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Offlinemantis83
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extreme anger
    #23829328 - 11/13/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hi,

I have extreme anger bubbling from deep inside of me, and it won't go away. Suppressing it like I have been all this time doesn't help it either - it just makes me more sick and full of more anger and despair. It doesn't go away, and is consuming me completely along with fear. I'm fucking sick of people's stupidity. I don't know what to do about this. Counseling/therapy doesn't help at all. And I don't think taking more drugs will help either. I can't live like this, I'm sick, iIm sick, I'm angry, and tired, so tired that I can't even sleep. I get one to two hours of sleep every night. This further compounds my problems and is making me mentally insane. I just don't know wtf can be done about this. Well thanks for listening.


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Re: extreme anger [Re: mantis83]
    #23829404 - 11/13/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

When you say you are sick, do you have a diagnosed illness, physical or mental? What is it that causes your anger to flare up most?


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Re: extreme anger [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23829459 - 11/13/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

what causes my anger to flare up most? MEAN PEOPLE FROM MY PAST. And also the fact that I can't sleep for more than 2 hours a night, everyday, for several years now. THIS MAKES MY ANGER FLARE UP. THIS, AND the fact that I have permanently ruined my soul and mind and body to the point where I can no longer even think, at all, only feel, and i only feel fear, hatred, and anger.


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Re: extreme anger [Re: mantis83]
    #23829493 - 11/13/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

"Monks, there are these four modes of practice. Which four? Intolerant practice, tolerant practice, self-controlled practice, and even practice. [1]

"And which is intolerant practice? There is the case where a certain individual doesn't tolerate cold, heat, hunger, & thirst; the touch of flies, mosquitoes, wind, sun, & reptiles; ill-spoken, unwelcome words; & bodily feelings that, when they arise, are painful, racking, sharp, piercing, disagreeable, displeasing, & menacing to life. This is called intolerant practice.

"And which is tolerant practice? There is the case where a certain individual tolerates cold, heat, hunger, & thirst; the touch of flies, mosquitoes, wind, sun, & reptiles; ill-spoken, unwelcome words; & bodily feelings that, when they arise, are painful, racking, sharp, piercing, disagreeable, displeasing, & menacing to life. This is called tolerant practice.

"And which is self-controlled practice? There is the case where a monk, on seeing a form with the eye, doesn't grasp at any theme or variations by which — if he were to dwell without restraint over the faculty of the eye — evil, unskillful qualities such as greed or distress might assail him. He practices with restraint. He guards the faculty of the eye. He achieves restraint with regard to the faculty of the eye.

"On hearing a sound with the ear...

"On smelling an aroma with the nose...

"On tasting a flavor with the tongue...

"On touching a tactile sensation with the body...

"On cognizing an idea with the intellect, he doesn't grasp at any theme or variations by which — if he were to dwell without restraint over the faculty of the intellect — evil, unskillful qualities such as greed or distress might assail him. He practices with restraint. He guards the faculty of the intellect. He achieves restraint with regard to the faculty of the intellect.

"This is called self-controlled practice.

"And which is even practice? There is the case where a monk doesn't acquiesce to an arisen thought of sensuality. He abandons it, destroys it, dispels it, knows it,[2] demolishes it, wipes it out of existence.

"He doesn't acquiesce to an arisen thought of ill will. He abandons it, dispels it, knows it, demolishes it, wipes it out of existence.

"He doesn't acquiesce to an arisen thought of harmfulness. He abandons it, dispels it, knows it, demolishes it, wipes it out of existence.

"He doesn't acquiesce to any arisen evil, unskillful qualities. He abandons them, dispels them, knows them, demolishes them, wipes them out of existence.

"This is called even practice.

"These, monks, are four modes of practice."


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Re: extreme anger [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23829500 - 11/13/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have heard that on one occasion the Blessed One was staying near Savatthi, in Jeta's Grove, Anathapindika's monastery. There he addressed the monks, "Monks!"

"Yes, lord," the monks responded.

