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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Broly]
    #23833845 - 11/14/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Scientists think that the three main neurotransmitters involved in love are adrenaline, dopamine, serotonin and endorphins.

Lsd affects dopamine, serotonin and adrenaline receptors

dopamine=sex, atraction, motivation
serotonin=affection, euphoria, empathy
adrenaline=anxiety, increased heart rate
endorphins= pleasure, well being



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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: ruaware]
    #23834310 - 11/15/16 01:01 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

It is for me 
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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23835915 - 11/15/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Conditional human love doesn't hold a candle to universal love. All human relationships are love/hate relationships in which love is simply an emotion which can be overturned by hate in a moment's notice. Unconditional love is our true nature and it is without opposite; it can be glimpsed in a relationship but only if one is thoroughly disengaged with his mind.


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23836184 - 11/15/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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mt cleverest said:
Conditional human love doesn't hold a candle to universal love. All human relationships are love/hate relationships in which love is simply an emotion which can be overturned by hate in a moment's notice. Unconditional love is our true nature and it is without opposite; it can be glimpsed in a relationship but only if one is thoroughly disengaged with his mind.




that's your personal rhetoric, but I disagree with it. Sue me.
I don't believe in universal love either, or that love is our true nature. Nothing I've experienced on psychedelics would lead me to that conclusion


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #23849175 - 11/19/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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mt cleverest said:
Conditional human love doesn't hold a candle to universal love. All human relationships are love/hate relationships in which love is simply an emotion which can be overturned by hate in a moment's notice. Unconditional love is our true nature and it is without opposite; it can be glimpsed in a relationship but only if one is thoroughly disengaged with his mind.




Very much so. :thumbup:


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Re: Is the feeling of love when tripping the same as the feeling of love when you're in love? [Re: ruaware]
    #23850169 - 11/19/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I've had some trips where i felt this amazing love. I was just feeling love. I've never been in a relationship, and I've never fallen in love with anyone. Sometimes when im tripping i just imagine what it would be like to be in love, and it feels pretty fantastic. I was just thinking, is the feeling of falling in love similar to the feeling of love when tripping? When everything feels kind of perfect, and you feel an intense passion and love for that person? Im thinking maybe, but im also thinking maybe you can only feel that when tripping.

I can imagine it being possible though, to feel that feeling when you're not tripping. I've seen some relationships where i can imagine they have that magic, the same magic that you have on LSD. But i've seen other relationships where i don't see that magic at all.




I have come into give a response. My ego checked in thinking, people would say stfu weirdo but, you beat me to the response. Like you, I have never been in love outside self love as ridiculous as that may sound. I have dated a fair bit and slept with a bunch of girls. I am pretty social but, I have never really seen myself with someone forever and I question the merit of monogamy which only seems to be pushed as people get older or as fertility becomes to decline. I have never loved a woman more than I love myself.

I have not gone as far deep as you have had with tripping and self exploring on drugs. My first trip, I saw bright colors, everything was funny, and I was just child-like staring in awe at a lighting storm just as rain came down. I wanted to snapchat the moment; not for the ego of "look at me." I just wanted to share the moment with everyone. I couldn't comprehend war or fighting, hate or anything dark in the world when everything was funny. I felt love. It just so happen that a girl saw my video and invited me over for sexy times but, I was in no place of mind or body to indulge.

More recent trips, I felt like I was sucked into a black hole of absolute shame, hopelessness, death, rejection, failure, reminiscing the feeling of loss or breakup, defeat, and lastly, what I could only describe as temporary psychosis. I felt like I was going through space and time. I was holding on for dear life. I lost motor function and speech at one point which was freaking me out. It was too much and too fast all at once. I was going in and out of consciousness. Thoughts fluttered and bounced around. I couldn't control my thoughts, my mind was a mess, and the hallucinations both auditory and visual. I was guilt tripping myself even at one point for taking too much.

I realize that each trip like any relationship is very much so individual. I cannot box it in or tie to being anything that what it is. Its an experience. Its a trip. I explore. I am not there in a place where I fully let go just yet. I guess what I am saying is that, I am learning about myself, about this world of psychedelics, exploring my consciousness, challenging my fears, and maybe even learning how to love.


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The light of wisdom is driving away the darkness. Look at the ground. Now you can see your own shadow. If you are scared by the shadow that follows you, just remember, wherever shadows fall, light is always nearby.


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