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    #23830048 - 11/13/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: ruaware]
    #23830076 - 11/13/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Try tripping with someone you love - THAT is fantastic.


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    #23830089 - 11/13/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: ruaware]
    #23830160 - 11/13/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think it feels more prominent when your tripping, and ime sober it goes away. tripping might bring it back and help you realize your love for someone but, if your not truly in love than it quickly fades.

also I'm starting to think that love is a modern term for something our species was never meant to have. I don't think we were meant to monagonistic(SP?)


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: ruaware] * 1
    #23830173 - 11/13/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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oh yeah, that would be great. The feelings you would feel would be incredible. But im wondering if that feeling is only possible when tripping or is it also possible sober to some degree




Love for an individual is a microcosmic allegory of the true, universal, cosmic love.

It's the same 'substance' but not the same experience since it's only a taste of the true whole.

Individual love is always conditional.  It is selfish because whilst the love is somewhat pure, it is interwoven with the ego mind which demands a form of return.

Cosmic, universal love is selfless, since it pertains to the 'one' consciousness, completely remote from ego.

An individual love which is closer to the true love, would be that which is felt for someone who is not a partner, but rather any and every random stranger who you lay your eyes upon with knosis that they are you.  With conditions eradicated, the love is more true.  This is a large element of Christ consciousness.


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23830180 - 11/13/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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oh yeah, that would be great. The feelings you would feel would be incredible. But im wondering if that feeling is only possible when tripping or is it also possible sober to some degree




Love for an individual is a microcosmic allegory of the true, universal, cosmic love.

It's the same 'substance' but not the same experience since it's only a taste of the true whole.

Individual love is always conditional.  It is selfish because whilst the love is somewhat pure, it is interwoven with the ego mind which demands a form of return.

Cosmic, universal love is the opposite, since it pertains to the 'one' consciousness, completely remote from ego.

An individual love which is closer to the true love, would be that which is felt for someone who is not a partner, but rather any and every random stranger who you lay your eyes upon with knosis that they are you.  This is a large element of Christ consciousness.




this love that you speak of is one the human species to date will never be able to accomplish


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Dildo Schwaggins]
    #23830188 - 11/13/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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oh yeah, that would be great. The feelings you would feel would be incredible. But im wondering if that feeling is only possible when tripping or is it also possible sober to some degree




Love for an individual is a microcosmic allegory of the true, universal, cosmic love.

It's the same 'substance' but not the same experience since it's only a taste of the true whole.

Individual love is always conditional.  It is selfish because whilst the love is somewhat pure, it is interwoven with the ego mind which demands a form of return.

Cosmic, universal love is the opposite, since it pertains to the 'one' consciousness, completely remote from ego.

An individual love which is closer to the true love, would be that which is felt for someone who is not a partner, but rather any and every random stranger who you lay your eyes upon with knosis that they are you.  This is a large element of Christ consciousness.




this love that you speak of is one the human species to date will never be able to accomplish




I mentioned three kinds technically, so I'm not sure what you imply.

Humans feel individual love, Christ love and cosmic love, through relations, repentance and psycadelics respectively.


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23830201 - 11/13/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

humans will never be able to love one another, of different race, religion or class. it has been bred into us since birth. it sucks but the world would be a much better place if we could all overcome this primitive, tribal way of thinking.


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Dildo Schwaggins]
    #23830212 - 11/13/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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humans will never be able to love one another, of different race, religion or class. it has been bred into us since birth. it sucks but the world would be a much better place if we could all overcome this primitive, tribal way of thinking.




Many people far and wide love people of different races, religions and class.

Those who don't are those who don't.


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Dildo Schwaggins]
    #23830548 - 11/13/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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humans will never be able to love one another, of different race, religion or class. it has been bred into us since birth. it sucks but the world would be a much better place if we could all overcome this primitive, tribal way of thinking.



YOU will never be able to love another, don't speak for everyone else in society,  since you are empirically incorrect.