The Blessed One said, "Monks, ignorance is the leader in the attainment of unskillful qualities, followed by lack of conscience & lack of concern. In an unknowledgeable person, immersed in ignorance, wrong view arises. In one of wrong view, wrong resolve arises. In one of wrong resolve, wrong speech... In one of wrong speech, wrong action... In one of wrong action, wrong livelihood... In one of wrong livelihood, wrong effort... In one of wrong effort, wrong mindfulness... In one of wrong mindfulness, wrong concentration arises.

"Clear knowing is the leader in the attainment of skillful qualities, followed by conscience & concern. In a knowledgeable person, immersed in clear knowing, right view arises. In one of right view, right resolve arises. In one of right resolve, right speech... In one of right speech, right action... In one of right action, right livelihood... In one of right livelihood, right effort... In one of right effort, right mindfulness... In one of right mindfulness, right concentration arises."


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Re: extreme anger [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #23829505 - 11/13/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

An Angry Person

"These seven things — pleasing to an enemy, bringing about an enemy's aim — come to a man or woman who is angry. Which seven?

"There is the case where an enemy wishes of an enemy, 'O, may this person be ugly!' Why is that? An enemy is not pleased with an enemy's good looks. Now, when a person is angry — overcome with anger, oppressed with anger — then regardless of the fact that he may be well-bathed, well-anointed, dressed in white clothes, his hair & beard neatly trimmed, he is ugly nevertheless, all because he is overcome with anger. This is the first thing pleasing to an enemy, bringing about an enemy's aim, that comes to a man or woman who is angry.

"Furthermore, an enemy wishes of an enemy, 'O, may this person sleep badly!' Why is that? An enemy is not pleased with an enemy's restful sleep. Now, when a person is angry — overcome with anger, oppressed with anger — then regardless of the fact that he sleeps on a bed spread with a white blanket, spread with a woolen coverlet, spread with a flower-embroidered bedspread, covered with a rug of deerskins, with a canopy overhead, or on a sofa with red cushions at either end, he sleeps badly nevertheless, all because he is overcome with anger. This is the second thing pleasing to an enemy, bringing about an enemy's aim, that comes to a man or woman who is angry.

"Furthermore, an enemy wishes of an enemy, 'O, may this person not profit!' Why is that? An enemy is not pleased with an enemy's profits. Now, when a person is angry — overcome with anger, oppressed with anger — then even when he suffers a loss, he thinks, 'I've gained a profit'; and even when he gains a profit, he thinks, 'I've suffered a loss.' When he has grabbed hold of these ideas that work in mutual opposition [to the truth], they lead to his long-term suffering & loss, all because he is overcome with anger. This is the third thing pleasing to an enemy, bringing about an enemy's aim, that comes to a man or woman who is angry.

"Furthermore, an enemy wishes of an enemy, 'O, may this person not have any wealth!' Why is that? An enemy is not pleased with an enemy's wealth. Now, when a person is angry — overcome with anger, oppressed with anger — then whatever wealth he has, earned through his efforts & enterprise, amassed through the strength of his arm, and piled up through the sweat of his brow — righteous wealth righteously gained — the king orders it sent to the royal treasury [in payment of fines levied for his behavior] all because he is overcome with anger. This is the fourth thing pleasing to an enemy, bringing about an enemy's aim, that comes to a man or woman who is angry.

"Furthermore, an enemy wishes of an enemy, 'O, may this person not have any reputation!' Why is that? An enemy is not pleased with an enemy's reputation. Now, when a person is angry — overcome with anger, oppressed with anger — whatever reputation he has gained from being heedful, it falls away, all because he is overcome with anger. This is the fifth thing pleasing to an enemy, bringing about an enemy's aim, that comes to a man or woman who is angry.

"Furthermore, an enemy wishes of an enemy, 'O, may this person not have any friends!' Why is that? An enemy is not pleased with an enemy's having friends. Now, when a person is angry — overcome with anger, oppressed with anger — his friends, companions, & relatives will avoid him from afar, all because he is overcome with anger. This is the sixth thing pleasing to an enemy, bringing about an enemy's aim, that comes to a man or woman who is angry.

