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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Ferather]
    #23838735 - 11/16/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote from RR 'Cubes are dung and straw loving mushrooms, not wood decomposers. Many different types of mushroom evolved to decompose different substrates. Cubes evolved in the compost rich soil beneath cow manure.

I just posted this a day or two ago. It's cubes fruiting on woodchips. It's not their normal diet and they fruit poorly on it, but they do fruit. . poorly.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #23838761 - 11/16/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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So now his cubensis is a wood lover too. Funny stuff.




eeeh... no :lol:

havent you seen RRs hat/bra/bibel pics? that doesnt mean he made cubes a cotton/polyester lover :lol:
its basically feeding off the grain spawn. just like when myc grow up the tub walls, you dont have a plastic loving cube.



Yeah, my guess is the paper is mainly acting as a scaffolding/matrix for the mycelium to run across and that it is digesting and "surviving" on the age old and residual nutrients from the spawn itself.  I'm not expecting it to fruit but it would be interesting if it did...


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23838766 - 11/16/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

what do you mean "residual nutrients from the spawn"?
the spawn is where the nutes are man, our tubs are so propped full they sub's usually exhausted before its out of nutes from the spawn. thats why you get outdoor mushrooms from throwing out spent subs.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #23838808 - 11/16/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Out of curiosity spacechildo has anyone ever added soluble nutrients to grain and logged results?
Not arguing or anything, I am 100% just curious to see what happens as a result.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Ferather]
    #23838855 - 11/16/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

violet claimed it made her mushrooms more potent. but she didnt add it to grain in the sense I sense you're thinking, more of a soak in fert water.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #23838860 - 11/16/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmmm, ok thankyou spacechildo that is very helpful  :thumbup:


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #23838867 - 11/16/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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what do you mean "residual nutrients from the spawn"?
the spawn is where the nutes are man, our tubs are so propped full they sub's usually exhausted before its out of nutes from the spawn. thats why you get outdoor mushrooms from throwing out spent subs.



I meant just that...the only reason it's growing at all is due to the spawn nutrients...I noted it at the beginning of the thread.  When I said "residual", I meant those left over not already used up by the mycelium is all...


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23838886 - 11/16/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I might try something with an edible and enriched brown rice.
Nothing to do with actives, just a curious side test.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23838903 - 11/16/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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what do you mean "residual nutrients from the spawn"?
the spawn is where the nutes are man, our tubs are so propped full they sub's usually exhausted before its out of nutes from the spawn. thats why you get outdoor mushrooms from throwing out spent subs.



I meant just that...the only reason it's growing at all is due to the spawn nutrients...I noted it at the beginning of the thread.  When I said "residual", I meant those left over not already used up by the mycelium is all...




only a minimum of the nutrition in the grains should have been eaten during colonization.
I do agree with you the reason you see colonization (if you can call it that) of the paper,bible,hat,plastic tub walls etc is leap off from the grains tho. but its not residual or miniscule in any way.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Ferather]
    #23838907 - 11/16/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I might try something with an edible and enriched brown rice.
Nothing to do with actives, just a curious side test.




then you'll just prove that your specie grows off brown rice.
if you really wanna put this fert theory to the test use only ferts as your source of nutrition.
thats why I recommended agar, its just a gelling agent, so if you germinate spores on pda/mea etc and transfer to fert agar you'll see leap off but for each transfer your culture will go weaker and weaker.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #23838954 - 11/16/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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what do you mean "residual nutrients from the spawn"?
the spawn is where the nutes are man, our tubs are so propped full they sub's usually exhausted before its out of nutes from the spawn. thats why you get outdoor mushrooms from throwing out spent subs.



I meant just that...the only reason it's growing at all is due to the spawn nutrients...I noted it at the beginning of the thread.  When I said "residual", I meant those left over not already used up by the mycelium is all...




only a minimum of the nutrition in the grains should have been eaten during colonization.
I do agree with you the reason you see colonization (if you can call it that) of the paper,bible,hat,plastic tub walls etc is leap off from the grains tho. but its not residual or miniscule in any way.



Does "remaining" work for you?  Let's stay on topic and not split hairs on semantics.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23839067 - 11/16/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

IMO its not semantics, its clearing up a misunderstanding you seemed to have that most/a lot of nutes are lost during colonization
while in fact its the opposite :shrug:


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #23839090 - 11/16/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

There's no misunderstanding and nothing to clear up...you're simply doing your thing. Nowhere did I say anything that would suggest that.  Now quit jacking my thread.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
    #23839157 - 11/16/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

when you call the nutes in grain spawn "residual" you kinda do. at least IMO.
What a weird thing to get butthurt over... didn't mean to ruin your day tho...carry on.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #23839694 - 11/16/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ha!  I bet you ruin lots of shit; Fortunately, my day's not one of them.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23839786 - 11/16/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have no idea what that's suppose to mean, or why you'd think that or let alone say it :shrug:
Have I hurt your feelings in another post somehow? Did I maybe call some of your jars bacterial?

Or is this just your way of icing down soreness you somehow got from this thread? :butthurt:


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: spacechildo]
    #23840838 - 11/17/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23840881 - 11/17/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I once tired a monotub made for all cardboard spawn that i made 2 gallons of in different buckets. That all came form one brf cake. It was the worst waste of space and coir i ever used. Got 13 dry grams after three flushes. What id be interested in this wl tek is making super cakes in bags with paper instead of verm. Cubes will fruit they just hate it


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: tump]
    #23852266 - 11/20/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Shaken again a couple days ago. Curious to see if it'll consolidate.


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Re: Cubes on Bastardized WL Tek (paper) [Re: Mycolorado]
    #23852568 - 11/20/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, it definitely ran through it.


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