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supersnook12
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Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results!
#23829256 - 11/13/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I was advised to throw away my tub in this thread
Decided to fruit anyway as I am now out of spores... and didn't want to wait a week just to start over again.
Total Dry yield: 1.53 Oz!
This is the tub on the day I started fruiting

A few days later the tub looked like this...

So I salted the shit out of it with table salt because I saw someone say you can do that.

A couple days later I have large fruits



So if you have a contamination it may be worth it to keep it. Going to spray the room with bleach until I think it's safe.
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: supersnook12] 2
#23829263 - 11/13/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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spore syringe $10 having a harder time using your own spores because you obtained them from a contaminated tub : priceless. some things stubbornness can't buy but for every time the lid was taken off there's green mold spores dispersed everywhere
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: supersnook12]
#23829274 - 11/13/16 01:39 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It not recomended to toss out because you won't get fruits, it's recommended to toss because of the amount of mold spores that you'll be multiplying in your grow area. 1 time won't be that bad but still not advised. I would not continue this practice because the more you do the more you jeapordize future grows...
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: PinPornProducer]
#23829296 - 11/13/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You only salt if the pinset is in and they only need a few days to finish. As it is you need to salt well past the immediate area as the trich will move past the salt under the surface and resurface again. As you saw firsthand. Don't do that again. For a handful of trichy fruits it's not worth it.
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: Pastywhyte] 1
#23829322 - 11/13/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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trich makes two kinds of spores. conidia and chlamydospores. as well as spreading by fragmentation. it's a parasite of cubensis

and does this to cubensis mycelium.
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supersnook12
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: bodhisatta]
#23829330 - 11/13/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info.
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: supersnook12]
#23829469 - 11/13/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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You know, to me, it looks like the trichoderma got in sometime after you placed it into fruiting. Salt will slow down a mold or kill it if it is small, but trich is strong against a lot of stuff. Appears the mycelium resisted the growth of the trich till the mushrooms were completely flushed! Pretty lucky in my opinion
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: supersnook12]
#23829470 - 11/13/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cool you got shrooms but I don't know if a ounce of shrooms is worth spreading all the trich spores everywhere lol. You might regret that one later.
Since you were spreading spores around anyway you should have got a print or two to clean up for later.
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: SporeDaddy] 1
#23830216 - 11/13/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
SporeDaddy said: You know, to me, it looks like the trichoderma got in sometime after you placed it into fruiting. Salt will slow down a mold or kill it if it is small, but trich is strong against a lot of stuff. Appears the mycelium resisted the growth of the trich till the mushrooms were completely flushed! Pretty lucky in my opinion
That much trich it was definitely in there before fruiting it was in the spawn
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: bodhisatta]
#23830468 - 11/13/16 08:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If it was in the spawn you would have had trich and nothing else. If you would clearly look at his first picture just before fruiting that shows no sign of infection (which would at its current growth of other mycelium) and he had his monotub in fruiting for a couple days till a bit of trich shows to the eye which takes like 24 hours for enough to grow to be visible especially in his fruiting conditions.
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: SporeDaddy] 2
#23830504 - 11/13/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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not again...
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: SporeDaddy] 1
#23830505 - 11/13/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
SporeDaddy said: If it was in the spawn you would have had trich and nothing else.
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23830524 - 11/13/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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So you guys are saying trich. would not take over rye spawn while mycelium is also colonizing?
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: SporeDaddy]
#23830533 - 11/13/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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They will colonize together. Of course the trich gets the upper hand but to assume the cubes won't try to colonize what they can and fruit in desperation is just shortsighted.
Maybe if you G2G trich ridden grain for a few P values it would end up being all trich. But I find trich is often just the end result of bacterial spawn anyways.
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23830550 - 11/13/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay gotcha. I did mean to make it seem like I was saying trich. would be literally the only thing, of course Cube mycelium will continue to grow. Since trich. is parasitic to cubensis should it not easily grow over/through the other mycelium???
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: SporeDaddy]
#23830557 - 11/13/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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It does but cubes still put up a fight. Few things in this hobby are all or nothing.
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: supersnook12]
#23830896 - 11/13/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
supersnook12 said: So if you have a contamination it may be worth it to keep it. Going to spray the room with bleach until I think it's safe.
No offense, and I respect your decision to make whatever choices you deem correct for yourself, but that's a shitty flush. I would say overall this grow is a lot more to the "failure" side of the spectrum than it is to the "success" side.
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Re: Monotub infected, fruited anyway, over an ounce and interesting results! [Re: freespeech]
#23831232 - 11/14/16 05:47 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Id say There was trich before. Ive had similar Fc andor spawn problems I tried using an alcohol soaked knife once out of curiousity. Its hard to say if it specifically did anything but in my head i feel like it lasted almost two weeks longer had i done nothing
Edited by natzyshroomer (11/14/16 05:49 AM)
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