"Furthermore, an enemy wishes of an enemy, 'O, may this person, on the break-up of the body, after death, reappear in the plane of deprivation, the bad bourn, the lower realms, in hell!' Why is that? An enemy is not pleased with an enemy's going to heaven. Now, when a person is angry — overcome with anger, oppressed with anger — he engages in misconduct with the body, misconduct with speech, misconduct with the mind. Having engaged in misconduct with the body, misconduct with speech, misconduct with the mind, then — on the break-up of the body, after death — he reappears in the plane of deprivation, the bad bourn, the lower realms, in hell, all because he was overcome with anger. This is the seventh thing pleasing to an enemy, bringing about an enemy's aim, that comes to a man or woman who is angry.

"These are the seven things — pleasing to an enemy, bringing about an enemy's aim — that come to a man or woman who is angry."


An angry person is ugly & sleeps poorly.
Gaining a profit, he turns it into a loss,
having done damage with word & deed.
A person overwhelmed with anger
destroys his wealth.
Maddened with anger,
he destroys his status.
Relatives, friends, & colleagues avoid him.
Anger brings loss.
Anger inflames the mind.
He doesn't realize
that his danger is born from within.
An angry person doesn't know his own benefit.
An angry person doesn't see the Dhamma.
A man conquered by anger is in a mass of darkness.
He takes pleasure in bad deeds as if they were good,
but later, when his anger is gone,
he suffers as if burned with fire.
He is spoiled, blotted out,
like fire enveloped in smoke.

When anger spreads,
when a man becomes angry,
he has no shame, no fear of evil,
is not respectful in speech.
For a person overcome with anger,
nothing gives light.

I'll list the deeds that bring remorse,
that are far from the teachings.
Listen!
An angry person kills his father,
kills his mother,
kills Brahmans
& people run-of-the-mill.
It's because of a mother's devotion
that one sees the world,
yet an angry run-of-the-mill person
can kill this giver of life.
Like oneself, all beings hold themselves most dear,
yet an angry person, deranged,
can kill himself in many ways:
with a sword, taking poison,
hanging himself by a rope in a mountain glen.

Doing these deeds
that kill beings and do violence to himself,
the angry person doesn't realize that he's ruined.

This snare of Mara, in the form of anger,
dwelling in the cave of the heart:
cut it out with self-control,
discernment, persistence, right view.
The wise man would cut out
each & every form of unskillfulness.
Train yourselves:
'May we not be blotted out.'

Free from anger & untroubled,
free from greed, without longing,
tamed, your anger abandoned,
free from fermentation,
you will be unbound.


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Re: extreme anger [Re: mantis83] * 1
    #23829518 - 11/13/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Nothing is permanent. That's just your ego telling you that, it will help to understand that alone. You will not always feel this way.

I think you need to start to analyse what these mean people from your past did to you if you want to start down the road to recovery. Who they were, what they did, when and why they did what they did, how it's affected you. You'll need to get down to a very nitty gritty level, and understand the cause and effect at a very granular level, and then start to forgive yourself for feeling this way as it was the actions of others that caused it. Their abusive actions towards you would also have been caused by abusive actions done to them at some point.

You just have to choose to break this cycle, or else that anger is gonna cause you to be mean to someone, including yourself, and will keep people who will help you and change you from coming into your life.

There's several tools out there that are very good for this kind of work:

1. Therapy
2. Meditation
3. Exercise
4. Psychedelic drugs (only if you have not had, or are predisposed to mental illness)
5. Pharmaceuitical drugs (only as a last resort)

I used to be a very angry person. I'm glad that I was - anger is very easily transformed in the energy you need to put in all the work that you need to change and heal. You can do it, but you need to give it everything you have.


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Re: extreme anger [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23829693 - 11/13/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey I responded to your PM.

Only rule out medication if you do not pose a threat to yourself or others.

Medication sucks, but so does prison/death. And think of the innocent lives your anger could impact.

