an open mind.




its like you trying to convince me that 1+1 = 3 and then complain I dont have an open mind..
you WANNA believe that the myc gets nutes from the paper, okay, but then you choose not to believe it can get nutes from the plastic tub
even tho its the exact same thing happening.. myc can grow right over almost anything as long as it has a good nute source to leap off from, like say grain kernels. those are propped with what cubes crave not some fertilizer meant for plants..



so tell me which nutrients cubes need to fruit well and what amount and lets compare to whats in the fertiliser




CUBES DOESNT EAT FERTILIZERS!!!!

every chemical element on earth comes from the sun spewing out H and He atoms, so anything on earth comes from H and He, doesnt mean you or your mushies can survive on helium.. come on dude.
plenty of nitrogen in urine, does that make you wanna piss in your tubs?


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #24171809 - 03/18/17 08:58 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

so if we took the fertiliser out then it would fruit exactly the same ... right


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