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: AstralAndrew]
    #23830605 - 11/13/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I think mushrooms help you see to the very centre of people. And see the entire universe in them, in everything. That sense of love is powerful but as dildo said can fade.

That experience is possible sober, most people have one or two relationships with that deep knowing of another though i'm sure you can culture it with more people if you desire.


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Bernard] * 1
    #23830789 - 11/13/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Try tripping with someone you love - THAT is fantastic.



:solidnod:
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:doggystyle:


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #23831407 - 11/14/16 07:37 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Once your life becomes nothing but Love, this feeling isn't as profound when tripping - but yes the same Love is felt between humans, we all share the connection of energy. You say you haven't been in a relationship, but you definitely have loved and know what love feels like, just maybe not intimately.


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23831437 - 11/14/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

The feeling of total awe while tripping is similar to love for another person but not the same. There's a certain amount of crossover - a feeling that can't be put into words but it brings you to tears. Like watching your daughter walk down the isle, or learning that a loved one who has been in an accident will be just fine. Romantic love is a little different. I'd liken it more to opiate addiction. The feeling of perfection when the person is around, and withdrawal when they're not or when they're mad you.


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: ruaware]
    #23831784 - 11/14/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know maybe, it's hard to say because it's probably nowhere near as intense and it's not sudden I guess. I guess they are fairly different but that doesn't mean they aren't related in some ways.

Shrooms, cocaine and love all I think have a few things in common when it comes to that kind of "natural euphoria" they give you.
I think cocaine is actually more reminiscent of this classic "in love" feeling than anything. I think the brain on cocaine actually looks similar to a brain in love but probably paraphrasing here.


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23833200 - 11/14/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I think it feels more prominent when your tripping, and ime sober it goes away. tripping might bring it back and help you realize your love for someone but, if your not truly in love than it quickly fades.




I don't know about that.  I tripped hard with my wife and I couldn't stop thinking about her for a long time afterwards.  I'm still thinking about her way more than I did before...in a very loving and longing way.  I feel so in love with her like I'm 16 again.  IT IS AWESOME.

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humans will never be able to love one another, of different race, religion or class. it has been bred into us since birth. it sucks but the world would be a much better place if we could all overcome this primitive, tribal way of thinking




Bull.....I can tell you that personally I've loved a girl that was a different color than me.  I loved a man who was of a different religion that me.  I didn't love them in a sexual way, but I loved them just the same.


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Dildo Schwaggins]
    #23833228 - 11/14/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I think it feels more prominent when your tripping, and ime sober it goes away. tripping might bring it back and help you realize your love for someone but, if your not truly in love than it quickly fades.

also I'm starting to think that love is a modern term for something our species was never meant to have. I don't think we were meant to monagonistic(SP?)




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before sin was love

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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: ruaware]
    #23833240 - 11/14/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I've had some trips where i felt this amazing love. I was just feeling love. I've never been in a relationship, and I've never fallen in love with anyone. Sometimes when im tripping i just imagine what it would be like to be in love, and it feels pretty fantastic. I was just thinking, is the feeling of falling in love similar to the feeling of love when tripping? When everything feels kind of perfect, and you feel an intense passion and love for that person? Im thinking maybe, but im also thinking maybe you can only feel that when tripping.

I can imagine it being possible though, to feel that feeling when you're not tripping. I've seen some relationships where i can imagine they have that magic, the same magic that you have on LSD. But i've seen other relationships where i don't see that magic at all.




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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Broly]
    #23833496 - 11/14/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I never said i was the one who couldnt love the unconditionally but....

Radical islamic muslims. Yeah.....


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Dildo Schwaggins]
    #23833809 - 11/14/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I never said i was the one who couldnt love the unconditionally but....

Radical islamic muslims. Yeah.....




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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Broly]
    #23833845 - 11/14/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Scientists think that the three main neurotransmitters involved in love are adrenaline, dopamine, serotonin and endorphins.