I recently went on a solitudinal rampage, getting it all out of my system, like 140kmh through towns, 200-210 on the highways, you know, just going fucking psycho, I've got a court date in Feb 2017 for a threat to kill. It sort of helped but maybe I should have just stuck with the mushroom therapy I was doing. Low dose, focus on internals, focus on anger, allow the mushroom to purge it. No "trip" as such, dose too low.

I think, ya know, in retrospect, funny shit but I was fucking insane and way too high on life, so glad - SO GLAD - no one got hurt.

Just don't do it that way. I think it was more my TBI, my brain injury, making me risk-taking.

Now everyone in town knows me. lol. Not all are impressed . . .

I'm not impressed but it will be funny to reflect on. Sort of is already.

So uh,

medication if you're a threat to others / self.
mushrooms, low dose, if you want to purge the emotions. Mushrooms are SOO good for this. You have to focus on the anger, just don't act it out, just lie in bed, music, fetal position.

Have fun.


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Re: extreme anger [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #23829722 - 11/13/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

This phenomenon isn't uncommon.

The mind deals with it by creating revenge plays and the result is, you live in a whole of violence 24/7 in your own mind, anxiety ridden, even lying in bed with clenched fists.

If you exercise some really strict mental practices and shift out the bad thoughts when they enter in and replace it with a pleasant or sexual image, you can begin programming yourself.  Notice how when you get the odd times of respite when you aren't consumed in the bad thoughts, you are so much more at ease.  Focus on obtaining this ease. Make it the goal - the thing you need more of. Seek it like food.

There's naturally going to be some clear causes of why people acted the way they did, but at other times it's likely to be the simple fact that they too are living in the 24/7 hate state in their minds too, as a result of other things that have occurred in their life, or a lack of ability to find meaning in the chaos.

Psycadelics can help you to achieve a high self perspective in which you can don a vantage point and see things for what they really are.  Evil, in contrast to the light, becomes, false, apparent and weak.  You can literally feel sorrow for people who have wronged you. It almost becomes a quality of clairvoyancy. 

The most important thing is to escape the thought loops, since you can't inherit any kind of positive or insightful perspective whilst you are caught in its snare.

If you try and gear your mind into appreciating life as a form of test to refine yourself, the past people and events tend to take on a much more interesting perspective, rather than one just just eats away at you.  Sometimes you'll see that you're just opposing a version of yourself.

It's this very 'demon' which is ultimately battled with the act of forgiveness and doing so, heals the self.

Life will continue to serve up its range of challenging people. Just be sure when you meet them, you view them from the higher height - grace over hate.  Its usually their mourning and they too have work to do. :thumbup:


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Re: extreme anger [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23829778 - 11/13/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for the helpful advices.

my anger doesn't hurt anyone accept myself. I keep internalizing my anger so its just bubbling up inside of me and not going anywhere which is making me sicker, and causing complete insomnia, which in turn makes me crazy. I feel like there's no way out of this horrible loop at all. Like i'm damned forever


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Re: extreme anger [Re: Duncan Rowhl] * 1
    #23829803 - 11/13/16 04:50 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Loving the way this thread is coming together. This right here, this is what the Shroomery is all about to me. OP has come over to PS&P in a state of total frustration, in one of those pits of despair which we all fall into from time to time. And the compassion which pours out as we share our little clues and conclusions as to how to work our way out of this puzzling state that we are born and shaped into is just so beautiful to observe.

I rarely get such a powerfully emotional response to reading a thread, but I think empathising with OP, and then seeing others empathise too, empathising with them; it reminds me of the most important aspect of being human. Love. Love for your fellow man, stranger and friend alike. Love that makes us want to reach about and help another heal their pain and grow. Love for ourselves, knowing the pits we've fallen into and climbed out of, knowing that our challenges have made us stronger, we appreciate this gift of life all the more for the fact we've prevailed in the face of desolation.

Fucking stirs my soul to see humans acting this way.


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Re: extreme anger [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23829885 - 11/13/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

yes, thank you for your thoughtful replies. It is a great place indeed. There is too much stupidity in some of the other sub-forums but this one in particular seems to have good vibes.