Lsd affects dopamine, serotonin and adrenaline receptors

dopamine=sex, atraction, motivation
serotonin=affection, euphoria, empathy
adrenaline=anxiety, increased heart rate
endorphins= pleasure, well being



Edited by Gaspard (11/14/16 09:15 PM)


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: ruaware]
    #23834310 - 11/15/16 01:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It is for me 
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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23835915 - 11/15/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Conditional human love doesn't hold a candle to universal love. All human relationships are love/hate relationships in which love is simply an emotion which can be overturned by hate in a moment's notice. Unconditional love is our true nature and it is without opposite; it can be glimpsed in a relationship but only if one is thoroughly disengaged with his mind.


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23836184 - 11/15/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Conditional human love doesn't hold a candle to universal love. All human relationships are love/hate relationships in which love is simply an emotion which can be overturned by hate in a moment's notice. Unconditional love is our true nature and it is without opposite; it can be glimpsed in a relationship but only if one is thoroughly disengaged with his mind.




that's your personal rhetoric, but I disagree with it. Sue me.
I don't believe in universal love either, or that love is our true nature. Nothing I've experienced on psychedelics would lead me to that conclusion


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23849175 - 11/19/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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mt cleverest said:
Conditional human love doesn't hold a candle to universal love. All human relationships are love/hate relationships in which love is simply an emotion which can be overturned by hate in a moment's notice. Unconditional love is our true nature and it is without opposite; it can be glimpsed in a relationship but only if one is thoroughly disengaged with his mind.




Very much so. :thumbup:


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: ruaware]
    #23850169 - 11/19/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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ruaware said:
I've had some trips where i felt this amazing love. I was just feeling love. I've never been in a relationship, and I've never fallen in love with anyone. Sometimes when im tripping i just imagine what it would be like to be in love, and it feels pretty fantastic. I was just thinking, is the feeling of falling in love similar to the feeling of love when tripping? When everything feels kind of perfect, and you feel an intense passion and love for that person? Im thinking maybe, but im also thinking maybe you can only feel that when tripping.

I can imagine it being possible though, to feel that feeling when you're not tripping. I've seen some relationships where i can imagine they have that magic, the same magic that you have on LSD. But i've seen other relationships where i don't see that magic at all.




I have come into give a response. My ego checked in thinking, people would say stfu weirdo but, you beat me to the response. Like you, I have never been in love outside self love as ridiculous as that may sound. I have dated a fair bit and slept with a bunch of girls. I am pretty social but, I have never really seen myself with someone forever and I question the merit of monogamy which only seems to be pushed as people get older or as fertility becomes to decline. I have never loved a woman more than I love myself.

I have not gone as far deep as you have had with tripping and self exploring on drugs. My first trip, I saw bright colors, everything was funny, and I was just child-like staring in awe at a lighting storm just as rain came down. I wanted to snapchat the moment; not for the ego of "look at me." I just wanted to share the moment with everyone. I couldn't comprehend war or fighting, hate or anything dark in the world when everything was funny. I felt love. It just so happen that a girl saw my video and invited me over for sexy times but, I was in no place of mind or body to indulge.

More recent trips, I felt like I was sucked into a black hole of absolute shame, hopelessness, death, rejection, failure, reminiscing the feeling of loss or breakup, defeat, and lastly, what I could only describe as temporary psychosis. I felt like I was going through space and time. I was holding on for dear life. I lost motor function and speech at one point which was freaking me out. It was too much and too fast all at once. I was going in and out of consciousness. Thoughts fluttered and bounced around. I couldn't control my thoughts, my mind was a mess, and the hallucinations both auditory and visual. I was guilt tripping myself even at one point for taking too much.

I realize that each trip like any relationship is very much so individual. I cannot box it in or tie to being anything that what it is. Its an experience. Its a trip. I explore. I am not there in a place where I fully let go just yet. I guess what I am saying is that, I am learning about myself, about this world of psychedelics, exploring my consciousness, challenging my fears, and maybe even learning how to love.


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