I would love to be able to heal fully physically, mentally, and spiritually but don't know how to go about it at all.

universal oneness and enlightenment seems like fiction to me nowadays, at least for me. Because I don't see myself ever becoming purified, liberated, and enlightened, not in this life or in the hereafter. I have a very real fear of going to hell and I don't want that to happen.


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Re: extreme anger [Re: mantis83] * 1
    #23829919 - 11/13/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

mantis83 said:
I feel like there's no way out of this horrible loop at all. Like i'm damned forever



Perhaps it would be wise to focus on this point first off mantis. Can you spot the theme in all the responses? We've all mentioned how one moves from a lower state to a higher state. When I've been at the lowest points of my life, it feels so overwhelming that I feel stuck. Trapped. No move in any direction seems worthy of pursuit, other than obliterating oneself in drink, drugs, sex, suicide - whatever you tend to reach for to make it all go away.

But when you start to move again, you make another start at the climb up, which hurts at first and gets easier the more persistent we become. We grow man. That's what humans do. Plenty resist it IMO because it's a painful process, but they're still doing it whether they like it or not. Whether towards our higher self or lower self. You can't resist it either, and it sounds like you've got to that point of anger, which for me, is the charge I need to really fucking push through this. I get so fucked off with being stuck in that dark place that I give it all I have.

Sometimes I fall back into despair after some time, but none it ever lasts, and I always get to a spot when I can rest and relax and feel free again. It's always gonna change. It's impermanent. You're not even the same person one minute to the next, if you observe your thoughts they change constantly. Your attention can shift up to 10 times a second. You're, asking questions, reveiving responses which may well bring about a realisation which creates a new you. It's happened to me here many tiemes.

Please remember Impermanence. I got it cut into my arm, so that I would always be reminded of it, cause it's so often easy to forget about, and feel the way you do.



Quote:

mantis83 said:
Because I don't see myself ever becoming purified, liberated, and enlightened, not in this life or in the hereafter.



You and me both brother. I have no fucking idea what lies ahead. Everything case change at the drop of a hat. But I know what I'm gonna aim for, and the closer I get the more the path comes clear. I don't know where that path is taking me, but I feel every step forwards is reward in itself. Every step backwards is just a reminder that going forwards serves me better. I'm not striving to reach a goal, I'm striving because doing so is my goal. I don't know if I can become 'enlightened' cause I don't know what it is. I don't see a hereafter, cause I don't know that there is one.

Just keep going. Keep practicing. Keep growing.


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--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: extreme anger [Re: mantis83] * 1
    #23829928 - 11/13/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

A Buddha ( Gotama of the Sakya Clan ): "This oh Monks is the path which leads to the cessation of suffering."

1.  Right View: our actions have consequences; death is not the end, and our actions and beliefs have also consequences after death; the Buddha followed and taught a successful path out of this world and the other world (heaven and underworld/hell, 6 realms) Later on, right view came to explicitly include karma and rebirth, and the importance of the Four Noble Truths, when "insight" became central to Buddhist soteriology.[28][29]

2.  Right Resolve: the giving up unskillful home life and adopting the life of a spiritual practitioner in order to follow the path; this concept, aims at peaceful renunciation, into an environment of non-sensuality, non-ill-will (to loving kindness), away from cruelty (to compassion).[30] Such an environment aids contemplation of impermanence, suffering, and non-Self.[30]

3.  Right Speech: no lying, no rude speech, no telling one person what another says about him, speaking that which leads to salvation;[23]

4.  Right Conduct: no killing or injuring, no taking what is not given, no sexual acts.[23]

5.  Right Livelihood: beg to feed, only possessing what is essential to sustain life;[23]

6.  Right Effort: guard against sensual thoughts; this concept, aims at preventing unwholesome states that disrupt meditation.[30]

7.  Right Mindfulness: never be absent minded, being conscious of what one is doing; this, encourages the mindfulness about impermanence of body, feeling and mind, as well as to experience the five aggregates (skandhas), the five hindrances, the four True Realities and seven factors of awakening.[30]

8.  Right Concentration: practicing four stages of meditation (dhyāna) culminating into unification of the mind


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Re: extreme anger [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23830053 - 11/13/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That's pretty intense jokeshop! (image)


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Re: extreme anger [Re: mantis83]
    #23830555 - 11/13/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Smoke weed erryday.


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Re: extreme anger [Re: mantis83]
    #23830568 - 11/13/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

mantis83 said:
what causes my anger to flare up most? MEAN PEOPLE FROM MY PAST. And also the fact that I can't sleep for more than 2 hours a night, everyday, for several years now. THIS MAKES MY ANGER FLARE UP. THIS, AND the fact that I have permanently ruined my soul and mind and body to the point where I can no longer even think, at all, only feel, and i only feel fear, hatred, and anger.




Smooth out your circadian rhythm with prescribed melatonin.


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Re: extreme anger [Re: mantis83] * 1
    #23831393 - 11/14/16 07:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

mantis83 said:
thanks for the helpful advices.

my anger doesn't hurt anyone accept myself. I keep internalizing my anger so its just bubbling up inside of me and not going anywhere which is making me sicker, and causing complete insomnia, which in turn makes me crazy. I feel like there's no way out of this horrible loop at all. Like i'm damned forever




You need a multi-pronged approach. First, burn off the excess energy through physical activity. For me it is racquetball because I get to safely smash something as hard as possible, but any form of exercise will do. Chop wood until you are exhausted; go for a ten mile run; hit a heavy punching bag for an hour or two.

This will temporarily release the excess charge.

Next you are going to have to reprogram your brain. This will be more difficult, but will provide greater relief. Creating distance between "you" and your thoughts through meditation is one approach. Another is to counter every negative thought with a positive one.

To alleviate a feeling of helplessness you need to get involved in a group or project where you can make a positive contribution.

Take action today!


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Re: extreme anger [Re: mantis83]
    #23831644 - 11/14/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

it is all energy. My encouragement would be this: to allow complete freedom of inner expression. So for example, sauy you want to fight others who have hurt you, in terrible ways. Allow yourself to imagine it, BUT ALSO include the consequences of it. Don'tidealize it. See what would happen if you did, the hiding, the getting caught, and all the shit of that. Include all into your imagination

Also, try and encourage sense of humour. Don't be TOTALLY 'mr angry' all the time. Allow yourself to see the funny side of things. tragedy and comedy can be very close

The insomnia says to me that your trying to resist thoughts? Instead allow all manner of thought. Give them freedom of expression in your mind.

Experiment with this


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    #23832850 - 11/14/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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mantis83 said:
Hi,

I have extreme anger bubbling from deep inside of me, and it won't go away. Suppressing it like I have been all this time doesn't help it either - it just makes me more sick and full of more anger and despair. It doesn't go away, and is consuming me completely along with fear. I'm fucking sick of people's stupidity. I don't know what to do about this. Counseling/therapy doesn't help at all. And I don't think taking more drugs will help either. I can't live like this, I'm sick, iIm sick, I'm angry, and tired, so tired that I can't even sleep. I get one to two hours of sleep every night. This further compounds my problems and is making me mentally insane. I just don't know wtf can be done about this. Well thanks for listening.




Find peace within. "Fear is only as real as your mind allows it to be." I went nearly 4 days without sleep... my therapist is amazed I recovered so quickly and have zero side effects.

Tell me... do you feel your body temperature rise when you get angry? I get so hot people have to take a step back.

Breathe. Seriously dude, fucking breathe. Think of a child's smiling face. Anything that makes you truly happy.

In through your nose, out through your mouth... SLOWLY. You will probably feel the stress level go down immediately. You might even laugh and lose count. That's okay keep fucking doing it. Seriously, this will help you so much you have no idea how helpful it is. Not patronizing, it is truly, TRULY the best way to relieve that kind of stress. Clear your mind. Let your thoughts flow. Focus on the breathing. In an out, 1, in and out, 2, in and out 3. Don't get caught up in chakras and other stuff like that it will only make you more frustrated.

Say this: "I forgive them, they know not what they do."

Don't call people stupid. We're all stupid.


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